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ParisKat Feb 23, 2011 12:30 PM

I am going to be in Paris for 7 nights at the end of March. Three of those nights will be spent in the 15th at the hotel that my husband's company requires that he stay. The other four nights are at the Relais St. Germain. We will have two dinners while we are in the 15th, so I was thinking of La Beurre Noissette and L'Os a Moelle. When I told my husband that Zagat's has the cost at 44E, he said that his European colleagues will balk at those prices. So- is Zagat's correct that both are about 44E? Also, what are some opinions about these two restaurants? Are there others that you would recommend? Any that are good, but less expensive in the 15th, or close by? I thought of L'Avant Gout as well. We've been to Les Symples de l'Os a Moelle, and his colleagues were OK with that. Any guidance is much appreciated. This is not an area of town that I am very familiar with.

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  1. fanoffrance RE: ParisKat Feb 23, 2011 01:54 PM

    http://www.bistrot-jadis.com/menu.php
    http://parisbymouth.com/jadis/
    34 Euros for three courses at Jadis in the 15th. I've never been there, but it gets good recommendations on this board now and then, so I've planned a visit there for April.

    I was surprised to hear that business travelers would consider 44E to be expensive, as most Paris tourists would call that a reasonably-priced meal, even a bargain if it's really good.

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      PhilD RE: fanoffrance Feb 24, 2011 01:46 PM

      If they are like my business colleagues in Europe they may well have fairly tight company limits on what they can spend on food and where they can stay. Remember they are on business not on holiday thus the meal rates are set low (subsistence) rather than allowing them to eat in good/fun places (enjoyment),

      The rates may also be governed by the tax free limits set by tax authorities. In Paris you will see a lot of the set lunches come in a similar price-points, in my day it was €7 for a sandwich based lunch and €14 for a sit down meal, this is because luncheon vouchers (that many get) come in €7 units.

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        mangeur RE: PhilD Feb 24, 2011 04:56 PM

        I traveled for years with subsistence food allowance, the logic being that you would spend a certain amount for food were you at home, ergo the allowance was to help offset the excess expense for restaurant food, in my case in uber-expensive NYC. One really can't expect a travel allowance to cover true expenses.

    2. PBSF RE: ParisKat Feb 23, 2011 02:19 PM

      Le Beurre Noisette is excellent and their prix-fixe is 34E when I was there last October. I haven't been to L'Os a Moelle in many years but I think the cost of their prix fixe should be about the same. From what I remember, the food is more straight forward without the interesting spices and not as good. L'Avant Gout is one of our favorite standbys but it is in the 13e, near Pl Italie. The cooking and price is similar to Le Beurre Noisette. The tables are very tightly packed but not quite as intimate as CLJ.
      The Zagat cost of 44E might include a shared inexpensive wine or who knows.

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        ParisKat RE: ParisKat Feb 23, 2011 04:20 PM

        The Zagat price includes one glass of wine and tip. I agree that 44E is not an unreasonable price, but my husband's colleagues are unusually frugal. To give you an example, he is in Copenhagen tonight, and rather than going to a really good Danish restaurant, he had to go to a Canadian one where he had a Cobb salad. Lost opportunity in my opinion.

        1. mangeur RE: ParisKat Feb 23, 2011 04:28 PM

          Most of the bistrot level restaurants discussed on this board offer a dinner menu (3 courses) in the mid-30€ range. As already posted, very moderate wine and a coffee will bring this into the mid-40€ range. This is currently correct for this level dinner.

          Might your husband's associates suggest some restaurants that meet their cost levels?

          If you are willing to travel as far as L'Avant Gout, Les Papilles might make everyone happy. In the low 30€s, this 4 course meal is delicious and generous beyond anyone's expectation. Share a bottle of wine.
          http://www.lespapillesparis.fr/

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            ParisKat RE: mangeur Feb 23, 2011 05:08 PM

            Oh Mangeur, if only his colleagues had their own suggestions. Mostly, they stand around and shuffle, and then go to the nearest not too good restaurant. I get to Paris only once every year or two, so I like to maximize my time there. Why would I want to have a so-so meal? I appreciate the suggestion of LesPapilles. I've heard good things about it.

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              Laidback RE: ParisKat Feb 25, 2011 05:39 AM

              From my personal experience, the most inexpensive restaurant serving decent French cuisine in the 15th is Au Gout du Jour on rue Beaugrenelle. Also check out La Veraison on Rue Croix Nivert and my favorite in the 15th, Grand Pan on Rue Rosenwald. If you liked l'Os à Moelle, then try his cheaper table d'hote just across the street.

          2. ChefJune RE: ParisKat Feb 24, 2011 06:20 AM

            When I was in school in France, our classes were at LCB Paris, and we had four dinners at a bistro called Le Belisaire (2, rue Marmontel, Paris, France
            01-48-28-62-24). I jsut looked it up and found that the evening menu is 28 Euros. I really liked the food, and try to get back there every time I'm in Paris. The folks who run it are lovely, and the service is top notch. On one visit, the chef prepared a fish dish a la Hachis Parmentiere. If you like mashed potatoes.... ;)

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              Oakglen RE: ChefJune Feb 24, 2011 07:01 AM

              Belisaire is one of the Michelin Bib Gourmand bistros, but they say dinner would be in the low 30's; So the tab would be in the 40's with wine. Still a very good deal. The lunch prix-fixe at 22 Euros is a great bargain. Another addition to our "Todo" list.

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