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PattiCakes Feb 18, 2011 03:36 PM

We are looking for a GOOD, authentic German restaurant somewhere within a 25 mile radius of Philly. Not Otto's (Horsham). not Brauhaus Schmidt; something a little more akin to the old Ludwigs. We are craving gulaschsuppe, wursts und schnitzel similar to what we had in Bavaria. Bitte?

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    Capiree Feb 18, 2011 04:14 PM

    Austrian Village in Fox Chase is a very good place. heir schnitzel is made with pork not veal though it is still very good. Very reasonable prices

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      Chefpaulo Feb 18, 2011 04:16 PM

      Grusse Gott, PattiKuchen:
      If still there, the Austrian Village on Huntington Pike in Rockledge is about the only one I know.
      I went to Otto's last May ( a staple of my childhood, particularly when staying with grandparents for the weekend) for a very disappointing lunch. Long gone are the days of the Schwartzwald Inn and Hespe's.

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        PattiCakes Feb 18, 2011 04:42 PM

        OMG, the Schwartzwald! I haven't heard that name in years. Your comment about Otto's is exctly why I ruled it out. The Austrian Village is apparently still there. http://www.austrianvillage.com/

        Vielen vielen dank, ChefP! Sie sind ein Prinz unter Küchenchefs.

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          Chefpaulo Feb 19, 2011 04:24 AM

          I checked out the menu and, boy, have they Americanized since I was there last (maybe 1991). We now have wings, mozzarella sticks, cheese fries, etc. The main courses still look authentic but NO Schnitzel a la Holstein? And NO Gosser beer? How un-Austrian. I emailed them about it. We'll see if they come to their senses.

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            seagulls1 Feb 19, 2011 05:38 PM

            Omg, me too. Schwartzwalds. With my parents aunts and uncles. Wow.
            Reikers is very good. I "think" that if you called the Austrian village a couple days ahead and went on a weeknight, they would do some specials for 4 or 6. They are very nice. Love kids, even on a fri or sat nite.

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            Displaced California Foodie Feb 20, 2011 03:39 AM

            I can't believe you mentioned the Schwartzvwald Inn!! I used to love eating there with my Oma!
            It would be nice if the Austrian Village could have a special night of authentic dishes and we could all go and enjoy the food! I would look forward to it.

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              Chefpaulo Feb 20, 2011 07:26 AM

              Wow! Glad I awakened some Schwartzwaldian memories. Like Otto's, it was a favorite of my grandparents' and I went there often as a kid. I have a full-color match cover of the Inn in my defunct restaurant matchbook collection. It was a two story brown brick building at 2nd and Olney.

              Nobody chimed in on Hespe's. It was on 16th around Locust. I remember the amber lighting, heavy pine furniture and the hunting murals on the walls. Very German. One Sunday in the early '60s, we drove all the way down to find the windows boarded up with a notice from the F.B.I. plastered on the door. Rumor had it they were a money laundering front for the Communist party. I had been eating Schnitzel a la Bolshevik and never knew it!

          3. Bacchus101 Feb 19, 2011 04:46 AM

            Gutes Essen und Bier aus dem Vaterland würde erhellen diesen Wintertagen. One would think with the waves of Germans who have come to this area over the decades that a good German/Austrian restaurant could be found locally. Best wishes with your search we are most interested in responses here.

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              Capiree Feb 19, 2011 05:01 AM

              Have you tried Reikers meats on Oxford ave? Its near the Austrian Village. It is not a restaurant but a good place to buy German meats and food.

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                Bacchus101 Feb 19, 2011 05:16 AM

                Have not, thanks for the tip Capiree.

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                  PattiCakes Feb 19, 2011 12:59 PM

                  I have tried Reikers, and it is excellent! Also Illg's, in Warrington!! Both great German butchers with a number of other German food items in stock.

                  Here's a better link for Sebastian's Schnizelhaus. If nothing else, the music on the website should get me in the mood!!


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                pat j Feb 19, 2011 04:55 AM

                Don't know how far this is but it's the most authentic we've had in tri state area. Been going for years.
                Sebastian's Schnitzelhaus
                43 Fort Dix St. Wrightstown NJ. 609-724-9609. BYO. Closed Mon.
                I'm craving their spatzel right now!

                Sebastian's Schnitzelhaus
                43 Fort Dix St, Wrightstown, NJ 08562

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                  ilovesummer Feb 19, 2011 05:53 AM

                  There is also great little german butcher on folly road around chalfont..

                  Interesting little place!

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                    gardens4me Feb 20, 2011 03:45 AM

                    Adore Illg's...so nice to go there having purchased their sausages at various farmer's markets over the years. Selection at the store is great! Highly recommend!

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                    GBak504 Feb 20, 2011 01:41 PM

                    If you dont mind cooking it yourself...Reikers. There is also the old canstatter (sp?) in NE philly

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                      RegularJoe Feb 20, 2011 05:11 PM

                      Try HopAngel Brauhaus, 7980 Oxford Ave in Fox Chase section. They have an authentic German menu and quite an extensive German beer and local beers that are German style.

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                        cwdonald Feb 20, 2011 06:22 PM

                        HopAngel is the former Blue Ox run by the Grund family for many years. It is in fact across the street from Riekers which was discussed above. It is run by Pat and Scoats who also own the Greylodge pub. They unfortunately have received some mixed reviews including a less than flattering review from both Rick Nichols and LeBan.

                        The best thing to eat there are the sausages, as most are sourced either from Illig's or Riekers. I enjoyed the chef's home made head cheese, and thought the schnitzel was good, though I only had the plain schnitzel, and not the jaegerschnitzel or the a la holstein. The dish that reminded me most of Ludwig's was the spaetzel, which is a side and can also be ordered as an entree with cheese melted on it .. ie kassespaetzel.

                        They also make a good bavarian pretzel, served warm out of the oven. The beer selection is good, including a german inspired beer made just for HopAngel by Dock Street. The selection changes frequently, is served in correct glassware, though the choices are now straying a bit from strict german and german style beers.

                        However given that the OP is looking for "authentic" I am not sure if they will be fully satisfied at the HopAngel.

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                          PattiCakes Feb 21, 2011 03:07 PM

                          OP here! I'll put HopAngel on the list. Short of going back to Bavaria, I'm kinda desparate. I know, I know, I can cook it myself, but sometimes I just don't wanna. Sometimes I just wanna sit down to a nice big plate of [fill in the blank], red cabbage, spaetzle, potato dumplings & etc. that someone else made!

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                            barryg Feb 21, 2011 04:42 PM

                            Brauhaus Schmidt has all of those things... is it not good/authentic?

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                              PattiCakes Feb 22, 2011 04:54 AM

                              Not as easy for us to get to as the one in Rockledge. It's on the list, however! Have you been?

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                                barryg Feb 22, 2011 05:13 AM

                                Yes, I enjoyed it, but I don't know anything about Bavarian food.

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