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Best BBQ in DFW?

swannee Feb 18, 2011 02:37 PM

I used to live in DFW and was loyal to Angelo's; but it's been a long time and I am very eager to her what the consensus is these days about good, real Texas BBQ. I live in new York, and we can get almost everything here, but not real BBQ with lots of smoke taste.

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  1. DallasDude RE: swannee Feb 18, 2011 03:35 PM

    Pecan Lodge at Dallas Farmers Market shed #2. I figure a photo is worth more than what I can say. This was taken today...

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      carter4133 RE: DallasDude Feb 21, 2011 08:08 AM

      I've been to there (Pecan Lodge) half a dozen times and NEVER had que that looks like the brisket you posted above, DallasDude. What am I doing wrong?

      All of my visits were in the month after the initial FCGBBQ report. Maybe they had a bad month.

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        DallasDude RE: carter4133 Feb 21, 2011 08:48 AM

        I went not once but three times this weekend checking for consistency and to seek out the burnt ends situation. Each time the BBQ was consistently photogenic and succulent (the real reason we eat BBQ). In the past months each visit has always been the same.

        I spoke with the owners on Saturday and they are extremely dedicated to their product. They sleep at their office at the Farmers Market to keep the fires going at night so that they can sell a few plates of really nice brisket. Is there better BBQ in Texas? Probably. Is there better BBQ in Dallas? I don't think so.

        I know BBQ can be extremely subjective but I really enjoy their stuff. If you like your brisket a little dryer, ask for it. If you prefer a fattier cut, they will comply. Me personally I like a mix.

        I would like to see them do a house-made sausage.

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          Scagnetti RE: DallasDude Feb 21, 2011 12:09 PM

          Did you try the burnt ends? What are they like and why is such a big deal made of them?

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            air RE: Scagnetti Feb 21, 2011 12:27 PM

            They are common in KC style bbq, but not so common around here.


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              DallasDude RE: Scagnetti Feb 21, 2011 01:02 PM

              Good question, Scagnetti. The burnt ends come from the tip of the brisket. This is the fatty knob on top. After the brisket has been smoked the tip is removed, layered in sauce then resmoked to render out more of the fat creating that sweet juicy cookie that is hard to come by. You can get about 2 orders off one brisket, or 10 orders in the typical case of Pecan Lodge.

              One of the reasons I went 3 days in a row was to actually get my order. I almost made it on Friday but gavlist beat me to the last order. I finally got mine Saturday and it was worth the wait. They tweet and Facebook on the days they served burnt ends. they serve with their housemade onion rings or strips.

              They also served up a wacky good peach and blackberry cobbler Saturday.

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                gavlist RE: DallasDude Feb 22, 2011 07:27 AM

                didn't realize I was depriving you, or I'd have offered to share.

      2. twinwillow RE: swannee Feb 18, 2011 05:23 PM

        Pecan Lodge? Gimme a break. Here's a picture of real BBQ from Louie Mueller BBQ in Taylor, Tx.

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          DallasDude RE: twinwillow Feb 18, 2011 09:01 PM

          Do you see the smoke ring? And it's in Shed 2 for chrissakes. Pecan Lodge also has burnt ends, something you would normally need to travel to KC for (which isnt a bad thought).

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            CapGuy RE: twinwillow Feb 21, 2011 04:58 AM

            If you like PEPPER.........save gas and hit Big Al's in Dallas.

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              carter4133 RE: CapGuy Feb 21, 2011 08:14 AM

              I had Big Al's last Thursday. It was my first visit since they moved into their new digs over a year ago. Brisket had a beautiful bark and nice light smoke rings. It looked better than it tasted but still tasted good enough to land in the top decile of Dallas que joints. I'd have no problem sending an out of towner here.

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              HalfBaked RE: twinwillow Feb 21, 2011 07:57 AM

              twinwillow, that's just not playing fair!
              Louie's is not the best in DFW, it's the BEST IN THE WORLD.

