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Glendale is hungry Feb 19, 2011 05:39 AM

Hello All,

No matter how I make lasagna - red sauce, white sauce, meat, no meat, Greek, Mexican, French, my guy always ends up putting ketchup on it.

I'm thinking about getting rid of the middle man and just making lasagna with ketchup already in it. Anybody have any good recipes? Meat, meatless, with cheese, without cheese - any and all varieties are fine as long as they're delicious.

Thanks in advance!

Ciao,

Glendale is hungry...

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  1. Nicolette S RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 19, 2011 06:35 AM

    You know, my gut tells me he likes to put ketchup ON it, so even if he knows there's ketchup IN it, he'll want to pour some on.
    Anyway, could you just add it as part of your red sauce?

    I think it's nice that you're not flipping out about it and are trying to accommodate him. :)

    By the way, what is your French lasagna like?

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      Glendale is hungry RE: Nicolette S Feb 22, 2011 11:13 AM

      Hi Nicolette S,

      The French lasagna I made was a recipe from Cooks.com that had mushrooms, onions, garlic, tarragon, spinach and a bechamel sauce.

      It sounded good when I read the recipe but, to be brutally honest, I really didn't care for the finished product (kinda blah). It may have just been that particular recipe though.

      Ciao,

      Glendale is hungry...

    2. todao RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 19, 2011 06:41 AM

      Been there, done that. Yep, it's really insulting isn't it. But, as Glendale is hungry points out, I've learned that some people simply like the flavor of ketchup and they put it on virtually anything they eat. Perhaps Mom put it on their food to get them to eat when they were kids (it happens) or perhaps it's a "comfort food" for them. Either way, don't take it personally. Enjoy your creation and try not to be concerned about how others might handle it once it's on their plate.
      On the other hand, if you're bound and determined to use ketchup in your Lasagna, simply blend it with your other ingredients, pour it on in place of your usual red sauce and see how they like it.

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        HillJ RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 19, 2011 06:44 AM

        My kids all love ketchup. Scrambled eggs especially. I love black pepper on nearly everything.
        What ya gonna do :) The brain works in mysterious ways, right!

        So whether you leave ketchup on the table or add it in to your sauce no harm, no foul.

        If ketchup isn't loved by all keep it on the table. Adding it to your sauce means everyone gets the ketchup-y enhancement.

        1. Emme RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 19, 2011 10:11 AM

          i totally get the ketchup thing. when i could eat, i put it on everything, including... gulp... when no one was looking... lobster. or dipped it, rather. anyhoo, my suggestion before you make a recipe with it *in* it, ask him if he'd like it... more specifically, does he simply like the taste of things with ketchup dolloped on top or dipped in it? does he like the texture and taste side-by-side so to speak? i don't think altering your recipe and including ketchup will give the same results, mouth feel, taste, experience, etc. i doubt he'd want a sauce that tastes utterly like ketchup with no contrasting tomato sauce... i know this sounds and looks inane, as i'm typing it, but there's a contrast, subtle though it may be. ask him. if he does think it sounds good, try using ketchup, tomato paste, onion, garlic, little white wine, basil, oregano, parsley, blend it up and stir in some parmesan... but don't be insulted if he still puts ketchup on top of this :)

          1. ipsedixit RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 19, 2011 10:37 AM

            What's wrong with ketchup on lasagna? Or, really, ketchup on just about anything.

            Don't take it as a sign that something is wrong with your lasagna.

            There are many ketchup lovers out there (myself included) that would only put ketchup on things we *love* to eat.

            So take the fact that your guy is slathering on the ketchup as a compliment that your lasagna is not only tasty, but "ketchup-worthy"

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              escondido123 RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 19, 2011 11:38 AM

              I see a lot of younger people doing the same thing with Schiracha aka Red Rooster sauce. To me it drowns out the flavor of whatever you're eating, but maybe that's what they want to do.

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                DukeOfSuffolk RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 19, 2011 03:16 PM

                not sure what I'd do if I made a lasagne bolognese and someone decided it would taste better with KETCHUP. I like and don't look down upon ketchup, but I'd feel like I should have made an easier lasagne. I wouldn't be quite as insulted if someone did this to, say, chili or a quick american style lasagne

                1. hotoynoodle RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 19, 2011 04:18 PM

                  if you include ketchup IN the lasagne, you'd have to eat it that way too.

                  does he put it on everything or just that? have you asked him why?

