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disgusting, I know, but.....I need a jello "salad" recipe....

soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 03:17 AM

I need to bring a salad to an event for DH's family. I despise making salads, and I begged to bring something else, but to no avail. And the salads I like they don't like (two examples--a lovely salad of red leaf lettuce, craisins, sunflowers seeds, and a lovely blue cheese with raspberry vinaigrette went uneaten..... And last night I made Alice Waters cilantro cole slaw (fabulous!) but DH said it would not go over well with his family).

So here's what they will eat: jello "salad." I put salad in quotes bc they like the sweet ones.... So if anyone can suggest a jello salad for DH's family (believe me, I won't be eating this @#$#$%), I'd be grateful.

Please, no recipes for green jello with chopped veggies in it and a layer of Miracle Whip on top. That will trigger my gag reflex.


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    magiesmom RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 05:03 AM

    sort of interesting, actually.
    but I would make fruit salad or waldorf.

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      janeh RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 05:26 AM

      The salads you make sound great, and would certainly be my preference. However.....if you have to make a jello salad there's one that my mother in law makes that's pretty hard to resist - Strawberry Pretzel Jello Salad. Really. The recipe below is directly from jellorecipes.net

      Crunchy Pretzel Jello Salad

      Ingredients -

      2 cups crushed pretzels
      3 tablespoons sugar
      2 ½ cups boiling water
      6 oz pack strawberry jello
      8 oz cream cheese, softened
      2 cups mini marshmallows
      ¾ cup melted butter
      8 oz dessert topping
      10 oz frozen strawberries
      ½ cup powdered sugar


      Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F.

      Combine the melted butter, sugar and crushed pretzels. Press this mixture into a 9 x 13 inch baking pan and bake for 15 minutes.

      Set this aside to cool.

      Cream the powdered sugar with the cream cheese, and then fold in the marshmallows and dessert topping. Spread this over the pretzel crust.

      Mix the jello in boiling water, adding the strawberry juice. Stir in the strawberries. When the mixture has thickened a bit, pour it over the cream cheese layer. Refrigerate until set.

      (Serves 8)

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      1. re: janeh
        wekick RE: janeh Feb 17, 2011 02:22 PM

        You can't go wrong with this one. Everybody likes it.

        Also this one.

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          Val RE: janeh Feb 17, 2011 02:52 PM

          Yeah, the Pretzel Salad is the ONLY jell-o type of recipe I still have in my "keepers" file...though haven't made it in years and years...it was very popular when I first was married, late 70's and into early 80's. It was always presented at any family picnic on spouse's side. And I did like it! The pretzel crust provides a bit of salt and then there's all that sweet stuff....heh! My recipe does not use marshmallows though, no big deal. hee hee, brings back memories! ♥

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            mollyomormon RE: janeh Feb 17, 2011 08:49 PM

            I've taken this to potlucks and people inhale it.

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              jenniferdines RE: janeh Jun 15, 2011 04:02 AM

              When I saw the title of this post, this is the exact recipe that came to mind. We always had this on the 4th of July when I was a kid; one of our neighbors would make it!

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                LauraGrace RE: janeh Jun 26, 2011 01:57 PM

                True confessions: I LOVE strawberry pretzel "salad" but wanted to make a version without jello or cool whip, using fresh ingredients and less sugar. I used unflavored gelatin to set a mixture of fresh strawberry puree, organic lemonade, fresh strawberries, and a little raw sugar. The cream cheese mixture was just cream cheese and fresh whipped cream flavored with a bit of vanilla and sweetened with a bit of raw sugar. The crust was just pretzels and butter. It was so delicious, and only faintly sweet, and the texture and flavor of the fresh strawberries really came out. Thumbs up.

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                  sunshine842 RE: LauraGrace Jun 26, 2011 10:58 PM

                  Good for you! I think there's a lot of room out there to re-engineer recipes to include fewer processed ingredients and still have the same (or better) taste and texture. (still not ready to let go of the green bean casserole at Thanksgiving, but everything else is up for grabs)

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                    alkapal RE: sunshine842 Jun 27, 2011 04:45 AM

                    goodness alive, if there is anything that needs to be re-engineered, it is that green bean staple. i doubt it would even be good if it *were* re-engineered!

                    1. re: alkapal
                      sunshine842 RE: alkapal Jun 27, 2011 11:12 AM

                      holidays, tradition, memories, etc., etc., etc. It's my way of having people at my table who can't be at my table.

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                        alkapal RE: sunshine842 Jun 30, 2011 04:55 AM

                        for some reason, your post made me think of the movie, "like water for chocolate" -- with the eating transforming reality.

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                          sunshine842 RE: alkapal Jun 30, 2011 07:05 AM

                          maybe it does, a little.

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                LJS RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 05:37 AM

                As you are not keen on the 'traditional' chopped veggies in lime jello salad that my Mom (among many others!) considered to be THE salad, maybe you should investigate a more sophisticated approach. Check out Julia Child's aspic technique.

                Aspics are cool, refreshing, with intense flavours and much less dependent on sweetness and additions courtesy of Mr Kraft.

                I like tomato gelee particularly when made the old-fashioned way, with a sort of chicken consomme and fresh tomatoes. But you can do it with V8 as well...just don't use tomatoe juice from a can and lemon jello or you are back where you started!

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                  sunshine842 RE: LJS Feb 17, 2011 05:54 AM

                  Heeehee -- you beat me to it.

                  Go to Google Images and do a search on "gelee de madere" -- Madeira Jelly is a first cousin to an aspic, and frequently used for savoury dishes.

                  Some of the images returned are actually quite pretty, and might go over well.

                  This one in particular is attractive and could do nicely as a vegetable salad (if you can't find Madeira jelly, I think you could do it with clear chicken broth and Knox)


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                    buttertart RE: sunshine842 Feb 17, 2011 09:19 AM

                    I don't think people used to and liking Jello salads would be much on aspics. Me neither to tell the truth.

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                      sunshine842 RE: buttertart Feb 17, 2011 10:18 AM

                      they're not all that different from a carrot salad if they're done well...especially one with the layered veggies like in the link.

                2. bermudagourmetgoddess RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 05:46 AM

                  Sorry you do not like Jello Salad, I was raised with it and happen to like it. Not sure if because my grandmother made it and she is no longer with us and make it and eat it out of memory or just really like it.

                  Here is the recipe my grandmother made every week...my you get over your fears of Jello Salad ;)

                  Lime Jello Salad
                  1 small package of lime jello
                  1 large pkg cream cheese
                  1 pkg Dream whip
                  1 C nuts
                  1 large can crushed pineapple
                  ¾ C celery finely chopped

                  Heat pineapple, add jello, set aside to cool
                  Beat the softened cream cheese, set aside
                  Beat the dream ship as directed and add to the cream cheese; mix together well. Add the jello with pineapple, nuts and celery. Pour into mold and chill for several hours

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                  1. re: bermudagourmetgoddess
                    Ecgravatt RE: bermudagourmetgoddess May 26, 2011 11:29 AM

                    My Grandmother used to make this jello salad too, especially at the holidays. In all actuality its not that bad, albeit I'd prefer AW any day but we all can't be foodies. I don't remember grandma's recipe using celery, and she always used pecans for the nuts.

                    Good luck!

                  2. Jpan99 RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 05:46 AM

                    This was a family favorite for years. We used to make it during the holidays, summer or winter. It's sweet but we always served it with the meal, not as dessert. It really is good, unless you are totally grossed out by jello!

                    Strawberry Jello Mold
                    2 large boxes strawberry Jello
                    2 1/2 cups boiling water
                    2 16-oz packages frozen sliced sweetened strawberries, do not thaw
                    4 bananas mashed
                    1 large can crushed pineapple, drained
                    2 cups sour cream

                    This is made in a Bundt pan. If you have a plastic one use that, otherwise lightly oil a standard Bundt pan.

                    In a large bowl dissolve Jello in boiling water. Add frozen strawberries and stir to separate the berries and thaw the blocks. Add the mashed bananas and pineapple. Fill the Bundt pan with half the mixture and refrigerate for 10-20 minutes until set, leave the rest of the mix out at room temperature so it will not set. Spoon the sour cream over the set Jello and then top with the remaining jello mixture. Cover with plastic wrap and chill until set. Best made overnight.

                    Turn mold out onto a platter. A round serving platter with a lip that is just larger than the mold works best. You may need to dip pan in hot water to unmold. If using a plastic Bundt pan it will pop right out!

                    Slice mold into wedges to serve, like a cake.

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                      Fromageball RE: Jpan99 Feb 17, 2011 12:52 PM

                      Normally I dislike jello salad - with nuts at least, I just don't like the texture, but my family made them with nuts and I always took a small spoonful, gulping it down first thing - but this one sounds pretty good. The mashed bananas are a great addition.

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                      Isolda RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 05:49 AM

                      My grandmother used to make a jello salad using gingerale for the liquid, mixing this with lime jello, and adding pear or peach halves (canned, they must be canned). It was sweet, so I am sure your husband's family will find it delicious. ;)

                      I don't think you will gag making it because, as I recall, it didn't have much of an odor. You also won't have to waste much labor preparing something you hate. That, to me, is the worst part about being "forced" to make a recipe!

                      1. Wtg2Retire RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 05:56 AM

                        soccermom, I hope you can control your gag reflex. Gelatin salads do have their infrequent place at the dinner table. And, FYI, not everyone considers them "disgusting."

                        Watergate Salad
                        1 box Pistachio flavored instant pudding
                        1 (9 oz.) container of Cool Whip
                        1 (8 oz.) can of crushed pineapple, drained
                        1/2 c. chopped nuts
                        1 c. miniature marshmallows
                        Mix pudding and pineapple together. Then add Cool Whip, marshmallows and nuts. Mix well and refridgerate.
                        Serves 8.

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                          sunshine842 RE: Wtg2Retire Feb 17, 2011 09:08 AM

                          Oooh, Green Fluff. LOVE that stuff.

                          (even if it's not really jello)

                          Oh yes -- make sure that you add JUST the pudding powder to the pineapple. Don't make pudding out of it. This is important.

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                            Wtg2Retire RE: sunshine842 Feb 17, 2011 11:35 AM

                            Technically you are correct. I just think of anything made with Jell-O products (pudding, gelatin) as being in the request.

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                            darklyglimmer RE: Wtg2Retire Feb 18, 2011 03:39 AM

                            Was going to suggest this -- love the salad and the name.

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                              sunshine842 RE: darklyglimmer Feb 18, 2011 04:05 AM

                              interesting that nobody really knows the origin of the name


                              It was adapted as a Weight Watchers treat in the 90s, by the way -- if you used sugar-free pudding and sugar-free Cool Whip, you could count it as 1 milk, 1 fruit, and I think 10 optional calories. (It also made more than enough to share or save for another day, which made it even cheaper on the exchange tally).

                              (now, just the thought of all the sugar-free pretty much acts as an appetite suppressant.)

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                                darklyglimmer RE: sunshine842 Feb 18, 2011 04:51 AM

                                if you used sugar-free pudding and sugar-free Cool Whip, you could count it as 1 milk, 1 fruit, and I think 10 optional calories.
                                While there was a time when I would have gotten all excited about this and made it for dinner three nights in a row, I am happy to say that now, my mouth feels slimy just thinking about it.

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                                  Wtg2Retire RE: sunshine842 Feb 18, 2011 06:06 AM

                                  The Watergate Salad and the Watergate Pistachio Cake and Frosting came upon the scene during or at the end of the Watergate scandal in Washington, DC. I don't know if the color green was significant during the scandal or not. All I know is that I was told the two recipes were names for the Watergate scandal.

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                                    sunshine842 RE: Wtg2Retire Feb 18, 2011 06:22 AM

                                    if you check my Wiki link, you'll see that it wasn't linked to Watergate; Kraft just started getting requests for the recipe for 'Watergate salad'.

                                    nobody really knows how it got started.

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                                      Wtg2Retire RE: sunshine842 Feb 18, 2011 07:07 AM

                                      I lived in Germany at the time and was going by my recollection of the American communities' thoughts and comments about Watergate. Evidently the whole community was misinformed.

