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Terriwth4 Feb 10, 2011 05:59 AM

My husband and I get to NYC about 1-2 times a year but haven't been in a while. We have Friday night all figured out with Le Bernadin(never been) We need help with Saturday. We want great food/wine list but does not need to be on par pricewise with Le Bernadin . Have been reading boards but can't figure out because nothing seems consistant.
We are staying in the 40's so would also prefer midtown but would cab it for a guaranteed great "wow" experience.

  1. t
    Terriwth4 Feb 10, 2011 07:52 AM

    Thanks for the info. I am realizing how long it has been since we have been to NYC just by how many restaurants have closed that we used to enjoy. Most of our choices were for pre theatre as we love to go see the shows on Broadway and we are doing that Friday.
    I think only a couple that we have gone to previously are still opened!
    Chanterelle
    Coco Pazzo
    Baldoria
    Le Madeleine
    Isabellas
    Le Refuge
    are all closed
    Docks, Union Square Cafe, Balthazar, One if by Land are a sampling of whats still open from our list.
    We enjoy a nice dining expereince, atmosphere(and people who wear something besides jeans to a nice restaurant a plus;) good food, experienced service and a great red wine list. Don't mind spending about $300 for dinner after that I think we feel it gets ridiculous.
    Hope that gives some direction.

    21 Replies
    1. re: Terriwth4
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      fm1963 Feb 10, 2011 10:37 AM

      I think Le Refuge (upper east side) and Isabella's (upper west side) are still open.

      Some alternatives to:

      Chanterelle - try Corton or Picholine
      Coco Pazzo - try Scarpetta or Locanda Verde
      Union Square Cafe - try Gramercy Tavern or Blue Ribbon (Sullivan St.)
      Balthazar - try Minetta Tavern or The Breslin
      Le Refuge - try Jean Claude or Raoul's
      Docks - try Oceana or Millesime
      One If By Land - try Bouley

      At Le Bernardin, be sure to request the signature milk chocolate "Egg" pre-dessert when you place your food order.

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      Gramercy Tavern
      42 E 20th St, New York, NY 10003

      Coco Pazzo
      23 E 74th St, New York, NY 10021

      Minetta Tavern
      113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

      Picholine
      35 West 64th St., New York, NY 10023

      Scarpetta
      355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

      Corton
      239 West Broadway, New York, NY 10013

      Locanda Verde
      377 Greenwich St, New York, NY 10013

      The Breslin
      20 W 29th St, New York, NY 10001

      1. re: fm1963
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        Terriwth4 Feb 10, 2011 12:09 PM

        Wow, this is great. Thank you Thank you

        Le Refuge definitely closed but Isabella's is still opened but I like having different options. I have been to Grammercy Tavern also and enjoyed my evening there. We also have been to Daniel. We really have always had wonderful experiences so that you for expanding my horizons here.

        My sister also mentioned Grifones, Esca and Eleven Madison Park.....any comments?

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          fm1963 Feb 10, 2011 12:15 PM

          You're right, Le Refuge is closed.

          Given your preferences, I think you would definitely enjoy Esca and Eleven Madison Park. Be aware though that Eleven Madison Park will exceed $300.

          I have not been to Grifone.

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          Eleven Madison Park
          11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

          Grifone
          244 E 46th St, New York, NY 10017

          Esca
          402 West 43rd Street, New York, NY 10036

          1. re: fm1963
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            Terriwth4 Feb 10, 2011 12:32 PM

            Am on waiting list for Saturday at Eleven Madison Park. I am thinking it won't happen so have made plan B for Picholine.

            Friday we are eating a late(1:45pm) lunch at Le Bernardin and the going to The Addams Family evening performance and hotel is midtown in the 40's. Any cocktails/snack or nitecap/dessert advice for that plan?

            1. re: Terriwth4
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              fm1963 Feb 10, 2011 12:41 PM

              You could have dinner at Esca, which is close to your theater and hotel (though two seafood meals in one day might be too duplicative).

              If you want something lighter, perhaps The Modern Bar Room on 53rd Street between 5th and 6th Avenue, which also has great desserts, DB Bistro Moderne on 44th between 5th and 6th would also be a good choice.