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                CocoaNut RE: twinwillow Feb 21, 2011 08:18 PM

                & LM has burnt ends

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                Colonel Travis RE: swannee Feb 20, 2011 11:59 AM

                Real Texas BBQ doesn't exist above 30 degrees latitude - just one of the hardships of life you must accept if you live above the line.

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                  twinwillow RE: Colonel Travis Feb 20, 2011 02:24 PM

                  I concur.

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                  Jon G RE: swannee Feb 20, 2011 04:27 PM

                  Search the dfw board for bbq, there are plenty of discussions and options

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                    Jugg RE: swannee Feb 21, 2011 06:11 AM

                    Pecan Lodge does have some pretty solid bbq. My only problem with them is what you get for the price. I got sliced beef and ribs (both excellent flavor, smokiness, consistency, etc) but only got three really small pieces of beef and a couple of smallish ribs for over 10 bucks.

                    Baby Back Shack is worth mentioning, although I've only had the ribs. They are easily some of the best ribs I've had in Dallas, and you can get boudain as a side to boot.
                    Smoke is another consideration, though not your traditional 'que place, they serve up some fine food.
                    Coopers in FTW is good if you are up to driving to the stockyards. The brisket is on par with some of the Central TX places, but I've found the ribs, especially the beef, to be a little tough.

                    Gotta agree with Twinwillow about Muellers, puts anything I've had in the DFW to shame.

                    1. HalfBaked RE: swannee Feb 21, 2011 07:55 AM

                      I 2nd Pecan Lodge for best 'cue in DFW. Louie Mueller's is NOT in DFW and therefore doesn't count. The last time I had a real hankering for Louie's and didn't feel like making the 6 hour round-trip drive to Taylor, I hit up the Lodge for 4 lbs. of unsliced brisket, a rack of ribs and a Hot Mess. The potato was divine (as per usual), the ribs just ok - weird smoke aftertaste, but the piece of brisket was delicious. The only criticism was the piece they sold me was waaaay too fatty. While I do prefer it off the fatty end - $46 for half of the brisket to be fat was a little dissapointing. I still thoroughly enjoyed it tho. YUMMM!
                      As a side note, I really enjoyed Off The Bone on Lamar the last time hubster and I ate there. They have reasonable prices for better than decent 'cue.

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                        Scagnetti RE: HalfBaked Feb 21, 2011 12:12 PM

                        I like Off The Bone on Lamar as well. Good ribs, sides, sauce etc. and it's remarkably clean for a barbecue place.

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                        kirakat RE: swannee Feb 22, 2011 01:13 PM

                        Try the new Lockhart Smokehouse in Bishop Arts District in Oak Cliff. They have Kreuz Market sausages (YUM!). We've been twice since they opened about 2 1/2 weeks ago. The brisket and ribs were also great. The clod wasn't as good as it usually is in Lockhart. But, maybe we hit a bad day.

                        We went to Cooper's a few weeks ago and the beef ribs were the worst I ever had. They were so tough we had to cut the meat off the bone because we didn't want to break a few teeth. We ended up bringing most of it home and boiling it for the cats. They wouldn't touch the meat, but did lap up the broth that resulted. Not sure why it gets good ratings.

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                          NorthDallasFoodie RE: kirakat Mar 29, 2011 09:41 AM

                          Hit Lockhart Smokehouse yesterday for lunch. WOW! If you think you know BBQ, check them out. No forks, no sauce, just BBQ done right! My first "non sauce' experience. Moist, flavorful, and a great smokey taste.

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                            GroovinGourmet RE: kirakat Dec 2, 2011 05:33 PM

                            Yessiree bob! Slipped over the river after meeting a friend for lunch at Herrera's. Groovy place in a groovy area and the Q was SERIOUS. Did 1/3 lb of moist brisket and 3 of their smoked jalapeƱo deviled eggs. I will definitely find ways to get there whenever I am visiting home.