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                                MrsCheese RE: Wtg2Retire Jul 8, 2011 06:44 PM

                                My dad loves this stuff. A Christmas cannot go by without Watergate salad. It's very nostalgic for me (and not half bad, truth be told).

                              3. greygarious RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 06:03 AM

                                No one has mentioned the carrot salad, which is not as dessert-like as some of the others mentioned. Shredded/grated carrots and canned crushed pineapple in either orange or pineapple gelatin. You use a lot of carrots and pineapple to really fill up the mold.

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                                  LJS RE: greygarious Feb 17, 2011 06:18 AM

                                  Good point...you can jazz this up, make it more 2011 by adding a bit of curry powder when you add the boiling water to the jello (I have actually done that) or how 'bout flecks of coriander or crystalized ginger? I haven't done that, but can't see why it wouldn't work-in fact, I am going to try it myself for dinner tonight-will give the clams linguinie a real shock!

                                  Oddly enough, your husband's opinions of what his family will or will not eat may not be a failproof guide...his understanding (like that of my own DH) may be concretized from when he still lived with Mom.

                                  My husband's family was way more receptive to innovation than he thought they ever would be. Over the years I introduced them to Indian food (saag ghosh and aloo gobi, made from scratch) and my SIL who married an Italian actually got them beyond the spaghetti and meatballs-comfort-level!

                                  Keep tryin' for your own sake...there are a lot of family dinners in a 31 year and counting marriage!!!

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                                    TrishUntrapped RE: greygarious Feb 17, 2011 07:48 AM

                                    I was going to recommend the carrot salad recipe also. It's good, especially in hot weather. In addition to shredded carrots and pineapple my mother-in-law adds chopped celery for crunch.

                                    Another good salad is made with raspberry jello, cranberries, apples, nuts and celery.

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                                      KaimukiMan RE: greygarious Feb 17, 2011 04:35 PM

                                      yeppers, in additon to the grated carrot, crushed canned pineapple (never fresh) I like to add diced apple and raisins. Golden raisins tend to be less disturbing visually in this case. Perhaps you could add dried cranberry as well. If you really want to cater to their sweet tooth, throw in some candied pecans or walnuts.

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                                      michaelmas RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 06:07 AM

                                      If you wanted to elevate the jello salad to something a bit more sophisticated, I might recommend a Russian recipe Saveur magazine featured a few years ago, Black Currant Fruit Salad:


                                      I've never made it but I've always wanted to.

                                      If you're more adventurous you might find inspiration here:

                                      These all probably fall on the dessert end of the spectrum but if salad means jello salad I'm guessing nutrition isn't the highest priority here.

                                      Good luck.

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                                        susanl143 RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 06:17 AM

                                        i wouldn't go for the more sophisticated recipes offered. Keep it simple as, clearly, unusual tastes are not to this family's taste. Pick something easy to make and traditional and get over it. You can show off what a fine cook you are when you are hosting dinner some other time.

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                                          Cathy RE: susanl143 Feb 17, 2011 06:27 AM

                                          Agree. They would probably like lettuce (iceberg and Romaine mixed) with some shredded carrots and red cabbage and a bottle of Ranch and Thousand Island (so they can chose and pour) on the side. Maybe make some home made croutons and call it a day.

                                          It's family and they won't change. Modify for their get togethers. You can do what you want for your own.

                                          (Did you and your husband make a dent in the 'fancy' salad? Sometimes people don't want to be the first to dig in)

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                                          jjw RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 06:33 AM

                                          My family normally would never eat Jello salad, but this one is a Thanksgiving tradition:

                                          2 packages red Jello (any)
                                          2 . boiling water
                                          1 can whole berry cranberry sauce
                                          1 can crushed pineapple
                                          Chopped apple
                                          Chopped walnuts
                                          Sliced celery

                                          Dissolve Jello in boiling water. Stir in cranberry sauce. Refrigerate just until it starts to thicken, then add pineapple (and other things, if desired) then put back in fridge.

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                                            sunshine842 RE: jjw Feb 17, 2011 09:11 AM

                                            does your family actually eat that one? It was on our Thanksgiving table as long as my grandmother was living - after she passed, I offered to make it, only to be met with cries of "I can't stand that stuff, I only ever ate it to make Grandma happy."

                                            It disappeared from the table, never to return. (I make homemade cranberry sauce, and all the rest of her recipes, but that one got relegated to the "never again" pile)

                                            (side bet: you're from the Midwest, aren't you?)

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                                              Nicolette S RE: sunshine842 Feb 18, 2011 08:42 AM

                                              sunshine, you made me laugh. I make jjw's salad (with loads of apple, walunt, and celery) for certain branches of the family and it is a big hit. And you know, I like it, too! We're Midwesterners! How'd ya know? :D

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                                                sunshine842 RE: Nicolette S Feb 18, 2011 09:58 AM

                                                for whatever reason that recipe seems to infest only that region.

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                                                  mollyomormon RE: sunshine842 Feb 18, 2011 07:00 PM

                                                  With its popularity reaching its peak in the Mountain West, specifically Utah, my home state :).

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                                                    sunshine842 RE: mollyomormon Feb 19, 2011 02:31 AM

                                                    It breeds at church socials?

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                                                      darklyglimmer RE: mollyomormon Feb 19, 2011 09:21 AM

                                                      My dad's LDS sisters in Arizona make the world's best jello salad; I'm a bit ashamed to admit that in my house, these days, any jello salad is automatically known as Mormon Salad. (Although my Methodist grandmother made a mean one, too, but there's only one of her, and my dad has four sisters.)

                                            2. Wtg2Retire RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 07:12 AM

                                              Here are two more gelatin salads.

                                              TOMATO ASPIC (Hallock family staple)
                                              2 ½ cups tomato juice or pulp
                                              1 small onion, chopped very fine
                                              1 ¼ teaspoons salt
                                              1 ½ teaspoons sugar
                                              1 ½ tablespoons gelatin
                                              ½ cup cold water
                                              Juice of ½ lemon
                                              2 teaspoons Lea & Perrins Worcestershire Sauce
                                              Celery (optional)

                                              Cook gently for 10 minutes: tomato, onion, salt and sugar
                                              Dissolve gelatin in cold water.
                                              Add dissolved gelatin to hot mixture.
                                              Stir thoroughly and add lemon juice and Worcestershire sauce.
                                              Add finely chopped celery or celery seed if desired.

                                              RASPBERRY AVOCADO ASPIC

                                              1 small box raspberry gelatin
                                              2 cups hot tomato juice
                                              1 tablespoon horseradish
                                              1 avocado

                                              Dissolve gelatin in tomato juice. Add and mix in horseradish. Line bottom of 1 pint mold with avocado slices. Top with gelatin mixture. Refrigerate until set. Serves 4.

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                                                odkaty RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 08:22 AM

                                                To spare you the gelatinous goo, have you considered something like a Waldorf salad or a apple-carrot-raisin slaw? Both are sweet.

                                                My MIL makes a green-colored pistachio jello salad, and an orange-colored thing with canned mandarins, pineapple and cottage cheese. The texture of the second is horrendous. But it's the more appetizing-looking of the two. She has a (fresh) cranberry and jello concoction too. Let me know if you want recipes.

                                                1. blue room RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 08:55 AM

                                                  You can suspend a lot of tasty fruits and vegetables in not-so-much gelatin, like the carrot & pineapple suggestions here.

                                                  You could make a ring of jelled salad around a piled-up middle of fresh veggies or fruit.

                                                  De-construct it-- provide a mini salad bar.

                                                  Pasta salads can contain a lot of vegetables-I put elbow macaroni into this:
                                                  You can use whatever cheese or olives they'd be happy with.

                                                  And if coleslaw is okay, this is delicious: http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/restaur...

                                                  1. buttertart RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 09:21 AM

                                                    One of my (Iowa) mother-in-law's that I love: black cherry Jello with sliced bananas and frozen or fresh blackberries. Scrummy.

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                                                      NanH RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 09:32 AM

                                                      I stole the show at a picnic one year with this one. It is beautiful and raises jello fruit salad to art.


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                                                        blue room RE: NanH Feb 17, 2011 09:36 AM

                                                        Hey, that's a wonderful "jello" salad -- stole the show without a doubt!

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                                                          sunshine842 RE: blue room Feb 17, 2011 10:18 AM

                                                          Gorgeous - goes in my file for summer dinner parties.

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                                                            DMW RE: sunshine842 Feb 23, 2011 09:10 AM

                                                            Definitely saving this one - thanks!

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                                                          qianning RE: NanH Feb 17, 2011 11:16 AM

                                                          we brought a similar prosecco jelled salad to a family event, (the kind of family event where potato salad, and macaroni salad are more the norm), and they LOVED the prosecco fruit salad.

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                                                            Wtg2Retire RE: NanH Feb 17, 2011 11:18 AM

                                                            Beautiful. I have copied and pasted into a Word document for future use.

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                                                              LauraGrace RE: NanH Feb 18, 2011 06:27 AM


                                                            2. sadie RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 09:37 AM

                                                              I wonder if your in-laws wouldn't be just about able to stomach a "layered" salad -- seems like it could be a happy medium? The Pioneer Woman had a pretty basic recipe: http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/20...

                                                              1. greygarious RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 10:37 AM

                                                                The OP says the relatives want a sweet jello salad. Savory aspics, composed salads, and the like are not helpful suggestions for this situation.

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                                                                  buttertart RE: greygarious Feb 17, 2011 10:39 AM


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                                                                    Miri1 RE: buttertart Feb 17, 2011 11:04 AM

                                                                    I've never had a jello salad but I found this recipe in a book and I've been wanting to try it.

                                                                    Pineapple Cottage cheese jello salad

                                                                    1 (20 oz) can crushed pineapple with juice
                                                                    1 (6 oz) pkg lime jello
                                                                    8 oz frizen whipped topping, thawed
                                                                    1 (8 oz) carton small curd cottage cheese

                                                                    In 2 qt saucepan heat pineapple juice and pineapple too boiling.
                                                                    Dissolve jello in the boling pineapple. Remove from heat and cool in the refrigerator until the consistency of egg whites.

                                                                    Whisk inthe topping (with a whisk) and stir in cottage cheese.

                                                                    Place in a 1 1/2 qt serving bowl or mold and refrigerate overnight or at least several hours.

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                                                                      buttertart RE: Miri1 Feb 17, 2011 11:10 AM

                                                                      I'd like it, I know that. Go for it.

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                                                                        meatn3 RE: Miri1 Feb 17, 2011 07:55 PM

                                                                        I took a "Quick and Easy" cooking class (early '80's) and we made something similar. Main difference was orange jello, which was just mixed into the cottage cheese and whipped topping. It wasn't mixed with any liquid, cooked, etc. I don't recall if the pineapple juice was used or not. The consistency was rather fluffy. I remember making it from time to time and there was never any leftover. People were stunned how simple it was.

                                                                        I liked that it gave me a way to eat cottage cheese, which at that time I didn't care for!

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                                                                          DiveFan RE: Miri1 Feb 19, 2011 02:14 PM

                                                                          My mom used to make a version of this fairly often with the addition of chopped walnuts.

                                                                          I haven't found it in any of my cookbooks yet, but a ingredient list google search got a major hit of variations in the expected place:

                                                                          It sounds strange but is quite tasty.

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                                                                            alkapal RE: Miri1 Feb 22, 2011 11:13 AM

                                                                            miri's recipe is the one that i knew from many potlucks.

                                                                            i'm with the camp that says KISS. if they want an old-fashioned kind of sweet jello-type salad, i'd stick with a "classic" and be done with it.

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                                                                              KaimukiMan RE: alkapal Feb 22, 2011 07:40 PM

                                                                              yes, simple...but it isn't pretty... see picture in my link several inches down in reply to querencia.

                                                                        2. re: greygarious
                                                                          Wtg2Retire RE: greygarious Feb 17, 2011 11:19 AM

                                                                          You are correct. My apologies for posting the aspics.

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                                                                            LJS RE: Wtg2Retire Feb 17, 2011 12:44 PM

                                                                            My bad...I got the whole gelatinous ball rolling in the aspic direction...though I do think it served the OP's original purpose in any case...and served to remind those of us who are not desperately seeking sweet jello concoctions that there are lots of ways to go with gelatin that aren't cloying.

