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metalrat Feb 22, 2011 09:28 PM

Anybody see the 2011 James Beard Award Mid Atlantic Semi Finalist list?

  1. YAYME Feb 25, 2011 04:01 AM

    I know my Uncle's resturant Star Noodle is among them, I'm so proud of him.

    1. equal_Mark Feb 23, 2011 06:42 AM

      Given the overall reviews of Copper Canyon here on CH, makes me wonder what criteria the JB Awards judges nominees on.

      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/716620

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      1. re: equal_Mark
        NJDolfan Feb 23, 2011 02:38 PM

        That is why they are critics, because the are knowledgeable in their profession

        1. re: NJDolfan
          bgut1 Feb 23, 2011 02:50 PM

          NJDolfan - Just because they are critics doesn't mean they are more knowledgeable then you or me when it comes to food. I think you will find that many of them had very little if any formal food/restaurant training before becoming a critic (e.g. Sam Sifton, Frank Bruni, etc.). The difference is that they purportedly write better than you and me and eat out a lot. Other than that, who's to say that their "taste" is better than ours? As for Copper Canyon, having dined there a number of times, I too was suprised by the nomination.

          1. re: bgut1
            MGZ Feb 24, 2011 02:57 AM

            Those who can cook - those who can't critique.

            1. re: bgut1
              NJDolfan Mar 2, 2011 02:41 PM

              Bgut
              We have many mutual friend, who all speak highly of you, but the difference between the critics and some people on this board is that. The critics don’t try to beat down the restaurant like some people do here. People not in the business don’t know or see what it takes to own and run your own restaurant. I don’t feel the need to try and hurt someone. There are other ways to say you didn’t like the food at a particular place them some people are doing.

              1. re: NJDolfan
                equal_Mark Mar 2, 2011 03:35 PM

                I guess you don't follow restaurant critics all that much. Locally I recall Asbury Park Press's Andrea Clurfield taking obvious pleasure in shredding every aspect of any establishments she did not deem "worthy," then when chosen as editor of the NJ Zagat guide removing the entries to those same restaurants, regardless of their actual popularity. Then there is the infamous Tony Bourdain / Alan Richman feud involving Les Halle's in NYC. I've seen critics "beat down' establishments they don't like with a fervor and gusto that is only enhanced by their knowledge of how the business works.

                1. re: equal_Mark
                  NJDolfan Mar 3, 2011 04:37 PM

                  AC is exactly what I am talking about. No reason to try and hurt someone like that.

                  1. re: NJDolfan
                    equal_Mark Mar 3, 2011 06:03 PM

                    I guess I'm glad that you agree that critics do in fact try to beat down restaurants like some people do here. I guess I misunderstood your comment. !?!

            2. re: NJDolfan
              equal_Mark Feb 23, 2011 02:58 PM

              I'm sure that's what they'd like you to believe... ;-)

              1. re: NJDolfan
                mattstolz Feb 24, 2011 04:08 AM

                IMO theyre not very good critics if their opinions dont agree with the majority of the people who end up eating at a resto. what good does it do a resto if the critic loves it but every other people who eats there says its awful?

            3. MGZ Feb 23, 2011 06:12 AM

              BEST CHEF: MID-ATLANTIC
              Andrew Araneo, Drew's Bayshore Bistro, Keyport, NJ
              Cathal Armstrong, Restaurant Eve, Alexandria, VA
              Pierre Calmels, Bibou, Philadelphia
              Jay Caputo, Espuma, Rehoboth Beach, DE
              Bertrand Chemel, 2941 Restaurant, Falls Church, VA
              Melissa Close-Hart, Palladio at Barboursville Vineyards, Barboursville, VA
              Tony Conte, The Oval Room, Washington, D.C.
              David Gilberg, KOO ZEE DOO, Philadelphia
              Michael Krikorian, The Copper Canyon Restaurant, Atlantic Highlands, NJ
              Johnny Monis, Komi, Washington, D.C.
              Peter Pastan, Obelisk, Washington, D.C.
              Maricel Presilla, Cucharamama, Hoboken, NJ
              Dave Racicot, Notion, Oakmont, PA
              Dale Reitzer, Acacia, Richmond, VA
              Chip Roman, Blackfish, Conshohocken, PA
              Adán Saavedra, Paloma, Philadelphia
              John B. Shields, Town House, Chilhowie, VA
              Michael Solomonov, Zahav, Philadelphia
              Vikram Sunderam, Rasika, Washington, D.C.
              Cindy Wolf, Charleston, Baltimore

              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02...

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