                          2. pnamajck RE: swannee Feb 26, 2011 03:38 PM

                            "slabs" . . . in mesquite. galloway / childress . . . just off i-30.


                            larry has been in the circuit since early 90's. . .
                            you' d do well to check him out . . .
                            end of post.

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                              demigodh RE: pnamajck Mar 28, 2011 08:38 AM

                              Slabs is great. They used to be on Forest next to Top Cat through the 90's until they were "eminent domained" out of there for a post office. take out only but delicious.

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                                Bolillo RE: demigodh Dec 9, 2011 05:52 PM

                                I agree. I don't always eat bbq in Mesquite. But when I do, I prefer Slab's BBQ. Take out only. Friendly guy. Good brisquit and ribs. He may have the best homemade sauce in town.

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                              dfwtexex RE: swannee Mar 1, 2011 08:26 AM

                              If Lockhart gets its consistency worked out, it will be among the best if not the best in the area. The brisket is really special. They do not serve or offer barbecue sauce, so the meats have to stand on their own and they generally do.

                              Luckie's Smokehouse, down the street on Davis, on the other hand, is terrible. The brisket is the worst I have ever had. Unbelievable that they would actually serve it and charge folks for it. Cool place and I have heard that other menu items are ok, but if the brisket is bad, it ruins the place for me.

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                                swannee RE: dfwtexex Mar 1, 2011 08:40 AM

                                I tried Lockharts in Dallas and went back to Angelo's in Ft. Worth. The brisket was excellent at Lockhart's the rest only good, the sides mediocre. It seems excessively austere not even to offer sauce--though I usually don't use it. I still love Angelo's ribs and slaw.

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                                J.R. RE: swannee Mar 1, 2011 11:33 AM

                                I've now been to Smoke 2 times (1 dinner, 1 lunch). I've done all the BBQ joints in Texas, I believe and know my native-Texan-self around a smoker. I had the Big Rib for Dinner, and thought it was outstanding as beef ribs are obviously hard ot come by in these parts. At $24, it is pricey, but I'm willing to pay for quality. Had lunch there last Friday. Pulled Pork Sammy with Mustard/Blue Cheese Slaw was the best I've had anywhere including Tennesse, Alabama, N. Caroling. The Sammy was a terrific bargain at $8:00 which included a salad with a ginger type dressing which was great. Great addition to the Dallas dining scene!

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                                  twinwillow RE: J.R. Mar 1, 2011 11:46 AM

                                  Although Smoke has now downsized their BBQ menu, I too am happy to see "The Big Rib" still on the menu. When they first opened, the BR was only $19.00! They upgraded to $24.00 very quickly afterwards.
                                  It's still my "go to" item on the menu.

                                2. twinwillow RE: swannee Mar 28, 2011 03:59 PM

                                  Because of it's convenient location to my business, I've been going to Big Al's for lunch lately when I crave some BBQ.
                                  The pork ribs are, "OK" but the brisket slices cut from the more fatty point section have been wonderful. Very (fork) tender and juicy and although I like their sauce, I find no sauce is needed. Their beef ribs look good but, there's very little meat on them. Granted, this is not Central Texas BBQ but it's only a five minute drive from work. There's a Sonny Bryans branch only steps away from my business but, it's terrible!

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                                    pinotho RE: swannee Mar 28, 2011 05:54 PM

                                    this past month, I've had Dallas BBQ on three occasions. Some observations:

                                    1.) Things are looking up for Dallas BBQ. Lockhart BBQ in Oak Cliff is a nice addition for us....perhaps you don't have to drive to Central Texas for really good Que; time will tell.
                                    2.) Baby Back Shaq is our best Que joint. It's better than Lockhart.
                                    3.) I have always underestimated Baby Back Shaq because of the beef situation, which is, in my opinion, that they are Memphis style BBQ, and they concentrate on pig. When it comes to brisket, I don't think their heart is in it. But, their pork is so good, I just forget about beef when I go there. I am very happy with ribs and sausage and ham and their slaw and their very outstanding beans. Never thought I'd be happy eating BBQ without beef; live and learn.
                                    I think the Shaq is Dallas' best; their ribs alone are enough to warrant that title.