                                                                            You can gel expresso, BTW, for a brunch...always gets applause...but maybe not from OP's husband's family...

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                                                                          JudiAU RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 11:23 AM

                                                                          Does if have to be jello? Wouldn't fresh fruit salad work instead?

                                                                          Can it be gelatin rather than Jello? Martha Stewart has some not-to-be disguised gelatin dishes on her website. We like the blueberry or blackberry one, can't remember which.

                                                                          Or course gelatin rather than Jello might expose you to additional ridicule, in some circles.

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                                                                            Fromageball RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 01:00 PM

                                                                            Could you just make a regular fruit salad without the jello if you don't like it? Most people like a fruit salad of mixed berries or various in-season fruits. I made a salad that was simply mixed berries and some other fruits with a lime juice dressing for a work event and it was a hit.

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                                                                              aggiecat RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 01:08 PM

                                                                              I actually have a good one, it's tasty, relatively simple and can be made low calorie, sugar free or not, your choice

                                                                              Dusty's Berry Salad
                                                                              2 small pkgs. cherry gelatin (sugar free or not) Or one large
                                                                              2 cups boiling water
                                                                              12 oz package thawed frozen strawberries sliced or mashed (or 2 10 oz pg sweetened sliced strawberries)
                                                                              1 lg can crushed pinapple in it's own juice, do not use fresh
                                                                              4 ripe bananas
                                                                              1 lg carton sour cream (use the full fat, low fat or fat free, your choice)
                                                                              1/2 c chopped nuts pecans are traditional but I like walnuts
                                                                              9x13 serving dish

                                                                              In a very large bowl, dissolve the gelatine in the boiling water. Allow to cool untill it begins to thicken. Mash the bananas and add. Do not pre-mash as they will brown. Add undrained pinapple and strawberries, along with their juice. Mix well to break up mashed fruit.

                                                                              Pour half the gelatin mixture into your serving dish. Chill until set. Spread the sour cream over the set gelatin and if desired sprinkle with nuts. Gently pour the remaining gelatin and fruit over the first 2 layers. Chill until completely set, serve and enjoy.

                                                                              This is ridiculously tasty. the cool tang of the sour cream is a nice counterpoint to the sweet gelatine and fruit. It can also take a lot of tweaking. Change the fruit, change the gelatin, or even fool around with the sour cream - use creme frache, or marscarpone. You can see the possibilities. If you use fresh fruit you need to add about a 1/2 cup extra liquid to make up for the extra liquid that comes from the frozen fruit. This does not have to be juice or water and a nice white wine or sweetish red could be very nice here.

                                                                              See, "jello" salad does not have to be gross!

                                                                              Sorry jpan99 I missed your post, this looks like I have the same recipe except we dispensed with the mold and we've often taken it to more exotic ingredients as the were available.

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                                                                              1. re: aggiecat
                                                                                jmcarthur8 RE: aggiecat Feb 18, 2011 05:55 AM

                                                                                Aggiecat, this is exactly the way I make this, and I love it with walnuts, too. My husband had never eaten a jello salad in his life until I made this one. He loved it - I got the recipe 20-some years ago from a co-worker at an office pot luck. I've only made it a few times, but I still like it for the contrasts of tangy and sweet, soft and crunchy. I never change any of the ingredients, but I do slice the bananas rather than mash them, and include them in the bottom layer. And I do always use good natural sour cream.

                                                                                When I read jpan99's post, I was going to reply to that with this version, but you've done the work for me!

                                                                              2. wekick RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 02:23 PM

                                                                                I can't wait to try some of these , especially the unusual ones.

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                                                                                  nvcook RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 05:06 PM

                                                                                  I make this fairly often as everybody loves it. I got it from cooking light. I don't have the website so I'll paraphrase.

                                                                                  Sparkling white-sangria salad

                                                                                  2 envelopes unflavored gelatin
                                                                                  1 1/2 cups Reisling, divided
                                                                                  1 1/2 cups white grape juice
                                                                                  1/4 cup sugar
                                                                                  1 small can mandarin orange lices, drained
                                                                                  1 cup seedlee green grapes, halved
                                                                                  1/4 cup fresh raspberries (I use more)
                                                                                  cooking spray.

                                                                                  Sprinkle the gelatin over 1/2 cup of the wine and let stand 5 minutes. Combine remaining wine, sugar and juice in a saucepan and bring to a boil. Remove from heat and add the gelatin mixture and stir til dissolved. Fill a large bowl (or sink) with ice and cold water. Rest the pan in this, until thick but not set. Stir occasionally. When firm (not set), whisk mixture until small bubbles appear. Fold all the fruit into gelatin then spoon into a 5 cup decoative mold that has been coated with cooking spray.
                                                                                  Cover and chill at least 4 hours. I always do it the night before. Place a plate on mold and turn upside down.

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                                                                                    basketwoman RE: soccermom13 Feb 17, 2011 05:38 PM

                                                                                    Coca Cola Salad

                                                                                    Bring 1 20 oz can crushed pineapple (undrained), 2 boxes black cherry jello, & 1 box lime jello to a boil, stirring constantly to disolve jello. Add 2 1/2 C Coca Cola. Pour into dish and let set. Make topping by beating 1 3 oz pkg cream cheese, a container cream cheese with pineapple, 4 or 5 TBS confectioners sugar, and about a tsp of milk until creamy. (May add crushed nuts if desired.)
                                                                                    Those who like Jello salads really like this one. It's easy and looks pretty.

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                                                                                    1. re: basketwoman
                                                                                      soccermom13 RE: basketwoman Feb 18, 2011 02:47 AM

                                                                                      You guys are absolutely, positively the best. I almost spit out my coffee when I read though this quickly last night and read someone’s post about aspics subjecting me to further ridicule from my husband’s family. Of course, this morning I can’t find that post so I hope my paraphrasing is somewhat accurate. But the poster is right---they want jello and they want it sweet and there are many, many sweet jello-based recipes in this thread. Thanks for the great ideas.

                                                                                      Also thanks for the suggestions for layered salad, pasta salad, and a salad composed of lovely seasonal fruits. Those could all work too.

                                                                                      Nan H: The Prosecco and Summer Fruit Terrine from Epicurious is absolutely lovely but this family would NEVER want wine in their salad. FYI—I forgot to mention that my husband’s brother-in-law was told to drink a glass of wine each evening for heart health. His choice—Mogen David :0( Every single night :0( Rest of the family drinks those sweetened wine coolers :0(

                                                                                      Question-- the pretzel-jello dessert recipe calls for “dessert topping.” Think that’s Cool Whip? If so, think they’d eat it if I substituted real whipped cream? (Sweetened, of course, for this audience.) I am not sure I can defile my kitchen with both jello and Cool Whip on the same day….

                                                                                      Michaelmas said “…..I'm guessing nutrition isn't the highest priority here.” I say: “Amen.”

                                                                                      Thanks again, all.

                                                                                      p.s. To those of you who like jello salads, I apologize if I have offended anyone.

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                                                                                        wekick RE: soccermom13 Feb 18, 2011 02:55 AM

                                                                                        Yes I would draw the line at cool whip. ;-)

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                                                                                          darklyglimmer RE: wekick Feb 18, 2011 03:59 AM

                                                                                          I've actually been known to use yogurt - usually the presweetened kind - instead of either whipped cream or the dreaded CW in my (usually improvised) Jello salad. It's always worked out fine and nobody ever complained.

                                                                                          Also, this thread is really making me want summer something awful.

                                                                                        2. re: soccermom13
                                                                                          jmcarthur8 RE: soccermom13 Feb 18, 2011 06:18 AM

                                                                                          soccermom, no need to apologize! We all have our 'this won't pass my lips (or live in my kitchen)' foods. One of mine happens to be green bean casserole, but look how many foodies still love it!
                                                                                          I make jello salads a couple times a year, just for me and hubby alone. We both have a ferocious sweet tooth, and now and then I just want a good excuse to eat dessert at the same time as dinner! DH is 63 years old and never ever tasted any jello salad until a few years ago when I made the cherry/fruit/sour cream one that aggiecat has posted here. He always passed them by at family functions, thinking they just looked gross.
                                                                                          Now he likes them, but he will still only eat jello salad if I make it. He won't try any others.

                                                                                          And yes, I think you could use whipped cream instead of Cool Whip. It may deflate more than the Cool Whip would, but who'd know the difference?

                                                                                          1. re: jmcarthur8
                                                                                            sunshine842 RE: jmcarthur8 Feb 18, 2011 06:23 AM

                                                                                            use stabilized whipped cream (with a little gelatin mixed into the cream) - it should stand its own ground that way.

                                                                                      2. Berheenia RE: soccermom13 Feb 18, 2011 02:41 AM

                                                                                        I have this cookbook from a Finnish American Church that has lots of recipes for jello salad and this is the only one worth making- Cranberry Mold!
                                                                                        I pack raspberry jello, 1 cup hot water, 1/2 cup cold water, 1 small orange, 1/2 cup crushed pineapple- drained, 1 lb. can whole cranberry sauce, 1/4 cup chopped nuts.
                                                                                        Dissolve jello in hot water, add cold water and chill until partially thickened. Peel orange and cut segments in half, Fold orange, pineapple, cranberry and nuts in jello. Pour into one quart mold and chill until firm. Serve with sour cream or mayo. (I just have sour cream on the side)

                                                                                        I first had this dish in the 60's and tried it on my family for Thanksgiving 20 years later- I still liked it but nobody else would even touch it. Too bad all of these old jello recipes are so universally looked down when there are some that aren't that awful and are a nice addition to a buffet.

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                                                                                        1. re: Berheenia
                                                                                          LauraGrace RE: Berheenia Feb 18, 2011 06:42 AM

                                                                                          It's true! There are some honestly delicious jello salads that really play to jello's strengths, but so many people have been ruined by the god-awful celery-mayo-lime jello concoctions they've been subjected to over the years!

                                                                                          My mother once had to eat a jello salad made with tuna, onions, celery, and mayonnaise (suspended in lime jello) in front of a roomful of ladies at a women's circle meeting who clearly thought such a thing was the height of sophistication. And then at the next month's meeting, the hostess served the same salad, since everyone had enjoyed it so much! o.O

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                                                                                            Berheenia RE: LauraGrace Feb 18, 2011 06:58 AM

                                                                                            That's a case of the second worst salad from the eighties (macaroni tuna salad) being combined with the worst! Food water boarding!

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                                                                                          aldente1 RE: soccermom13 Feb 18, 2011 07:24 PM

                                                                                          When I was a kid, my friend's mother made a jello salad that my dad and I loved. I still make it once in a while when my foodie friends aren't looking. It's orange jello with very finely sliced cabbage, shredded carrots, and mandarin oranges. Lately I've been enhancing the flavor of the orange jello with finely diced orange peel and a little orange juice. I've even substituted orange segments which are cut into small pieces for the mandarin oranges.

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                                                                                            kerosundae RE: soccermom13 Feb 18, 2011 11:34 PM

                                                                                            I was intrigued by the title, and reading the responses, I'm sure I've never seen a "traditional" jello salad that everyone's referring to; I thought jello in salad was a new thing chefs are trying nowadays.
                                                                                            I made a my own experiment for a family dinner that involved jello (or gelee it seems the restaurants are calling it nowadays, even though everything else is in English). it is a bit sweet, and so refreshing. I'm listing in the order from bottom up:

                                                                                            1. sage/lime gelee (deep saturated green)
                                                                                            2. persimmons, lightly cooked yellow radish, lightly cooked red beets sliced paper-thin so you can make ruffles, I wasn't able to plate the best slices because as soon as I picked them up, then broke so maybe not quite paper, postcard-thin would be fine. (3 bright colors)
                                                                                            3. apple-walnut foam.
                                                                                            4. lime zest
                                                                                            5. rockets and mache on the side

                                                                                            If your DH's family is not adventurous, I don't know if they would like this, so proceed with caution.

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                                                                                            1. re: kerosundae
                                                                                              sunshine842 RE: kerosundae Feb 19, 2011 02:36 AM

                                                                                              Kero, looks like you're in Europe somewhere.

                                                                                              Jell-o is the American brand name for boxed, flavored gelatin -- it comes in literally dozens of flavors. The brand name has now been adopted as a regular name -- any kind of fruit-flavored gelatin is now just called jello.

