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Feb 7, 2011 12:39 PM

Help! Overwhelmed by Sonoma/Napa Information

We are off to Napa/Sonoma next weekend with SIL. I have been to Napa many times for wine tasting. This time I wanted to try Sonoma. We are staying at the Silverado. I have been researching the board and I am having a hard time finding recs for Sonoma Wineries that aren't totally spread out all over the place.

I realize Sonoma is a large place, so to narrow it down, we were looking to stay around the Glen Ellen, Boyle Hot Springs area due to driving distance from hotel. We love Zinfandel, Pinot Noir, Sav Blanc, Cab. Our favorite wine area is Paso Robles. I came a across a few names:

Gundlach Bundschu
Valley of the Moon

Also, please help me narrow down some dinner choices. We love adventurous food, my SIL and fam not so much. They are from Ohio and more steak/potato types. Hoping to find a place to please all.

Here is what I have narrowed down to:
Jole (although drive might be too far)

Any help with wineries/food is greatly appreciated!

6534 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 94599

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  1. would definitely recommend gundlach bundschau, valley of the moon not so much. it's more for italian wines, but i always enjoy stopping off at Jacuzzi.

    bouchon and redd will likely not please steak/potato types; even if bouchon may have the best steak frites around, they will be shocked at the price ($34.50).

    They will mostly find all of those restaruants to be way too fancy.

    Instead, I would recommend Rutherford Grille. It's not incredibly adventurous, but the food is all very well-executed, and on top, there's no corkage. Definitely need to make a reservation though. For a little bit more adventurous, you could try Fig Cafe.

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    1. re: vulber

      Thanks for the info! Although my fam are steak/potato lovers, they do like fancy places. So we are not opposed to that! Part of the issue is my SIL is allergic to shellfish. So that narrows her choices quite a bit. Since it is a weekend getaway, price isn't a huge factor. Although we aren't looking at the French Laundry level.

      I saw Fig cafe, I was thinking that might be a good lunch option. For dinner we prefer to stay closer to our hotel, on the Napa side.

      The French Laundry
      6640 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 94599

      1. re: CarlieInLA

        Your family will definitely like Ad Hoc. It's basically comfort food, with a Thomas Keller twist, so it's a little fancy, and with top ingredients, but still fried chicken or barbeque, etc.

        Ad Hoc
        6476 Washington St., Yountville, CA 94599

        1. re: JasmineG

          Thanks Jasmine. I thought about that, but with a seafood allergy, a tasting menu option only probably won't work.

          Has anyone been to Oenotri? How is that place?

          1425 1st St, Napa, CA 94559

          1. re: CarlieInLA

            Actually, the reverse. When you reserve and mention the allergy, you know you'll be getting dishes especially created and designed for you. Different from a fixed menu like chez pannisse downstairs, where they simply won't make modifications.

            1. re: CarlieInLA

              Exactly what bbulkow said below, they're great with substitutions at Ad Hoc (even down to the cheeses, I went with a pregnant friend once and they brought a different cheese for the cheese plate that worked better for her needs). I'd make the reservation and mention the allergy, they'll accommodate her just fine.

              Ad Hoc
              6476 Washington St., Yountville, CA 94599

              1. re: JasmineG

                Thanks all, but as I mentioned in my original post, we have some picky eaters. They don't like mushrooms, tomatoes, eggplant, ect. A pre-fix is not going to work for us.

                I think I have narrowed down to :

                Any feedback on those specific restaurants?

                Also any recs for Sonoma wineries please???

                1425 1st St, Napa, CA 94559

      2. The website of the SF Chronicle (www.sfgate.com) maintains a list of wineries that is sortable by location and other parameters. If nothing else, it is a good resource for general information.

        Here is a link to the roster of wineries within a 10-15 miles radius of the town of Sonoma:


        If you are willing to make the drive, the Dry Creek Valley, west of Healdsburg, is an excellent place for winery touring. For starters, it is a beautiful spot. You will also find a significant number of wineries there, all within about 5 miles of each other.

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        1. re: DavidT

          Here is a link to the website for Dry Creek Valley wineries:


          1. re: DavidT

            Dry Creek is a hike from Napa but it is where you need to be for the best local Zins. Head south on Westside Road along the Russian River for some of the best local Pinots.

            I personally like Wilson on Dry Creek Road. Seghesio is another great Zin-ery. The really good Pinots can be hard to come by since most are sold via list only. Some places will do private tastings if you call ahead (and buy). Think Rochioli, Dehlinger, William-Selyem, etc.

          2. re: DavidT

            Dry Creek is great, but there are more good wineries in the immediate environs of Glen Ellen than anyone could taste through in one weekend. There's no no reason to schlep all the way to Healdsburg. Here's a pretty comprehensive map of Sonoma wineries, as you can see there are 30 or so in the Glen Ellen / Kenwood area.


