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An interesting article on exotic kosher meat

From Venison to Addax: Kosher Game
By Aaron Kagan

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  1. I thought if there was no mesorah(tradition), then even technically kosher animals were not supposed to be eaten?

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    1. re: DaveyCrocPot

      Something just feels wrong about eating giraffe.

      1. re: DeisCane

        Yes, well, The cover of the OU magazine Beyond the Union symbol shows flamingos, and a long article by Rabbi Chaim Loike that pretty much concludes with your sentiment, something just feels wrong about eating a flamingo.

        He hasn't eaten one, but he has also heard reports (some apparently in Latin from the Romans) that flamingos don't taste very good.

        1. re: AdinaA

          "that flamingos don't taste very good."

          I guess not everything tastes like chicken

          1. re: AdinaA

            He probably didn't hear those reports. ;-)

            Flamingos at least feel a lot closer to chicken than giraffe does to whatever its closest cousin is. But yeah, they feel wrong too.

            1. re: DeisCane

              Some wild ducks such as mergansers are said to taste fishy. They are diving ducks that eat fish. The ones we eat are grain fed. And certainly grass-fed cattle taste different from corn-fed. I would be interested in eating an antelope, though. Does anyone in New York organize exotic meats event?

              1. re: AdinaA

                Levana's used to. The OU did recently as well.

                1. re: mrogovin

                  I heard that the CRC in Chicago is planning one.

        2. re: DaveyCrocPot

          Only birds, not mammals. If a mammal has split hooves and chews its cud it's kosher, and no tradition is needed

          1. re: zsero

            I think that's due to the fact that birds are defined by hebrew names, and the translations of those names are lost unless a tradition is maintained. Mammals are defined by traits.

            1. re: craigcep

              That's only true for Ashkenazim. Sephardim have signs that they look for on birds, as well.

        3. There have been a number of "mesorah dinners" over the last 10 years or so serving exotic meats, fish and even locusts. The last one was in jerusalem last summer. Just do a google search for mesorah meals.

          I would be very interested in going to one in if they ever do another one in new York.

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          1. re: shaytmg

            Who has done one previously in New York?

            And who do you think would be likely to, if a group of us requested it?

            A restaurant? A shul? An organization as a unique fund raiser?

            1. re: AdinaA

              The OU sponsored one in 2004.

              1. re: DeisCane

                The OU put their name and gave their supervision to the ones in NY and LA. The two J'm ones were under the Rabbanut.

              2. re: AdinaA

                These dinners are all done by the same people: Ari Greenspan and Ari Zivotofsky. Professionally they're a dentist and an ophthalmologist; this is just their hobby. It's a lot of work, and they're certainly not doing it for the money! So far they've done four dinners: one in J'm, one in NY, one in LA, and a second one in J'm. After doing one it seems to take them two or three years till they have the time/energy/interest to do another, so one might expect the next one to be in 2013 or so.