                                                                                              For about 50 years now, Americans have been making jello salads by suspending all sorts of fruits and vegetables (and nearly anything else) in soft jello that then sets up harder.

                                                                                              It's along the line of the madeira jelly dishes I linked to earlier, but always with a sweet factor to it, as there is no savoury-flavored Jell-o.

                                                                                              Look here: http://brands.kraftfoods.com/jello/re... -- and unclick the checkboxes for "pudding" and "no-bake kits" -- you'll see a long list of American-style jello salads, with photos.

                                                                                            2. TrishUntrapped RE: soccermom13 Feb 19, 2011 04:32 AM

                                                                                              To gently refute the disgusting tag, I am a journalist and a few years ago did a story on the Rainbow Ribbon Jell-O Mold developed by Rachel Perlow on e-gullet. I wanted to see if I could teach my daughter how to do it. As you can see from these photos - success.

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                                                                                                Nicolette S RE: TrishUntrapped Feb 19, 2011 05:49 AM

                                                                                                Oh, so pretty!!!

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                                                                                                  wekick RE: TrishUntrapped Feb 19, 2011 06:09 AM

                                                                                                  I made a red white and blue one for the fourth once-same bundt pan.

                                                                                                  My most recent thing I had with gelatin and best use I've seen was dessert at a french bakery. We had a small cake with a tower of beautiful fruit that was held in place by an almost imperceptible layer of gelatin. The only way I knew that was there was a tiny bit pooled at the bottom. I had never noticed this before.

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                                                                                                    TrishUntrapped RE: wekick Feb 19, 2011 07:35 AM

                                                                                                    On that same note, the filling for my wedding cake was a fresh strawberry filling recipe from Julia Child that also contained gelatin. Was delicious.

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                                                                                                      TrishUntrapped RE: wekick Feb 19, 2011 07:36 AM

                                                                                                      Do you have a picture of your red, white and blue one? Would love to see it.

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                                                                                                        wekick RE: TrishUntrapped Feb 19, 2011 02:53 PM

                                                                                                        I have one but it was years ago but I will dig it out and post.

                                                                                                      2. re: wekick
                                                                                                        sunshine842 RE: wekick Feb 19, 2011 08:15 AM

                                                                                                        that very well might have been melted apricot jelly, wekick - it's used a LOT for glazing fruit tarts.

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                                                                                                          wekick RE: sunshine842 Feb 19, 2011 02:52 PM

                                                                                                          No that is the usual, but this was definitely gelatin. It was much more rigid than jelly. If I get another one, I will post a picture. The fruit is stacked. I never before thought how they hold it together and assumed it was glazed with jelly.

                                                                                                      3. re: TrishUntrapped
                                                                                                        kat6067 RE: TrishUntrapped Jun 9, 2011 06:39 AM

                                                                                                        wow these look amazing- can I have the recipe for it or did you already post the recipe for this jello salad? thx

                                                                                                      4. CapreseStacy RE: soccermom13 Feb 19, 2011 07:51 AM

                                                                                                        Okay, I've seen similar to this one in other replies (and maybe this one is here but I missed it), my Mom used to make "Sunshine Salad" on Thanksgiving. My sisters and I couldn't stand it! She doesn't make it any longer, so now we tease her each T-giving by asking, "Hey, where's the Sunshine Salad? I was really looking forward to it!" We get the Mom Stink-Eye. Apologies for the lack of specifics, I don't have the recipe, I'm just working from the memory of watching her make it.

                                                                                                        Lemon jello (2 boxes)
                                                                                                        2 packets unflavored gelatin
                                                                                                        generous amounts of:
                                                                                                        shredded carrots
                                                                                                        diced celery
                                                                                                        golden raisins
                                                                                                        slivered almonds

                                                                                                        Prepare the jello according to package directions, add the unflavored gelatin
                                                                                                        Let it partially set up in the fridge before you stir in the vegetables, raisins and nuts, so they don't all sink to the bottom (top) of the decorative/festive plastic Tupperware jello mold. (giggle)

                                                                                                        1. jmcarthur8 RE: soccermom13 Feb 19, 2011 01:59 PM

                                                                                                          Well, y'all got me jonesing for a jello salad, so I made a pink one with cherry jello, raspberry jello , pineapple, cream cheese, bananas, red grapes and marshmallows. And walnuts. And heavy cream and mayo.
                                                                                                          I just threw in whatever I had leftover in the fridge but used somebody's recipe online to get the liquids right.
                                                                                                          It is very very pink and girly looking.

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                                                                                                            Wtg2Retire RE: jmcarthur8 Feb 19, 2011 02:35 PM

                                                                                                            Hmmm, that sound good. Would you mind sharing the recipe, please.

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                                                                                                              jmcarthur8 RE: Wtg2Retire Feb 19, 2011 05:54 PM

                                                                                                              Sure! Here's what I put in the pink jello;

                                                                                                              (1) 3oz pkg raspberry jello
                                                                                                              (1) 3 oz pkg black cherry jello
                                                                                                              Add 2 cups boiling water, stir till dissolved.
                                                                                                              Add 8 oz cream cheese, softened.
                                                                                                              Stir and let sit for 10 minutes, then beat till smooth.
                                                                                                              Add 1/2 cup mayonnaise
                                                                                                              Add 1/2 cup heavy cream (the recipe called for evaporated milk, but I had some cream to use up)
                                                                                                              Beat again till smooth.
                                                                                                              Add 1 cup crushed pineapple with liquid, 1 sliced banana, a handful of seedless red grapes cut in half, 1/2 cup broken walnuts, and about 3 cups of mini marshmallows.
                                                                                                              Stir in, chill for awhile and come back and stir again once or twice as it chills.

                                                                                                              Update: I had a bowl of it a few minutes ago, and it was pretty good! It has a little savoriness to it from the mayo. I think I may add some fresh bing cherries next time, and fewer marshmallows. I like mine to have more chunks of fruit in it.

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                                                                                                                Wtg2Retire RE: jmcarthur8 Feb 20, 2011 08:39 AM

                                                                                                                Thank you so much.

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                                                                                                            Querencia RE: soccermom13 Feb 19, 2011 05:39 PM

                                                                                                            My grandma always had orange jello with grated raw carrot and canned crushed pineapple. With the Cuisinart you don't have to grate the carrots nowadays, just zap them, so it's quick and easy and tastes pretty good. Reminds me of Grandma.

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                                                                                                              CyndiA RE: soccermom13 Feb 19, 2011 08:20 PM

                                                                                                              I don't understand why you can't make something you enjoy making. If you hate making salads in the Jell-O tradition, then why are you doing so and why would the DH family expect you to do so? I would hate to be eating something someone brought who thought was "profane random letters" bad and resented having to bring and would not personally eat.

                                                                                                              I could make some suggestions based on some of the favorites from my family, but when the title of the post and the actual post make it very clear that you are in the gag zone, I really don't see the point. While I'm not big on these kinds of salads myself, I can enjoy them now and then at family gatherings, but only when the person making the said salad is excited about making the dish and offers it as something they consider special and good.

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                                                                                                                soccermom13 RE: CyndiA Feb 20, 2011 02:47 AM

                                                                                                                Hi Cindi,

                                                                                                                They don't expect me to make a jello salad. They expect me to make a salad. Since I know they are not adventurous eaters but they do like jello salads, I will make and bring a jello salad because I want them to eat and enjoy what I bring. I will probably bring two salads, actually--the jello salad plus a layered salad, a bowl of fruit, or a pasta salad (thanks to posters on this thread for those ideas).

                                                                                                                I asked if there was ANY other thing I could bring than salad, and the answer was no. Perhaps I was the last person they reached as they called people about this gathering.

                                                                                                                Also, I will certainly not reveal my feelings about jello salads during the gathering. The only person there who will know my true feeling about jello salad is my husband.

                                                                                                                Many people who posted replies on this thread truly like jello salads and might love to see your family's favorites :0)

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                                                                                                                  CyndiA RE: soccermom13 Feb 20, 2011 08:28 AM

                                                                                                                  The Jell-o salads that seem to go over best at family gatherings here would be the Watergate salad mentioned earlier, some kind of orange colored salad that appears to have Cool Whip folded in at some point and a layered apricot Jell-O salad with bananas. My grandmother liked to make these salads, and I'm not sure if the recipes are still around.

                                                                                                                  If I need to take a salad to a family get together, then I usually go with a broccoli salad that has a mayo dressing, raisins, bacon and sunflower seeds. Sometimes I use Miracle Whip though, because my family also leans to sweet salad dishes.

                                                                                                                  We tend to be much more flexible, but that means (but not often) gaps in the pot luck menu (few veggie dishes for example). A couple of us who do love to cook usually anticipate what is likely to be on the table and will cook with that in mind.

                                                                                                                  I do remember one church meal when I was just out of college and really could not cook, and I was asked to bring deviled eggs and potato salad. I had never made either ever (-: I asked the planner how long to boil the eggs. She then decided I should perhaps just bring whatever I knew how to cook which was a cheesecake and fudge.

                                                                                                                  Hope the meal goes well and that you do not get salad duty next time. I know it's not fun to prepare a dish you really don't like.

                                                                                                                  1. re: CyndiA
                                                                                                                    betsydiver RE: CyndiA Jun 27, 2011 12:03 PM

                                                                                                                    no jello? how 'bout a black bean &corn salad, one can,rinsed of each, cut up a red or green pepper, about 1/4 chopped onion or scallions, s& p or adobo seasoning, some cumin or chili powder, finely minced garlic, lime juice, a little olive oil to bring it together.mix well, refrigerate,enjoy...always a hit wherever i take it

                                                                                                                  2. re: soccermom13
                                                                                                                    Jpan99 RE: soccermom13 Feb 21, 2011 06:09 AM

                                                                                                                    Please let us know what you do end up making, and how it was received!

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                                                                                                                      soccermom13 RE: Jpan99 Feb 22, 2011 03:39 AM

                                                                                                                      Party was postponed due to 19 inches of snow this weekend. It'll be held in late March. I plan to make the jello with pretzel crust (which I think of as a dessert, but DH's family thinks of as salad---go figure) and one more item that really is a salad--such as a bowl of seasonal fruit (although that could be a challenge in late March if I want to use seasonal fruits, which I do) or a layered salad.

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                                                                                                                        sunshine842 RE: soccermom13 Feb 22, 2011 06:42 AM

                                                                                                                        This one: http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/seven-l...

                                                                                                                        At least it has some vegetables and looks nice in the bowl...

                                                                                                                2. Antilope RE: soccermom13 Feb 21, 2011 07:36 AM

                                                                                                                  Tuna Mousse

                                                                                                                  2 tablespoons granulated gelatin
                                                                                                                  4 tablespoons cold water
                                                                                                                  1 cup boiling water
                                                                                                                  1 1/2 cups tuna
                                                                                                                  1/4 cup chopped sweet pickles
                                                                                                                  1/4 cup chopped pimento stuffed olives
                                                                                                                  1/4 cup finely chopped celery
                                                                                                                  1/2 teaspoon salt
                                                                                                                  1/4 teaspoon pepper
                                                                                                                  1 cup whipped cream
                                                                                                                  1 cup mayonnaise

                                                                                                                  Soak gelatin in cold water 5 minutes.
                                                                                                                  Add boiling water and stir until gelatin
                                                                                                                  has dissolved. Cool and chill until a
                                                                                                                  little thick. Beat and add tuna, pickles,
                                                                                                                  olives, celery, salt and pepper.
                                                                                                                  Allow to thicken a little and fold in
                                                                                                                  the whipped cream and half the mayonnaise.
                                                                                                                  Pour into a mold which has been rinsed out
                                                                                                                  with cold water. Chill in refrigeratior until set.
                                                                                                                  Unmold on lettuce and surround with the
                                                                                                                  remaining mayonnaise.
                                                                                                                  Serves 8.

                                                                                                                  Source: Times Daily newspaper, Mar 17, 1930
                                                                                                                  Google newspaper archive.

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                                                                                                                    LauraGrace RE: Antilope Feb 21, 2011 08:33 AM

                                                                                                                    Imagine this with lime jello instead of unflavored gelatin. Gack.