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              DB Bistro Moderne
              55 West 44th Street, New York, NY 10036

              Esca
              402 West 43rd Street, New York, NY 10036

              1. re: Terriwth4
                flueln Feb 10, 2011 01:30 PM

                Once again, you might consider Pigalle. It's open 24-7. I've had an after theater dinner there, as well as breakfast. I can't speak to the wine list, since I rarely drink wine. But it's a French restaurant - how bad can the wine be?

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                Pigalle
                790 8th Ave, New York, NY 10019

                1. re: flueln
                  loratliff Feb 10, 2011 04:57 PM

                  My parents love Pigalle for breakfast when they're in town, so if you have a free morning, I have to second its recommendation.

                  Sounds like you're on the right track with the others. I highly recommend EMP. For a slightly less "fancy" experience, but still great food/wine, you might like Hearth.

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                  Pigalle
                  790 8th Ave, New York, NY 10019

              2. re: fm1963
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                ml77 Feb 10, 2011 12:49 PM

                Though if the OP and husband are not big drinkers or are willing to go without, they could get out of EMP for about $325, which is not too far above their budget.

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                  fm1963 Feb 10, 2011 12:53 PM

                  Yes, but the OP emphasized a good wine list, so I assumed she would be ordering some wine. Otherwise, without wine EMP would be in the ballpark of $300, as you said.

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                    Terriwth4 Feb 10, 2011 01:54 PM

                    Wine is a given! We are red wine drinkers....my husband would get a chuckle out of me suggesting that we save a few dollars and forget the wine....he'd rather forget the food!

                    1. re: fm1963
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                      ml77 Feb 10, 2011 07:55 PM

                      Fair point. I didn't notice the "/wine list" in the original post. Thanks.

              3. re: fm1963
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                RGR Feb 10, 2011 02:51 PM

                "Chanterelle - try Corton or Picholine"

                There is not the slightest resemblance between the cuisine at Chanterelle and Paul Liebrandt's cuisine at Corton. Also, the dining room at Corton comes off poorly when compared with the gorgeous dining room with tables spaced far, far apart at Chanterelle. Picholine would be a much better fit.

                "Docks - try Oceana or Millesime"

                This is a case where, imo, the food at both substitute suggestions are far superior to the original. (And, btw, the UWS Docks has closed.)

                Oceana photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157624127309526/

                Millesime photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157624127309526/

                http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                1. re: RGR
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                  fm1963 Feb 10, 2011 03:09 PM

                  I suggested Corton as an alternative to Chanterelle because it also has a distinctive, highly evolved, and intensely personalized approach to French food. I didn't mean to imply that the cuisine or space were in any way similar, though of course I could have been clearer about my basis for comparison.

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                  Corton
                  239 West Broadway, New York, NY 10013

                  1. re: fm1963
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                    Terriwth4 Feb 10, 2011 04:59 PM

                    Thank you again1963
                    Your suggestions were appreciated by me nonetheless.and RGR I appreciate the clarifications as well.
                    Still trying to figure out if there is an easy place to grab a pastry and good coffee Friday and Saturday mornings(Sunday I think we may have to check out Clinton Street bakery).
                    Our hotel is at Madison/West 40's, I think we will probably head to the Whitney/Frick Museums Saturday and Saturday evening I did get a reservation at Picholine prior to the Symphony. When you only get to NYC for long weekend once or twice a year you try to cram it all in!
                    Thanks again for everyones guidance

                    1. re: Terriwth4
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                      kathryn Feb 10, 2011 06:30 PM

                      What are the cross streets of your hotel? Madison Avenue is east of 5th, which is the dividing line between east and west, so your post doesn't make sense.

                      Coffee & pastry wise, you could try:
                      Culture Espresso Bar
                      Joe the Art of Coffee in Grand Central
                      the 'wichcraft kiosks in Bryant Park
                      The Shop at the Andaz Hotel 5th Ave

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                      Culture Espresso Bar
                      72 W 38th St, New York, NY 10018

                      1. re: kathryn
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                        Terriwth4 Feb 11, 2011 03:21 AM

                        We will be near Grand Central at the Library Hotel I believe the cross street is E 41st

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                          RGR Feb 11, 2011 06:25 AM

                          The Library Hotel is on the corner of Madison & E. 41st.

