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Where to go? Taking adventurous teenage grandson to BILTMORE in early March: 2 breakfasts, 2 lunches, 2 dinners.

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We've traveled to Phoenix many times for meetings and are always stuck eating at our resort hotel, which is The Biltmore this March.

THIS time we're determined to find some interesting food for us and our teenage grandson. Happily he is an adventurous eater. [Chowhound recs for Victoria, B.C. last winter were spot on.]

Hate to drive, will walk up to a mile, and will accept Biltmore Resort restaurants only if you Chowhounds okay them.

Breakfast can be in our room if there's a Whole Foods or the like nearby.

Many thanks!

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  1. Since the Biltmore is not exactly off of 24th street you have a bit of a walk to just get off the resort. It is 1.6 miles to get from the main building of the Biltmore to the Biltmore shopping center which has a wide number of resturants - ranging from upscale chain like Cheesecake and CPK to places that are somewhat better (but nothing like they were when Roxsand was there) like Zinburger or Christopher's Crush
    http://www.shopbiltmore.com/Dining/Di...

    Across the street from the Biltmore at the Esplande there are some casual places and the AMC movie theater.

    There is also the Town & Country shopping center which is about 2 miles (20th and Camelback) http://www.townandcountryshops.com/di... and a Safeway at 32nd Street and Camelback (2.2 miles). In the center at 32nd St and Camelback there is also Delux - which is a good upscale burger place http://www.deluxburger.com/ and Gelato Spot http://www.gelatospot.com/ if you want dessert. On the other corner is Tarbell's http://tarbells.com/menu%20&%20wi...

    Just note that all of these are more than a mile away. So if you do decide you want to/need to drive there are other options slightly further afield.

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    Delux
    3146 E Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

    32nd Cafe
    2822 N 32nd St Ste 1, Phoenix, AZ 85008

    Gelato Spot
    4010 E Greenway Rd Ste 2, Phoenix, AZ 85032

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    1. re: PaqpIn

      Couple more things - there is the Duck and Decanter - which is a good deli and fun shopping place at 16th and Camelback
      http://www.duckanddecanter.com/

      also in the Biltmore and the Esplanade there is a Paradise Bakery and an Au Bon Pain - just if you wanted to grab some things for breakfast.

      1. re: PaqpIn

        Do you mean Au Petit Four? http://www.aupetitfour.com

    2. Frank and Albert's located on property is a great option if you decide to stay on the grounds. For breakfast I like eating at the Adobe Restaurant across the canal inside the country club. It's half the price of Frank and Alberts and just as good! If you're willing to walk a mile just take the complimentary shuttle from the Biltmore Resort to the Biltmore Fashion Park. From here you can walk a mile south to Noca, Delux, Tarbell, Tomaso's or a mile north to Parlor Pizzeria and Town and Country Center. If you're here on a wednesday there is a great farmers market at T & C Center. Are these restaurants "interesting"? It's all relative but if you can make a stop at The Frybread House that would be an Arizona experience.

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      Delux
      3146 E Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

      Noca
      3118 E. Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

      Biltmore Fashion Park
      2502 E Camelback Rd # 216, Phoenix, AZ

      The Parlor Pizzeria
      1916 E Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

      Frybread House
      4140 N 7th Ave, Phoenix, AZ 85013

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      1. re: Da Beebz

        east and west, not north and south on Delux, Parlor etc, also try the corner of 16th st and Bethany Home, about 2.5 miles away, for The Vig, Dick's Hideaway, Garage, and Luci's Market. lot's of good options there. you will have to drive or take cabs from the Biltmore things are pretty spread out in Phoenix. the hotel shuttle will take you to close locations though and then you just take a $5 cab ride back to the resort. The Adobe Grill is a great suggestion for a quick lunch.

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        Delux
        3146 E Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

        Dick's Hideaway
        6008 N 16th St, Phoenix, AZ 85016

        1. re: Da Beebz

          noca, delux, tarbells, and tomasso's are east (not north) of the biltmore fashion mall at 32nd and camelback.

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          32nd Cafe
          2822 N 32nd St Ste 1, Phoenix, AZ 85008

          1. re: Da Beebz

            I have not yet done Frank and Alberts, but do hear good reports.

            Wright's, the upper-end of the dining at the AZ Biltmore has always done well by us, both for dinner and for brunch.

            Not within walking distance, but not that many miles away, NOCA is a great, fun, exciting dining experience for dinner.

            Enjoy,

            Hunt

            1. re: Bill Hunt

              The Arizona Canal makes a pretty good shortcut between the Biltmore and Noca. It's about a mile and a quarter between the two if you go that way.

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              Noca
              3118 E. Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

              1. re: JK Grence the Cosmic Jester

                i think its shorter to walk over the bridge across the canal in front of the biltmore and turn left on to biltmore estates drive then about 1/2 mile down turn left on colter and then right on 32nd Street to the strip mall at 32nd and camelback that houses Noca.

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                Noca
                3118 E. Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

                1. re: biga290

                  Biga290, I like your idea more for the virtues of having a better lit path at night, and some jaw-dropping homes to gawk at on the stroll. Judging by looking at the two paths on Google Maps, it's going to be about the same distance-wise.

                  I'll bet if you chat with the concierge at the Biltmore, they'll know THE perfect route to take.

                  Oh, breakfast and groceries: There aren't many grocery stores in the immediate vicinity. Closest good one is Trader Joe's on 20th Street and Camelback. I can strongly recommend French breakfast (and pastries!) down at Au Petit Four in the Esplanade shopping center on 24th Street and Camelback.

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                  Trader Joe's
                  4821 N 20th St, Phoenix, AZ 85016

                  Noca
                  3118 E. Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

                  1. re: JK Grence the Cosmic Jester

                    theres a Safeway in the same center with NOCA

                    1. re: kmarg

                      Generally, I prefer Safeway, but, the Fry's at 4724 N 20th St is very competitive.

                      1. re: johnseberg

                        and the AJ's at 44th and Camelback has a full bakery and lots of higher end deli fare

            2. re: Da Beebz

              frank and alberts imho has really gone downhill. used to be my go to place as i live within walking distance. however my last 2 visits have been sooo disappointing, smaller portions, higher prices, and lower quality. it feels like management doesn't care about the very obvious decline. its a shame!

              1. re: biga290

                Sadly, I must agree. When the Biltmore's casual restaurant was re-christened as F&A, the place was really a breath of fresh air, but during my latest two visits, it has really seemed more like a lackluster hotel restaurant catering to a captive audience. Something has changed for the worse in the past few months after things looked so bright a year ago.

            3. coup de tartes is near the biltmore, would be a very unique experience, the onion tarte and lamb shank there are amazing, it is a old house converted into a restaurant

              i would 2nd the delux / gelato spot for a great lunch dessert combo - stay away from zinburger if you are eating at the biltmore

              Dick's Hideway is worth a cab ride for breakfast if you are going

              1. donovan's steak house at 31st and camelback will pick you up and return you to the biltmore.

                1. Le Grande Orange is fun for casual lunch and quirky shopping...and it's close to the Biltmore.
                  Delux and Parlor also good suggestions and close as well.
                  Walking distance will get you to True at the mall for healthyish fare or Houstons (teenager-friendly ribs etc)

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                  Delux
                  3146 E Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

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                  1. re: Bissel Sedrate

                    FYI - Houston's is long gone, replaced across the street and down a bit by Hillstone, which has the Houston's menu (plus or minus) with higher prices and smaller portions.

                    1. re: Seth Chadwick

                      but the tortilla soup still rocks. :)