                                                                                                                    Now, truly, with the unflavored gelatin, and chicken perhaps instead of tuna, I can imagine eating this and not completely hating it. Probably wouldn't be my favorite thing, but I can understand where it comes from -- I mean, there's a whole respected class of molded fish gelees and aspics and terrines and things. Just, seriously... who decided that this would be good with sweetened, neon green, fruit-flavored jello?

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                                                                                                                      Antilope RE: LauraGrace Feb 21, 2011 08:40 AM

                                                                                                                      I posted the recipe as a joke. I have never liked anything in gelatin. Jello with whipped cream is okay. I just remember as a child being served at school green jello with shredded cabbage and carrots in it and red jello full of fruit cocktail. Yuk!

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                                                                                                                        LauraGrace RE: Antilope Feb 21, 2011 08:51 AM

                                                                                                                        Oh, sure, I was just processing how we got to those awful tuna-lime jello-mayo concoctions.

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                                                                                                                          CyndiA RE: Antilope Feb 21, 2011 08:52 AM

                                                                                                                          LOL. I did a double take on the tuna in Jello. It might, however, go well with the one my college roommate's mother made. That one was red Jello with radishes. It was a flavor contrast to be sure. I still have nightmares about it.

                                                                                                                          1. re: Antilope
                                                                                                                            soccermom13 RE: Antilope Feb 22, 2011 03:42 AM

                                                                                                                            Hi Antilope,

                                                                                                                            So glad the tuna gelatin was a joke. That truly would induce gag reflex.

                                                                                                                            I too have memories of the green jello with shredded cabbage and carrots in it, gussied up with a topping of Miracle Whip and for really special occasions, a sprinkling of paprika over that. It was, to me, absolutely disgusting. But others did eat it.

                                                                                                                            I am sure, though, that I love some foods others find repulsive....

                                                                                                                        2. re: Antilope
                                                                                                                          Antilope RE: Antilope Feb 21, 2011 09:19 AM

                                                                                                                          Color magazine ads of various Gelatin Salads (if you dare to look ;-)

                                                                                                                          Tuna Gelatin mold (In color) with recipe

                                                                                                                          Color magazine ad of Savory Gelatin Salad Ring with recipe

                                                                                                                          Pineapple gelatin salad with recipe

                                                                                                                          Monterey Souffle Salad with recipe

                                                                                                                          Sequin Salad with recipe

                                                                                                                          Cold Ham Mousse with recipe

                                                                                                                          Jellied Vegetable Loaf with recipe

                                                                                                                          Calico Slaw with recipe

                                                                                                                          Jello Summer Vegetable Salad with recipe

                                                                                                                          Tomato Soup Salad with recipe

                                                                                                                          Shrimp Tomato Rings with recipe

                                                                                                                          Green Grotto Salad with recipe

                                                                                                                          1. re: Antilope
                                                                                                                            LauraGrace RE: Antilope Feb 21, 2011 12:24 PM

                                                                                                                            My eyes! The goggles! They do nothing!

                                                                                                                            1. re: Antilope
                                                                                                                              sunshine842 RE: Antilope Feb 21, 2011 12:49 PM

                                                                                                                              and anything here: http://www.lileks.com/institute/galle...

                                                                                                                              The Lileks Institute of Good Cheer has an entire GALLERY of Regrettable Food...it's well worth a visit (but don't pour yourself that Pussycat until after you've looked at all the pictures -- snorting Southern Comfort out of your nose takes the Comfort right out of it.)

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                                                                                                                                KaimukiMan RE: Antilope Feb 22, 2011 06:14 AM

                                                                                                                                i never really hated jello salads till just now. that had to be one of the most disgusting collection of pictures ive seen outside of a porno store.

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                                                                                                                                  sunshine842 RE: KaimukiMan Feb 22, 2011 06:40 AM


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                                                                                                                                    Antilope RE: KaimukiMan Feb 22, 2011 08:06 PM

                                                                                                                                    Most of those photos and recipes are from the late '40s and early '50s.
                                                                                                                                    So I guess the Greatest Generation didn't have the greatest food ;-)

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                                                                                                                                  mollyomormon RE: Antilope Feb 25, 2011 02:12 PM

                                                                                                                                  This is what my grandma served when my mom invited my dad over for dinner when they first began dating. He hated jell-o as it was and then to have it with tuna fish...

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                                                                                                                                  Querencia RE: soccermom13 Feb 22, 2011 06:41 AM

                                                                                                                                  Google "Green Jello Marshmallow Cottage Cheese Surprise"---not a recipe but the video of a song.

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                                                                                                                                    KaimukiMan RE: Querencia Feb 22, 2011 10:17 AM

                                                                                                                                    instead of a song i got links to recipies... along with a picture that belongs in antilope's collection

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                                                                                                                                      alkapal RE: KaimukiMan Feb 23, 2011 04:50 AM

                                                                                                                                      "honey, where did you put the fuzzy doorstop?

                                                                                                                                      oh...THERE it is!"

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                                                                                                                                    Caffeine826 RE: soccermom13 Feb 23, 2011 04:10 AM

                                                                                                                                    Here's my favorite: the Ambrosia Jell-o Mold. My family refers to it as "Moldy Jello," which presumably won't help with the gag reflex, but we think it's hilarious.

                                                                                                                                    Ambrosia Mold (Moldy Jello)

                                                                                                                                    1 can (8 oz.) crushed pineapple in juice, undrained
                                                                                                                                    2 cups boiling water
                                                                                                                                    1 can (11 oz.) mandarin orange segments, drained
                                                                                                                                    1 package (8 serving size) or 2 packages (4 serving size) orange Jello
                                                                                                                                    1 1/2 cup miniature marshmallows

                                                                                                                                    Drain pineapple, reserving juice. Add cold water to juice to measure 1 cup.

                                                                                                                                    Stir boiling water into Jello in a large bowl 2 minutes or until completely dissolved. Stir in measured liquid. Refrigerate 1 1/4 hours or until slightly thickened (consistency of unbeaten egg whites).

                                                                                                                                    Stir in Cool Whip with wire whisk until smooth. Refrigerate 10 minutes or until mixture will mound. Stir in pineapple, oranges, and marshmallows. Spoon into a 6 cup mold.

                                                                                                                                    Refrigerate 3 hours or until firm. Unmold by dipping in hot water for about 15 seconds. Gently pull Jello from around edges with moist fingers. Place moistened serving plate on top of mold. Invert mold and plate.

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                                                                                                                                      alkapal RE: Caffeine826 Feb 23, 2011 04:51 AM

                                                                                                                                      that's a happy salad!

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                                                                                                                                        Frosty Melon RE: Caffeine826 Feb 23, 2011 10:04 AM

                                                                                                                                        Not really a Jello salad, but this is where my chowhound handle came from. I'm ready to change it.


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                                                                                                                                          sunshine842 RE: Frosty Melon Feb 23, 2011 11:57 AM

                                                                                                                                          oh, that's HYSTERICAL...I'm completely distracted trying to think of how you'd keep a peeled melon corralled while you tried to get cream-cheese frosting to stick to it! ROFL

                                                                                                                                      2. Antilope RE: soccermom13 Feb 23, 2011 07:34 PM

                                                                                                                                        Gala Grits Bavarian (Yes, grits in gelatin)

                                                                                                                                        1/2 cup enriched quick white hominy grits
                                                                                                                                        1/2 teaspoon salt
                                                                                                                                        1 tablespoon butter or margarine
                                                                                                                                        3 cups milk
                                                                                                                                        1 envelope (1 tablespoon) unflavored gelatin
                                                                                                                                        1/2 cup cold water
                                                                                                                                        1/2 cup sugar
                                                                                                                                        3/4 teaspoon lemon peel
                                                                                                                                        1 teaspoon grated orange peel
                                                                                                                                        1 teaspoon vanilla
                                                                                                                                        1/2 cup coarsely chopped blanched almonds, toasted
                                                                                                                                        1 cup shipping cream
                                                                                                                                        1 pint fresh or frozen whole strawberries, sweetened.

                                                                                                                                        Place grits, salt, butter and milk in saucepan.
                                                                                                                                        Bring to a boil, stirring occasionally. Simmer 10 minutes
                                                                                                                                        or until mixture is thickened, stirring frequently.

                                                                                                                                        Soften gelatin in water. Add softened gelatin, sugar,
                                                                                                                                        lemon peel, orange peel and vanilla to grits mixture;
                                                                                                                                        stir until gelatin and sugar are dissolved.

                                                                                                                                        Remove from heat; let stand about 1/2 hour or until
                                                                                                                                        lukewarm. Stir in almonds.

                                                                                                                                        Beat whipping cream until stiff; fold into grits mixture.

                                                                                                                                        Pour into 1 1/2 quart mold which has been rinsed with
                                                                                                                                        cold water. Chill until firm.

                                                                                                                                        Reserve nine strawberries to garnish mold. Crush remaining

                                                                                                                                        To serve, unmold. Garnish with whole strawberries. Cut in
                                                                                                                                        eight pieces; top each with crushed strawberries.

                                                                                                                                        Makes 8 servings.

                                                                                                                                        Source: Quaker Oats Co, Milwaukee Journal newspaper, Oct 3, 1967

                                                                                                                                        Link to original recipe in Google newspaper archive:

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                                                                                                                                          alkapal RE: Antilope Feb 24, 2011 06:10 AM

                                                                                                                                          that archive tool is FANTASTIC!!!!!

                                                                                                                                          two pages away from your cited article, there is an article in the social pages headlined "party caps dental exposition."

                                                                                                                                          on the same page as your recipe, an ad for "tommy's restaurant" offers "fine good sudden service."
                                                                                                                                          <yep, i promise that i'm not going to be surprised when i get "sudden" service.>

                                                                                                                                          now, as to the grits....oh, heck...do we HAVE to go to the grits?

                                                                                                                                          nah. not so much. except that i DO love the name -- "gala grits bavarian." adding "gala" does ensure that those northerners will be induced to try the grits ensconced in the gelatin. i'm positive that recipe turned many yankees into life-long lovers of good ol' grits.

                                                                                                                                          i love your sleuthing, antilope! ;-).

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                                                                                                                                            Antilope RE: alkapal Feb 24, 2011 07:52 AM

                                                                                                                                            Here's a link to the main search page on the Google newspaper archive, it's kind of buried.


                                                                                                                                            I enter the food search term under "with all of the words".
                                                                                                                                            Under the "with at least one of the words" I enter; tsp tbsp teaspoon tablespoon, to find actual recipes instead of just stories about the food search term.
                                                                                                                                            Finally I choose "no price" to view free articles, otherwise a bunch of pay articles also show up.

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                                                                                                                                              alkapal RE: Antilope Feb 24, 2011 01:31 PM

                                                                                                                                              brilliant. muchas gracias!

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                                                                                                                                            mamachef RE: Antilope Feb 24, 2011 06:26 AM

                                                                                                                                            Boy oh boy, talk about a product-driven recipe, eh?
                                                                                                                                            Though, I remember seeing something similar made with semolina (basically cream of wheat) molded and served with canned peaches. Mmmmm. : )

                                                                                                                                          3. Das Ubergeek RE: soccermom13 Feb 24, 2011 01:44 PM

                                                                                                                                            I actually like Jell-O salad. It's dessert to me, but I actually like it.

                                                                                                                                            My family's is a three-layer Jell-O salad. The top layer (first into the ring) is raspberry Jell-O with whatever fresh fruit makes sense (I can't deal with the canned fruit cocktail that is the family tradition, and I now live in California where I can get at least serviceable strawberries 11 months a year).

                                                                                                                                            The middle ring is lemon Jell-O with cream cheese whipped into it.

                                                                                                                                            The bottom ring (last in) is lime Jell-O with canned pineapple chunks. (Remember, fresh pineapple won't work in Jell-O; it won't set due to the enzymes).

                                                                                                                                            1. mamachef RE: soccermom13 Feb 24, 2011 03:06 PM

                                                                                                                                              I just saw a pretty good looking recipe for "Cider Jelly", which is just as it sounds: unflavored gelatin powder cooked down with apple cider. I think with the addition of diced celery and apple and raisins, this would be a great play on Waldorf salad. Really, any fruit juice with unsweetened gelatin can be just delicious: apricot nectar sharpened with a little lemon juice, with chopped pecans and frozen raspberries added; white grape juice with green grapes; pineapple orange juice with bananas. These are also really good treats for kids, made individually. Oh, and you could really blow their minds with a Gazpacho mold served with lime/cilantro sour cream, with a side of fried tortilla strips.