          3. Wellington's my favorite in the Glen Ellen area. Arrowood, Coturri, Kunde, and Sky might be to your taste. The Family Wineries tasting room in Kenwood is a convenient way to taste a lot of stuff without having to drive around.

            Vineyards Inn, while off the tourist radar and drawing mostly a local crowd, is a great restaurant for both adventurous and timid eaters. We were staying nearby last summer and ended up eating there three nights in a row.


            For breakfast or lunch on the way too or from Glen Ellen, Fremont Diner (just the other side of Sonoma) is hard to beat.

            Family Wineries Kenwood
            9380 Sonoma Highway, Kenwood, CA 95452

            Wellington Vineyards
            11600 Dunbar Rd Glen, Ellen, CA

            Fremont Diner
            2660 Fremont Dr, Sonoma, CA

            Vineyards Inn
            8445 Sonoma Hwy, Kenwood, CA 95452

            1. If you are tasting in Sonoma, why are you going all the way over to Napa for meals? There are lots of stellar restaurants in Sonoma County. It all depends upon where you're staying.

              I can recommend Mosaic, Zin, Willi's Wine Bar, Zazu's

              and I think you'd enjoy tasting at Iron Horse. They're famous for their sparkling wines, but also make a delicious like of still wines that mostly fly under the radar.

              Ridge Lytton Springs is famous for Zinfandels. And I'm a huge fan of Silver Oak - the Sonoma branch.

              Sonoma Pinot Noirs are largely not nearly as fruit forward as those from Paso, so you may not care a lot for them. However, my personal favorites are made at Vision Cellars in Forestville. And those folks are a most congenial lot. They love visitors.

              Willi's Wine Bar
              4404 Old Redwood Hwy, Santa Rosa, CA 95403

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              1. re: ChefJune

                Willi's is great, but there's really no need to drive that far. There's plenty within five miles of Glen Ellen to keep you busy all weekend. And, seriously, if you're staying in that area, Vineyards Inn is a must.


                Olive & Vine
                14301 Arnold Dr Ste 3, Glen Ellen, CA 95442

                Kenwood Restaurant
                9900 Sonoma Hwy, Kenwood, CA 95452

                Cafe Citti
                9047 Sonoma Hwy, Kenwood, CA 95452

                Doce Lunas
                8910 Sonoma Hwy, Kenwood, CA

                Sante Restaurant
                100 Boyes Blvd, Sonoma, CA

                El Molino Central
                11 Central Avenue, Boyes Hot Springs, CA 95476

                1. re: ChefJune

                  Mosaic is no more.

                  Mosaic Restaurant
                  6675 Front Street, Forestville, CA 95436

                2. Gundlach Bundschu
                  Buena Vista
                  Gloria Ferrar
                  Viansa - not my favorite, but close to Gloria Ferrar

                  These are all on an easy route in Carneros/Sonoma and Fremont Diner is nearby for one of your meals

                  In Sonoma/Kenwood my guests usually enjoy
                  Chateau St Jean
                  Mayo Family for tasting (food pairing need to reserve)
                  Jack London State Park is nice for a stroll too, usually see wild turkeys and plenty of quail.


                  Chateau St Jean
                  8555 Sonoma Hwy, Kenwood, CA

                  Fremont Diner
                  2660 Fremont Dr, Sonoma, CA

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                  1. re: myst

                    Have you had good wine from Viansa recently? To me it's more of a gift shop / deli / tourist trap. In that area I'd rather Schug or Cline (kind of a tourist trap, but they do make some good wines).

                    1. re: Robert Lauriston

                      Viansa is not one I personally enjoy (I grew up in Sonoma) but it is close by and I often have visitors wanting to go there....I think it is on the bus route.

                      Many of the places I like are not much "fun". Milat, Seqouia Grove etc...
                      I also like Cline wines...

                      But it reminds me how much visitors rave about V. Sattui, somewhere that locals never go.....

                      1. re: myst

                        We do not want to go on the bus route!! Please let me know about good wines, we don't really care about the gift shop. V. Sattui is my worst nightmare.

                        1. re: CarlieInLA

                          Yes, then skip Viansa. But the other Carneros wineries are worth the trip. Sometimes it is hard to gauge whether visitors want "an experience", amazing views, neat buildings, or just the wine.....

                          When I have guests I try to mix it up so they get a little of each...and some good wine wineries have you tastes wines so young that you can't really appreciate them in a tasting anyway......

                          1. re: myst

                            Viansa has changed a lot since the "old" days when it was really Vicki and Sam. We used to love it. :(

                            Sharp Cellars in Sonoma makes some memorable Zinfandel, and also delicious sausages. Flies a bit under the radar. http://www.sharpcellars.com/