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                                      darcylucilly RE: swannee Mar 30, 2011 06:35 PM

                                      826 Taylor Street
                                      Fort Worth, TX 76102-6180
                                      (817) 335-7469

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                                        gdubfosho RE: swannee Sep 14, 2011 10:44 PM

                                        i went to back country bbq a few weeks ago, worst place i've ever eaten at, literally.

                                        I haven't been to sammy's yet, but there are really no good bbq places in dallas. Apparently I need to try baby back shack too.

                                        Lockhart is so salty, it's bad - nothing there is good but the cheap lonestars.

                                        i guess i'd say my favorite so far is the original sunny bryan's on inwood/harry hines.

                                        papa's bros bbq is pretty good too.

                                        baker's, spring creek, dickeys, rudys, the sunny bryans that aren't the original, lockhart, and mike andersons are all not very good.

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                                          CocoaNut RE: gdubfosho Nov 20, 2011 06:06 AM

                                          Meshacks BBQ Shack in Garland and Off the Bone in SE Ft Worth are your answers.

                                          Mike Anderson's, across from Parkland, is better than current day SB on Inwood.

                                          Off the Bone
                                          1734 S Lamar St, Dallas, TX 75215

                                        2. dejaviewed2 RE: swannee Nov 20, 2011 04:51 AM

                                          Angelo's is still one of the best I have ever eaten and continue to make the trip from Lake Dallas when taking out of state visitors for a mouthful of heaven. Been going there since the early 80's, nice, juicy sliced meet with the sauce on the side, you can't go wrong!

                                          Angelo's Barbecue
                                          2533 White Settlement Rd, Fort Worth, TX 76107

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                                            OOABuddy RE: swannee Nov 28, 2011 04:59 PM

                                            Baby Back Shak over on Akard. Best ribs around.

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                                              TexanGert RE: swannee Dec 4, 2011 10:17 PM

                                              Reading my mind here! I've got relatives coming from the great white north white north soon and thought I would pop over to ask about BBQ. I love Pecan Lodge, but is there anything up north around McKinney?

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                                                Bolillo RE: TexanGert Dec 9, 2011 07:25 PM

                                                You might want to go north on TX289 (Preston rd.) from 380 to Tioga Tx. There you will find Clark;s outpost. It is worth the drive. Meshacks isn't to far south East off of 75 on the Bush tollway to Garland. They are both good. Meshacks is take out only. Clarks is sit down.

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                                                  irodguy RE: TexanGert Dec 12, 2011 08:20 AM

                                                  Another option would be Big Daddy's BBQ in Lavon. Take a nice trip out to the country. It's just on 78 & 205.


                                                2. pnamajck RE: swannee Dec 13, 2011 04:42 PM

                                                  actually . . . 40 miles south of downtown dallas . . . interstate 45 (central expwy south) . . . between ennis-city 'n corsicana-city . . . tiny town of alma . . . the place is called "alma smokehouse bbq" . . . mile-marker 246 for you road-freaks (truckers).

                                                  often time the owner runs outta' the ribs . . . which proves he simply refuses to 'land-slide' (left-overs) stuff for the next day.

                                                  if ordering simple sandwich . . . and you want the 'real taste' . . . ask for "bit of bark 'n fat" . . . really turns the tide. as for myself, i go all the way . . . jalapenos 'n onions 'n pickles . . . makes the jowls tingle slightly. hey . . . i travel this route everyday.

                                                  seriously . . . merry christmas to one and all.

                                                  love you guys . . . keep posting.

                                                  Alma Smokehouse Bbq
                                                  106 SW Interstate 45 Service Rd, Ennis, TX 75119

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