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                                                                                                                                                RGC1982 RE: soccermom13 Feb 24, 2011 05:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                You have managed to remind me of one of the most amusing events I ever attended. I was asked to bring a "Jello Salad". I had no idea what they might have been thinking, and begged them to let me bring a hot, covered dish -- but no. Apparently all the casserole dishes were already taken, and the only thing they needed was a "Jello Salad".

                                                                                                                                                So, I borrowed a Tupperware Jello mold for the occasion. I used Raspberry flavored Jello and filled it with diced mandarin orange slices, sliced fresh strawberries, thinly sliced banana, and, if I recall, a few blueberries. I made fresh whipped cream (I don't understand the fixation with Jello and Cool Whip -- ewww). I still remember how proud I was to turn out a whole mold. You see, we never ate the stuff growing up unless someone was sick, so the thought of actually serving it to company was just weird to me.

                                                                                                                                                When I got there, someone had made a savory "Jello Salad" using either orange or lemon, had some veggies in it, and served it with mayonnaise. I nearly gagged at the thought. But they ate it.

                                                                                                                                                1. alkapal RE: soccermom13 Feb 28, 2011 07:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                  southern living just published a recipe in its magazine that looked like it would be good -- bing cherry salad: http://www.southernliving.com/food/le...

                                                                                                                                                  i know the mayo may turn off some folks, but a touch of it works to cut the sweetness of the jello and fruit, and offers some creamy richness. sour cream or yogurt could be used to a similar effect.

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                                                                                                                                                    buttertart RE: alkapal Feb 28, 2011 07:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Ya know, that does sound good. Have to say I find the "disgusting" in the title of this thread a leeetle annoying...

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                                                                                                                                                      alkapal RE: buttertart Mar 1, 2011 04:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                      i have so many copper molds, large and small; now i have an excuse to use them! ;-).

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                                                                                                                                                        buttertart RE: alkapal Mar 1, 2011 04:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                        I have my mom's jelly/Christmas pudding mold but never went in for copper myself. Enjoy!

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                                                                                                                                                      jmcarthur8 RE: alkapal Feb 28, 2011 08:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                      In the winter, I had a bag in the freezer of a few pounds of sweet cherries that I'd pitted when they were in season. After making a cherry pie with most of them, the rest went into a jello salad just like this. The taste and texture were perfect. I added some walnuts, too. No mayo, though. I like sour cream with these desserts.

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                                                                                                                                                        alkapal RE: jmcarthur8 Mar 1, 2011 04:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                        i was also thinking that walnuts would be good with this bing cherry jello dish -- something about their slight bitterness and texture would be great with the cherries and jello -- esp. if they were sprinkled onto the sour cream.

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                                                                                                                                                          buttertart RE: alkapal Mar 1, 2011 04:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                          That reminded me there used to be cherry-walnut ice cream from my hometown dairy (way back then 100% Jersey milk, oh la la...). Flavors v good together.

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                                                                                                                                                            LauraGrace RE: buttertart Mar 1, 2011 06:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                            My folks used to make that -- with black walnuts from the trees in our yard, and black cherries we picked ourselves! Mmmmm...

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                                                                                                                                                              buttertart RE: LauraGrace Mar 1, 2011 06:24 AM


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                                                                                                                                                          Querencia RE: jmcarthur8 Jun 9, 2011 08:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                          Similar, if you get stuck in midwinter with some grapefruit that is unpleasantly sour, if you dig out the bites just as if you were going to eat it and instead dump them into Black Cherry Jello, the consistency of the fruit somehow absorbs the jello and the finished product comes out highly suggestive of eating black cherries, which, in January, is fun.

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                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: Querencia Jun 9, 2011 08:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                            I LOVE this. Thank you very much.

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                                                                                                                                                              alkapal RE: Querencia Jun 9, 2011 05:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                              yes, very cool idea! i think i can feel the texture just through your description.

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                                                                                                                                                                buttertart RE: alkapal Jun 9, 2011 05:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                I was thinking the same thing, and the acidity would add to the illusion.

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                                                                                                                                                                  alkapal RE: buttertart Jun 9, 2011 05:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  this thread has actually made me hanker for some jello treats!

                                                                                                                                                                  my sister on weight watchers makes a jello treat with the sugar free -- and uses less water than for typical jello (i think that's the trick) -- anyway, they set up firmly and she cuts them into ("jiggly") squares. she keeps them in tupperware in the fridge for a "free" snack.

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                                                                                                                                                                    buttertart RE: alkapal Jun 10, 2011 06:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    Excellent idea, and refreshing - sort of like gummis.

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                                                                                                                                                                      alkapal RE: buttertart Jun 10, 2011 08:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      yes, big, sugar-free gummies!

                                                                                                                                                                      by the way, i dreamed about jello salads last night -- they were on a breakfast buffet on a ferry to a citizenship ceremony (!) anyhow, my weird brain aside, they were really pretty: purple (like grape juice) jello with mixed fruits inside, or red, with blueberries and other fruits (raspberries and halved strawberries) inside, cut into firm-ish cubes about 2x3 ". they were really appetizing.

                                                                                                                                                                      note, there was also a platter of "bacon bowls" -- and where that idea came from i don't know -- other than ripert was using bacon late last night to wrap a tiny pork tenderloin. but i do like the bacon bowl idea quite a lot! strips of bacon had been baked overlapping in a "nest" or loosely-formed lattice design, then crisped, and served bowl side up. you could add what you wanted into the bacon bowl from the buffet. <edit: i just googled bacon bowls, and there are some nice examples out there in cyberspace. the problem is, i'd want to eat the bowl first -- esp. while crispy!>

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                                                                                                                                                                        buttertart RE: alkapal Jun 10, 2011 08:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        Pls get Sissy to spill the beans on how exactly to make.

                                                                                                                                                                        Yowza, what a dream. Bacon bowls are a nice idea...bacon hoppers?

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                                                                                                                                                                          alkapal RE: buttertart Jun 10, 2011 08:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          i didn't tell you about the heist of my computer and neon-lime-green vinyl checkbook, that was part of a double-sting while i was on the ferry. i had been really surprised that the heist was part of the sting. things were o.k. in the end, i'm happy to report. ;-)).

                                                                                                                                                                          oh, ..foood.

                                                                                                                                                                          yeah,,,,uh…about the FOOD:

                                                                                                                                                                          bacon hoppers? like egg hoppers? mmm. one would need to cook the bacon bowl first to de-fat, but once crispy, one could drop an egg in there and bake till done. maybe sprinkle a wee bit of cheese on top, and garnish with fresh chopped chives once removed from the oven. that would be totally cute! i'll bet i can google a pic of that somewhere, too! ;-). maybe it'd be better to drop in a poached egg instead of baking the egg in the bacon bowl.

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                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: alkapal Jun 10, 2011 09:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            My goodness.
                                                                                                                                                                            I was thinking about a poached egg right at the end - YUM!

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                                                                                                                                                                              greygarious RE: alkapal Jun 11, 2011 04:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              How about putting a muffin tin upside down onto a sheet pan, forming the bowls around the inverted wells, then baking?

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                                                                                                                                                                                buttertart RE: greygarious Jun 12, 2011 08:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                Good idea.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  alkapal RE: greygarious Jun 13, 2011 04:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  that is a good idea, greygarious. i'm thinking it might work on the silicone muffin pan in the micro, too. (i hate heating up the oven!).

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                                                                                                                                                                          sunshine842 RE: alkapal Jun 10, 2011 11:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          I used to make jigglers during the toddler years -- white grape or pear juice with Knox gelatine -- no added sugar/HFCS/evil sugar of the day and no weird food coloring. (and weirdly good)

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                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: sunshine842 Jun 10, 2011 12:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            May I ask how much liquid to how much gelatine? Thanks!

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                                                                                                                                                                              sunshine842 RE: buttertart Jun 10, 2011 01:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              here's a recipe: http://www.bigoven.com/recipe/115180/...

                                                                                                                                                                              (you can make it from nearly any kind of juice, except pineapple) -- but pear and white grape were particularly toddler-friendly, as apple juice was a no-no.

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                                                                                                                                                                                buttertart RE: sunshine842 Jun 10, 2011 02:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks a million.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  darklyglimmer RE: sunshine842 Jun 10, 2011 05:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  This sounds great, I'm going to try it! Yay for cold, refreshing finger food that mostly doesn't melt.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Out of curiosity - and sort of necessity, given the hungry toddler often found rampaging in our kitchen - does the recipe not work with apple juice, or was the no-apple-juice thing just a personal preference?

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                                                                                                                                                                                    sunshine842 RE: darklyglimmer Jun 11, 2011 03:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Apple juice works fine -- but that kiddo just couldn't process apple juice. Apples and apple sauce were fine, but apple juice resulted in a horrifyingly terrible diaper rash. As long as I didn't serve apple juice in any form, all was okay.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I have a friend who is a pediatric nurse and she said that the overwhelming majority of diarrhea and diaper rash cases are traced to apple juice....they tell mom to give pear or white grape juice, and the symptoms disappear. She did tell me the reason why, but I have to confess that it's been long enough ago that I don't remember it all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      alkapal RE: sunshine842 Jun 11, 2011 03:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      i have issues with apple juice, too (GI). when i see moms everywhere giving their kids apple juice by IV, i wonder how the kids all tolerate it? <but i guess they aren't tolerating it too well, are they?>

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                                                                                                                                                                                        darklyglimmer RE: sunshine842 Jun 11, 2011 09:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Thanks for your response, sunshine842- I thought it might be something like that but just wanted to make sure.

                                                                                                                                                                  2. jmcarthur8 RE: soccermom13 Feb 28, 2011 08:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    soccermom, I would happily eat your two salads if you brought them to an event!
                                                                                                                                                                    In your original post, you mentioned that you despise making salads.
                                                                                                                                                                    Why is that? Do you despise making them for yourself, as well, or do you mean you despise taking salads to a pot luck since your taste in salads may be different than others?

                                                                                                                                                                    1. Antilope RE: soccermom13 Mar 3, 2011 08:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Jellied Bologna Ring

                                                                                                                                                                      1 pound small ring bologna, cut in 1/8 to 1/4 inch slices
                                                                                                                                                                      1 envelope unflavored gelatin
                                                                                                                                                                      1/4 cup cold water
                                                                                                                                                                      1 3/4 cups tomato juice
                                                                                                                                                                      1 tablespoon vinegar
                                                                                                                                                                      1 teaspoon salt
                                                                                                                                                                      1 tablespoon finely chopped onion
                                                                                                                                                                      1/2 cup finely grated cabbage
                                                                                                                                                                      1/4 cup diced celery
                                                                                                                                                                      1/2 cup grated carrot
                                                                                                                                                                      2 tablespoons chopped green pepper
                                                                                                                                                                      2 tablespoons chopped pimiento, drained
                                                                                                                                                                      Lettuce or curly endive

                                                                                                                                                                      Soften gelatin in cold water.
                                                                                                                                                                      Heat 1 cup tomato juice. Dissolve gelatin
                                                                                                                                                                      in hot tomato juice. Combine tomato juice
                                                                                                                                                                      mixture with remaining 3/4 cup tomato juice,
                                                                                                                                                                      vinegar and salt.

                                                                                                                                                                      Pour a thin layer of gelatin mixture into an
                                                                                                                                                                      oiled 1 1/4 quart ring mold. Chill until firm.

                                                                                                                                                                      Arrange slices of bologna on gelatin, overlapping
                                                                                                                                                                      slightly. Chill the remaining gelatin until it begins
                                                                                                                                                                      to thicken and stir in onion, cabbage, celery, carrot,
                                                                                                                                                                      green pepper and pimiento. Pour over bologna slices.
                                                                                                                                                                      Chill until firm.

                                                                                                                                                                      Unmold on lettuce or curly endive. Arrange remaining
                                                                                                                                                                      slices of bologna around ring.