                          http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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                    mom22tots Feb 10, 2011 05:07 PM

                    I think both of the links provided go to Oceana photos. Would love to see the Millesime photos as well!

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                    Oceana
                    120 W 49th St, New York, NY 10020

                    Millesime
                    92 Madison Ave, New York, NY 10016

                    1. re: mom22tots
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                      RGR Feb 10, 2011 08:15 PM

                      Oops! Thanks for catching that, mom22.

                      Millesime photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

                      1. re: RGR
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                        KateMW Feb 10, 2011 09:24 PM

                        It's still going to Oceana pics, but they did help me pick to try it on our trip in March, so thanks! Without your picks, RGR, I'm not sure I would ever know where to eat!

                        1. re: KateMW
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                          RGR Feb 11, 2011 06:20 AM

                          Well, that's what I get for not checking to make sure the link is correct. One more time....

                          Millesime photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157625752088978/

                          ETA: Success! And, Kate, I'm happy that you have found my photos so helpful.

                          http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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                gutsofsteel Feb 10, 2011 06:44 AM

                Maialino

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                Maialino
                2 Lexington Avenue, New York, NY 10010

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                  fm1963 Feb 10, 2011 06:18 AM

                  All noteworthy restaurants have their proponents and detractors, so consistent reviews are a rare thing on Chowhound. It might help to let us know which restaurants you enjoyed in previous visits so that we can get an idea of your likes and dislikes.

                  That said, here are some restaurants that I routinely recommend to visitors:

                  Aldea
                  Casa Mono
                  Lincoln
                  Marea
                  Ma Peche
                  Babbo
                  Osteria Morini
                  Picholine
                  Corton
                  Jean Georges
                  The Modern

                  Le Bernardin is a great choice. I hope you enjoy your first time there.

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                  Babbo
                  110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

                  Casa Mono
                  52 Irving Place, New York, NY 10003

                  Le Bernardin
                  155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

                  Picholine
                  35 West 64th St., New York, NY 10023

                  Corton
                  239 West Broadway, New York, NY 10013

                  Marea
                  240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

                  Aldea
                  31 West 17th Street, New York, NY 10011

                  Ma Peche
                  15 W 56th St, New York, NY 10019

                  Osteria Morini
                  218 Lafayette St, New York, NY 10012

                  1. flueln Feb 10, 2011 06:13 AM

                    My sister and I had one of the best meals of our lives here. I had a gift certificate for dinner, with wine pairings, and every one was spot on (see my review posted on this site). If you can get in at this late date I recommend it highly. We liked Le Bernardin too. If you want something more exotic, I also can highly recommend The Firebird for an old Russian meal prepared with great skill and love - and don't forget to try their spiced honey vodka after dinner.

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                    Le Bernardin
                    155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

                    FireBird
                    365 West 46th Street, New York, NY 10036

                    Allegretti
                    46 West 22nd Street, New York, NY 10010

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                    1. re: flueln
                      flueln Feb 10, 2011 06:19 AM

                      Bummer. Chowhound says Allegretti is closed. Well you can still try Firebird. I have a breakfast recommendation, too. Go to Brasserie Pigalle (corner 48th and 8th). Great breakfast stuff, and HUGE cups of Caffe Mocha.

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                      Pigalle
                      790 8th Ave, New York, NY 10019

                      1. re: flueln
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                        Terriwth4 Feb 10, 2011 07:57 AM

                        Thanks for the extra info(breakfast etc) we will be there Thursday evening-Sunday so all other suggestions welcome. Read on CH board re: Momofuku Milk Bar, Levain Bakery and are looking forward to checking them out

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                        Levain Bakery
                        167 W 74th St, New York, NY 10023

                        Momofuku Milk Bar
                        15 W 56th St, New York, NY 10019

                        1. re: flueln
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                          fm1963 Feb 10, 2011 10:43 AM

                          I believe Alain Allegretti is now at La Petite Maison.

                          http://newyork.grubstreet.com/2010/11...

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                          La Petite Maison
                          13 W 54th St, New York, NY 10019

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