                  1. c oliver RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 19, 2011 04:55 PM

                    Keep doing it the way you're doing. And he'll keep doing what he wants. That way you both get to eat what you want.

                    1. darklyglimmer RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 19, 2011 05:22 PM

                      I once spent what seemed like hours making risotto and then had to watch my husband dump Frank's Red Hot all over it. Sigh; whaddaya do.

                      This casserole isn't a lasagna, and I must admit that it sounds (and looks) bizarre. I made it for the first time to use up an awful lot of buttermilk, and was surprised that we liked it. It's clearly somebody's out-of-the-pantry, possibly Depression-era version of something sort of like stroganoff, but it's not bad and it calls for mostly "real" ingredients, which is weird for the kind of thing it is. It also contains ketchup. If he wants to add more, no worries. (I skip the canned mushrooms, though, and sautee some fresh ones in the butter before making the sauce.)

                      http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Buttermi...

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                        Glendale is hungry RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 22, 2011 11:33 AM

                        Hello again!

                        Thanks for your suggestions (and I don't want to sound unappreciative) but I'm looking for actual recipes. Surely there must be some inventive Chowhounder out there who has already tried to make something remotely resembling lasagna using ketchup in the recipe.

                        To give you an example of the kind of idea I'm looking for, consider this:

                        Years ago, there was a pizza place I used to go to that occasionally would offer a cheeseburger pizza. It was a pizza crust topped with lots of chunks of cooked ground beef, slices of amercian cheese, slices of pickles scattered about and then just enough swirls of ketchup and mustard to give the right amount of tang. It might have even had some chopped raw onion, I'm not sure. It may sound gross to some (and it certainly wasn't Italian!) but that pizza had just the right balance of ingredients to make it absolutely delicious. I wish I could get one today.

                        What I am hoping is that someone out there may have reimagined lasagna in a way simlar to the way someone reimagined pizza as described above.

                        Ciao,

                        Glendale is hungry...

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                          c oliver RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 22, 2011 11:53 AM

                          You're right - it sounds gross :) And I'm seriously doubting that you're going to find a real recipe for lasagna that features ketchup. If he's happy with it the way it is now, why mess with it?

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                            ludmilasdaughter RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 22, 2011 12:04 PM

                            Which immediately makes me think of a cheeseburger lasagna. Layer of noodles, spread with some ketchup, top with ground beef and maybe onions or whatnot, another layer of noodles, ketchup, cheese, top layer of noodles, ketcup, more cheese. Or something along those lines. I must be hungry, because that is actually sounding not too bad to me.

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                              Emme RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 22, 2011 06:39 PM

                              http://www.heinzketchup.com/RecipeDetail.aspx?id=66

                              http://notecook.com/main-course/pasta/homemade-lasagna-quick-and-easy-delicious-dish/

                              http://www.heinzketchup.com/RecipeDetail.aspx?id=64

                              use noodles instead of matzoh for this one http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/rfcj/PESACH-baked_dishes/Lunch_Dinner_Lasagna_-_dairy.html

                              http://www.suite101.com/content/vegetarian-lasagne-recipe-a327791

                              http://en.petitchef.com/recipes/veget...

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                                Glendale is hungry RE: Emme Feb 23, 2011 09:47 AM

                                Hi Emme,

                                Thank you!

                                These are wonderful! I really appreciate your help!

                                Ciao,

                                Glendale is hungry...

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                                  darklyglimmer RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 23, 2011 10:05 AM

                                  Thought of this thread today when I read the article elsewhere on Chow about pizza donations going to the protesters in Madison, WI; check out the last paragraph.

                                  http://www.chow.com/food-news/74105/m...

                                  I must admit, I was actually thinking yesterday of suggesting a beef stroganoff lasagna . . .

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                                chowser RE: Glendale is hungry Feb 23, 2011 03:34 AM

                                I think my kids would love that, too. I'd use a sloppy joe type filling. Even if you used one that didn't specifically have ketchup in it, the seasonings would make it taste like it did. Something like Rachael Ray's:

                                http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/rachael-ray/super-sloppy-joes-recipe/index.html

                                Or just cut to the chase and use a recipe that uses ketchup:

                                http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/sloppy-...

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