                                                                                                                                                                      Serve with mayonnaise. Eight servings.

                                                                                                                                                                      Source: Palm Beach Post newspaper, Aug 19, 1971


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                                                                                                                                                                        aggiecat RE: Antilope Mar 8, 2011 11:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        Wow....just...um.. wow.

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                                                                                                                                                                          KaimukiMan RE: Antilope May 26, 2011 01:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          and look at the 1971 prices too!

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                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: KaimukiMan May 26, 2011 01:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            But a dollar then was worth over 5 now, and family incomes were lower because most women still didn't work. Just to be annoying... ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                                            NanH RE: Antilope May 27, 2011 09:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            Oh, you have to stop!

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                                                                                                                                                                              Antilope RE: NanH Jun 14, 2011 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              You can also make a hot Jell-O beverage. My grandmother use to stir a couple of tablespoons of Jell-O powder into a glass of hot water. I tasted it once. Let's just say it tasted like a thick, hot glass of Kool-aid. I know that Knox use to advertise unflavored gelatin powder added to a glass of hot water as a health drink. Gak.

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                                                                                                                                                                                sunshine842 RE: Antilope Jun 14, 2011 11:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                we were dosed regularly with warm jell-o as a remedy for tummy problems. Lime was my favourite, and the acidity helped fight the nausea.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  roxlet RE: Antilope Jun 17, 2011 12:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I used to love the liquidy, warm strawberry jello when I was a kid.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    buttertart RE: roxlet Jun 17, 2011 12:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    That's another thing I used to get in trouble for pilfering.

                                                                                                                                                                            2. buttertart RE: soccermom13 May 26, 2011 11:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              There's an absolutely gorgeous-sounding jelled watermelon salad in this month's Better Homes and Gardens - recipe on their website. The prettiest color too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                TrishUntrapped RE: buttertart May 26, 2011 12:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                Speaking of gorgeous things.... I am definitely making these Rainbow Gelatin Orange Wedges this summer:


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                                                                                                                                                                                  buttertart RE: TrishUntrapped May 26, 2011 12:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Those are adorable! The "disgusting" in this thread title is really quite annoying.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    mamachef RE: buttertart May 26, 2011 04:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    I know the exact party I'm going to use those fruit slices for, only I'll see what I can play with to come up with some real fruit juice based gelatines. Novel and fun, and what with the rainbow theme, really appropriate to some clients I cater for in the BA. Also tossing around the idea of adding alcohol. I really think this is a great idea. Thank you TrishUntrapped!

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                                                                                                                                                                                      TrishUntrapped RE: mamachef May 27, 2011 04:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm thinking you could use Knox plain gelatin and add fruit juices in lieu of water for a fruitier version. The one thing left to deal with is color. I think you'd have to add food coloring to get the bright colors. You could probably use a jello shot recipe, I don't see why not, just be careful not to overdo the alcohol or it won't set. The jello shots tend to be thicker than regular jello so the recipe may need some tweaking with the fluid level to get it just right. If you practice with fruit juice or jello shots, take pix and let us know how it goes!

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                                                                                                                                                                                        mamachef RE: TrishUntrapped May 27, 2011 05:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Again, thanks! That is exactly the line I was thinking of taking.....and also switching up the citrus slices for colorful variety there. Why that tray of shooters will be a.......a veritable rainbow of pretty, booze-laden goodness. And they can pretend they're eating fruit and it's really really good for them. :) re the color; I don't use much colorant, but I've got a stock of some natural colors here that I used in cake decorating, for fondant....I think they'd work super-well, and it requires a dab on the end of a toothpick.....just a trace.....to color something brilliantly. I will certainly let you know how this works! Maybe I can get some shots of people doing the "grinning fruit-rind smile" picture, after they've had a few.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          TrishUntrapped RE: mamachef May 27, 2011 06:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I have some of those food colorings also, they're very thick and just require a tiny speck. I think they'd work fine.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        buttertart RE: mamachef May 27, 2011 05:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I was thinking rainbow rainbow too, great.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      alkapal RE: TrishUntrapped May 27, 2011 07:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      those are neat, Trish!

                                                                                                                                                                                    3. re: buttertart
                                                                                                                                                                                      mamachef RE: buttertart May 26, 2011 04:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Saw that, bt. Wouldn't that be so pretty at a bridal shower?

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                                                                                                                                                                                        alkapal RE: buttertart May 27, 2011 07:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        i got that too -- it did look great, didn't it? and…i think it would be actually superior for a potluck in that the gelatin and watermelon puree will keep the dish looking great as well as tasting great. i tried to find it online to link the other day, but i didn't find it.

                                                                                                                                                                                        oooh, thinking about it, why couldn't we use any "nectar" to make the gelatin dish? like PASSIONFRUIT or GUAVA or MANGO!

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                                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart RE: alkapal May 27, 2011 07:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I have a thing of passion fruit juice in the fridge (tetrapak) and a package of lemon jello in the pantry that have been making overtures to each other.

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: buttertart
                                                                                                                                                                                            alkapal RE: buttertart May 27, 2011 08:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            "helllllooooooo, bay-beeeee! wanna get together?"

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                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart RE: alkapal May 27, 2011 08:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              The passion fruit feels it'd be slumming a litle, but I'm offering some of the good stuff (Knox's) to keep them together.

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: buttertart
                                                                                                                                                                                                alkapal RE: buttertart May 27, 2011 11:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                i am nowadays going for the "like " button!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            blue room RE: alkapal May 27, 2011 09:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Those fruits would tend to make muddy mixtures though -- delicious, but you would forfeit the transparent jewel effect.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Here's a pic of Jello in watermelon shell, though for an idea. (It's Jello, not real watermelon w/gelatin)


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                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart RE: blue room May 27, 2011 09:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Take a look at the watermelon salad in BH&G when you can, if you don't get it anyway - the salad is opaque and the pink of a baby's ear. :) The effect with other fruit juices could also be attractive, if different.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                alkapal RE: blue room May 27, 2011 11:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                blue room, what was that neat photo? as to muddy mixtures. i don't care if the gelatn ain't clear….. the flavah is good!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  blue room RE: alkapal May 27, 2011 12:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I found it here: http://wwwbunnysovencom.blogspot.com/... scroll down

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Google images "Jello watermelon" gives lots of pictures too of course.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Jello in cantaloupe or other melon is pretty also.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    alkapal RE: blue room May 29, 2011 08:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    blue room, thanks so much -- these are really fun summertime snacks!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      greygarious RE: alkapal Jun 9, 2011 09:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I am surprised that melon rind works as a mold, because when I once tried to make jello from the cups of juice in the center of a very wonderful honeydew, it would not set, even after adding a second envelope of Knox.

                                                                                                                                                                                          3. Funwithfood RE: soccermom13 May 26, 2011 11:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            A good cook can make anything taste good. I personally love the idea (and make a darn good Thanksgiving version). I really need to experiment more with jello salads. They sure beat the prepared stuff that people pick up at Costco and bring to every party.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart RE: Funwithfood May 27, 2011 05:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              You can say that again - what's your Thanksgiving one, if I may ask?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Funwithfood RE: buttertart May 27, 2011 08:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Here it is, a real favorite at the Funwithfood household.....

                                                                                                                                                                                                Funwithfood's Fabulous Jewel Mold Layered with Berries, Cream, Lemon & Oranges


                                                                                                                                                                                                TOP CRANBERRY LAYER
                                                                                                                                                                                                1 3 oz. pkg raspberry gelatin powder
                                                                                                                                                                                                1 16 oz. can cranberry sauce, whole berry style
                                                                                                                                                                                                MIDDLE LAYER
                                                                                                                                                                                                2 8 oz. pkgs cream cheese, room temperature
                                                                                                                                                                                                1/4 cup sugar
                                                                                                                                                                                                1 7.5 oz. cont creme fraiche
                                                                                                                                                                                                1/2 teaspoon orange extract (or a few drops orange oil), optional
                                                                                                                                                                                                BOTTOM ORANGE LAYER
                                                                                                                                                                                                1 6 oz. pkg orange (or lemon) gelatin powder
                                                                                                                                                                                                2 15 oz. cans mandarin oranges, drained well


                                                                                                                                                                                                Lightly spray a 10 cup capacity container (jello mold or Bundt-style pan) with a non-stick coating, and invert onto paper towels to drain excess for about 15 minutes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                To Prepare Top Cranberry Layer:
                                                                                                                                                                                                Dissolve the raspberry jello into 1 cup of boiling water. Stir in the cranberry sauce until completely incorporated; ladle the mixture (no splashes) into the prepared container. Refrigerate for 1 hour, or until just lightly set. (If too firm, next layer won't adhere.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                ***{Prepare Orange (or lemon) Jello so it can cool. In a medium bowl, dissolve orange jello into 1 3/4 cups of boiling water; allow to cool to room temperature. This is for the Bottom Layer}***

                                                                                                                                                                                                To Prepare Middle Layer:
                                                                                                                                                                                                Meanwhile, into the bowl of an electric mixer, add the cream cheese and beat until some air is whipped in, about 3 minutes. Beat in the sugar until combined well, then gently beat in the creme fraiche and orange extract (or orange oil). {Tip--spoon this mixture into the bottom corner of a large Ziploc bag, sides folded down to make easier to spoon in. When ready, cut about 1" off the corner of the bag and squeeze mixture evenly around the mold atop the cranberry/raspberry layer). Use a spoon or rubber spatula to level out the cream cheese mixture. Tamp down to remove any bubbles. Also, wipe down sides to make a clean and even layer. Refrigerate for 45 minutes (not longer or layers with not stick together when unmolding!)

                                                                                                                                                                                                To Prepare Bottom Orange (or Lemon)Layer:
                                                                                                                                                                                                Add the drained mandarin oranges to the lemon jello and refrigerate until slightly thickened (Stir at 30 minutes, then again at 45 minutes. If not thickened, the oranges with float to the top instead of mixing in.) Gently stir the slightly thickened lemon jello and mandarin oranges mixture, and pour over the cream cheese layer. Chill until firm; cover with plastic wrap and refrigerate overnight. Can be made 2 days in advance of serving; retain in the mold.

                                                                                                                                                                                                To unmold, place open side of mold onto a serving plate moistened with water (so jello can be moved if necessary). If the jello doesn't unmold via gravity, Dip pan into hot tap water for 10 seconds, cover with serving platter and invert. Clean up plate of any melted jello and refrigerate for an hour (or up to 1 day) before serving.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Note: Can make this several days ahead and keep in the mold until the day serving.

                                                                                                                                                                                                P.S. There's a photo in my portfolio at iStockphoto.com, along with all my other food.

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Funwithfood
                                                                                                                                                                                                  buttertart RE: Funwithfood May 27, 2011 08:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I want I want I want! We must start a molded salad thread without "disgusting" in the title.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: buttertart
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Funwithfood RE: buttertart May 27, 2011 08:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Agree. No food is disgusting if prepared properly.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: Funwithfood May 27, 2011 08:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I couldn't take it any more.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        greygarious RE: buttertart May 27, 2011 08:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Here's one from yesterday, re designer jello: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/786798

                                                                                                                                                                                                        If I were doing the orange halves, I'd include canned mandarin orange segments. The orange shells lead the brain and palate to expect some orange flavor when those pretty slices are eaten.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart RE: greygarious May 27, 2011 09:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Excellent, but desserts and not salads. Doesn't it look like the reamed orange pulp is left in those? Wouldn't that be a little unpleasant?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            blue room RE: buttertart May 27, 2011 09:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I thought that about the shreddy mashed pulp too -- but with careful effort you could get it out. However-- would the Jello then stick well enough to stay in place?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart RE: blue room May 27, 2011 09:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Probably not, you'd have to make it really rubbery and that would be nastier.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                meatn3 RE: buttertart May 27, 2011 09:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I wonder if you could mold fruit leather to use as the "rind". Then add a thin layer of flavored cream cheese for the pith. It would be fun to have the entire thing edible!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          blue room RE: buttertart May 27, 2011 09:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thank you! I didn't like the D-word on my food site screen either.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        alkapal RE: buttertart May 27, 2011 11:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        let's start a "super sexy all-you-want-evah-in-the-world-sexy flavah gelatin" thread. no condemnation, right y'all?

                                                                                                                                                                                                2. shanagain RE: soccermom13 May 27, 2011 04:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  This was my favorite growing up (I'm Texan, my grandmother was Texan by way of Georgia - so we just liked this kind of stuff in the 70's): Coke Salad

                                                                                                                                                                                                  16 oz. can sour pie cherries
                                                                                                                                                                                                  1/2 c. water
                                                                                                                                                                                                  3/4 c. sugar
                                                                                                                                                                                                  2 (3 oz.) pkgs. cherry gelatin
                                                                                                                                                                                                  1 (15 1/2 oz.) can crushed pineapple
                                                                                                                                                                                                  8 oz. Coca-Cola
                                                                                                                                                                                                  1/2 c. chopped nuts (optional)
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Mix cherries, water and sugar in saucepan. Bring to a boil, then pour over 2 packages cherry gelatin. Stir until dissolved, then add pineapple and Coca-Cola. Can add nuts after gelatin is slightly congealed. Stir and pour in mold or pan and let set. It will serve 12-15.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    buttertart RE: shanagain May 29, 2011 08:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I really like the sound of this.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: buttertart
                                                                                                                                                                                                      shanagain RE: buttertart May 30, 2011 01:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's really pretty too. Some debate has ensued in my family (we're on vacation together) over whether or not Grandmother's version included pineapple. And it may or may not have included cream cheese. (Oh, family, I love you.)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        buttertart RE: shanagain May 31, 2011 06:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yours too, huh? There's an argument in my husband's family that goes back over 60 years as to what his great-grandmother "always" served at Christmas breakfast.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      alkapal RE: shanagain May 29, 2011 08:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      yep, shanagain, i can't ell you the number of southern community cookbooks that feature this salad! who can argue with coca-cola? <my aunt martha who lived in atlanta-decatur much of her life would ONLY drink the coke from the small bottles. she said it tasted different.>:

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        shanagain RE: alkapal May 30, 2011 01:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        :) And of course it does taste different!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          mamachef RE: alkapal May 31, 2011 06:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          It does! It was one happy day a few years ago when we stopped at a little teeny tiny market in Louisiana, somewhere out in the swamps, and found a cooler that had them. I didn't even know they made those anymore. They were so cold, they had an iceplug in them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: mamachef May 31, 2011 07:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Let's really go old school - I remmeber when the bottles were pale green and had the bottling plant location stamped on them (I was little tiny).
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Pepsi's slogan at the time was was "Ten full ounces, that's a lot" - seems like nothing now, doesn't it?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              mamachef RE: buttertart May 31, 2011 07:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm pretty sure it was past the time of bottling location stamps, but these bottles were definitely that almost eerie pale shade of green. Like my skin on a bad day. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                buttertart RE: mamachef May 31, 2011 07:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                It was a very odd color.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Surfwench RE: soccermom13 May 27, 2011 05:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        soccermom... Relax and embrace the horror that is the congealed salad. It helps if you remember that this is 1930s Molecular Gastronomy. Sounds kind of sophisticated, doesn't it? Every holiday dinner that features either roast turkey, roast duck, or ham includes this jiggly 'salad.' There are variations already published on this thread, but like all good recipes, variations are endless. Cherry Jello, Whole Berry Cranberry Sauce, Mandarin Oranges, Green Apple Dice, Walnut Pieces... never failed me yet for a family dinner.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hanky RE: soccermom13 May 31, 2011 07:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          This one is pretty and tastes pretty good. http://www.recipegirl.com/2007/08/03/...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: Hanky May 31, 2011 07:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            That is very pretty and could be made with coconut milk or Chinese almond jello dessert, too. I'm stealing this to post on the pro-jello salad thread. ;-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. alkapal RE: soccermom13 Jun 12, 2011 04:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            i just came across this rather exotic version of the jello-in-fruit concept: http://yireservation.com/recipes/chry...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart RE: alkapal Jun 12, 2011 08:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              That IS nice. Surprised it sets inside a papaya, I would have expected the papain to interfere with it. LOVE that site, thanks, Amy!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                alkapal RE: buttertart Jun 13, 2011 04:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                ...but don't add sriracha. LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                                                yes, i was thinking that about the papaya, too. isn't that weird? i'll look up the "pineapple" enzyme and see how it compares with the "papaya" enzyme.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                after some research, it seems that papain (from papaya) and bromelain (from pineapple) do in fact have similar effects: "Apart from the mushiness of meat that has been over-tenderized, the activity of bromelain and similarly proteolytic plant enzymes can be undesirable where it is inappropriate. In dishes that depend on their protein content for important attributes, uncooked pineapple or its juice can be a nuisance. For example, some dishes such as brawn and jelly [called gelatin dessert (Jell-o) in the US] rely on the setting of gelatin. They will not set if they contain raw pineapple or pineapple juice. Raw figs, papaya, and similarly proteolytic vegetable matter causes similar problems."""""" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromelain

                                                                                                                                                                                                                hmmm…. now we have a mystery with the jello-in-papaya!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: alkapal
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  buttertart RE: alkapal Jun 14, 2011 08:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ask the blogger time!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Brawn = headcheese...meat in gelatin, that I really don't like.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: buttertart
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    alkapal RE: buttertart Jun 14, 2011 11:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    my mom liked that lunchmeat that had gelatin...and it was o.k. i don't think it exists as a lunchmeat in deli packs anymore. i think it was called "luncheon meat," but i think it would be called head cheese in any other setting. yep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_cheese

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    i know eric ripert likes the real thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: alkapal Jun 14, 2011 12:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      My mom too, once in a while. That's how I know I don't care for it! ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  greygarious RE: buttertart Jun 14, 2011 09:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  One of the other jello threads had a picture of jello molded in a melon rind. I noted that honeydew prevents jelling, so I was surprised to see that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    AuntPlam RE: greygarious Jun 14, 2011 09:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Along a similar line, I've had a question for a while. Can you use coconut milk instead of water to make Jello? Even just replace some of the water with coconut milk perhaps? Will it still firm up?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: AuntPlam Jun 14, 2011 11:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't see why not, there's coconut milk jello on most of the dim sum dessert carts.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        sunshine842 RE: AuntPlam Jun 14, 2011 11:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        a box of Jell-o is cheap enough that it's worth a shot!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        (if not, I'm guessing the Knox Blox route would work)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          greygarious RE: AuntPlam Jun 14, 2011 07:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yes, you can - coconut milk, coconut cream, or cream of coconut (which you'd probably want to thin). Pineapple Jell-O mix is a good match for coconut, even better if you put chunks of canned (or cooked) pineapple in it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: greygarious Jun 15, 2011 06:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Wowie...zowie! Can I come to your house?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              alkapal RE: buttertart Jun 15, 2011 06:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              piña colada jello -- hey…now there's a plan!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ooh, and make it in that gummy squares version! or make it into popsicles? i love this winning flavor combo!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                AuntPlam RE: alkapal Jun 15, 2011 07:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I was actually thinking about making coconut-lime or coconut-pineapple jello and pouring it over a white cake, jello-poke-cake style and topping w/ whipped cream. It's one of those almost gross, kinda stupid, but still fantastic little kid family picnic style desserts that will always make me happy. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  buttertart RE: AuntPlam Jun 15, 2011 07:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I love the way you think. Nothing gross about that, my eyes would light up and my stomach say howdy if presented with it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: buttertart
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    AuntPlam RE: buttertart Jun 15, 2011 08:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    High five, buttertart. I approve!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    alkapal RE: AuntPlam Jun 16, 2011 07:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    i love that idea; i'll bet it would be delicious. when googling around, i saw the strawberry poke cake and it looked really good (as i tasted it in my mind). ;-).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: alkapal Jun 17, 2011 05:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Think I'll make it for the Iowa fam this summer, sounds like a hit (they love pineapple and coconut, my husband does not like either terribly much). I always loved the poke cake.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. greygarious RE: soccermom13 Jun 25, 2011 04:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      OP may get a kick out of the salad recipe sung in the second hour of tonight's Prairie Home Companion (listen online thru prairiehome.org), to the tune of "O, mio bambino caro". It begins "Oh maraschino cherries" and goes on to include a box of jello, banana, and watermelon, ending with "that's what I call a salad".

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        buttertart RE: greygarious Jun 25, 2011 04:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Verrry Midwestern!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          sunshine842 RE: buttertart Jun 26, 2011 01:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          where all the women are strong, the men are all good-looking, and the children are all above average.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: sunshine842 Jun 26, 2011 08:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Indeed. Even if they're not Lutherans.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Funwithfood RE: buttertart Jun 29, 2011 11:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ...in Hush Puppies.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. pghveg RE: soccermom13 Jul 8, 2011 02:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        anyone ever make a vegan "jello salad" or "aspic"? Maybe with agar? These things look awesomegross!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          jeanmarieok RE: pghveg Jul 8, 2011 02:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I sell homemade marshmallows at my market stand, and I had a bunch of vegans harrassing me for not making vegan marshmallows, so I tried a vegan recipe, using Genutine Vegetarian Gelatine. It was interesting, and they came out just ok, but I could only wonder if the veg gelatin would make jello. It has guar gum, I know, and one of the vegans sneered at me for that, so I'm not sure if the vegan gelatin is a good thing or a bad thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            will47 RE: pghveg Jul 8, 2011 10:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My mother-in-law made a homemade version of a Chinese style jello / fruit salad type thing. Usually, this is a combination of canned squares of almond jelly (杏仁凍) and canned fruit, but this time she made two different types of homemade agar / coconut milk dessert (one was plain, and one pandan, I think?) mixed with some chunks of fresh, ripe pineapple and other fresh fruit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The basic procedure is to heat coconut milk, sugar (dissolved rock sugar; white sugar will probably work; don't over-do it with the sugar), and a pinch of salt. Then add agar and put in the fridge to set. The amount of agar is the trickiest part, and will depend on the exact type of agar you use. Generally speaking, it takes very little, and if you use too much, the end result will be too hard. If the coconut milk separates (as described below), it will give an interesting two-tone (translucent -> white) look. I'm not sure if she used pandan soy milk, pandan leaves, or pandan extract for the pandan flavored jello.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            You can try something along these lines:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            if you get the powdered agar rather than the stick type, search online for a starting point as far as quantity.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            You can also make a "cake" this way, with cooked mung beans at the bottom, which I think is also pretty delicious.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart RE: will47 Jul 13, 2011 08:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I love Chinese agar jellies, especially the almond one. It's fun that it sets at room temp. Mitsumame is great too...http://1tess.wordpress.com/2008/08/31... (the recipe gives a hint of the agar proportions stick vs powder).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. alkapal RE: soccermom13 Jul 15, 2011 07:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            LOOK at these pretty "blackberry bramble" jello squares! how cute! http://www.thekitchn.com/thekitchn/hi...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart RE: alkapal Jul 15, 2011 07:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Those are gorgeous!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                alkapal RE: buttertart Jul 15, 2011 07:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                i know…check out the whole slideshow (even though you hate slideshows)….some amazing jello creations.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                JELLO…you've come a long way, baby!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  buttertart RE: alkapal Jul 15, 2011 08:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Who says I hate slideshows? Not this tart!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. roxlet RE: soccermom13 Jul 15, 2011 07:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Actually, not disgusting -- but kind of cool. Check this out:


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                buttertart RE: roxlet Jul 15, 2011 08:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Could I have one now, please?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  alkapal RE: buttertart Jul 16, 2011 03:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  one of each!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  shanagain RE: roxlet Jul 18, 2011 01:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I spent the better part of two days reading this site before the 4th of July blowout we were attending.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  My contribution ended up being an insanely good mix of pineapple jello, coconut milk and rum.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    alkapal RE: shanagain Jul 19, 2011 05:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    piña colada booze pops? yum….so fun for a party!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Querencia RE: soccermom13 Oct 30, 2012 09:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Orange jello with canned crushed pineapple and grated raw carrot. My Grandma's specialty.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Cynsa RE: Querencia Nov 4, 2012 06:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      we call it Sunshine Salad : )
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      served on a lettuce leaf with a dollop of mayonnaise -

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        buttertart RE: Cynsa Nov 4, 2012 07:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Not disgusting one bit, typical of my MIL's cooking as well. Very refreshing.

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