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boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 07:01 AM

Me and a couple of buddies (3 guys and a baby - funny huh?) need some ideas on what to do during the day (Sun\Mon) while our wives work til about 5pm. We will be in NYC from 2/12-2/17 staying at the Parker Le Meridien.

Was thinking of places to have lunch and maybe a couple of beers:
The Spotted Pig
Katz's Deli
Angelos Pizza

But what to do before\after? Would it be better to go Times Square area for lunch? Was hoping to find a NYC brewery to check out so does Heartland do tours? Just need something semi-baby friendly.

On Tues-Thurs we will be with the girls doing the Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island, Today Show, SoHo shopping, Empire State building, etc...

Any ideas are appreciated.

Thanks!

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Spotted Pig
314 W 11th St, New York, NY 10014

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    msny98 RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 07:23 AM

    Your first 3 picks are pretty good.... and then you mentioned Times Sq for lunch and it shot your average down. If you're tourists who need to see Times Sq (understandable.) have a walk through it on your way to a good place for lunch or after lunch at The Burger Joint which is in the Parker Meridian lobby (behind the curtain) The Heartland Brewery has a location on 6th and about 52nd or so. I prefer the one in Union Square though

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    Katz's Delicatessen
    205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

    Burger Joint
    118 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019

    Angelo's Pizza
    117 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019

    Heartland Brewery
    35 Union Square W, New York, NY 10003

    1. melpy RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 07:34 AM

      Definitely don't go to Times Sq. just to eat. All you have is a bunch of chains that you can get anywhere and a bunch of tourist traps. I second the walk through stop in any stores you may want and get out!

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        boltsfan RE: melpy Feb 4, 2011 07:45 AM

        Yes, we are tourists from CA. Figured that would be the response on lunch in Times Square. We'll do as suggested... go for lunch somewhere similar to what I mentioned, then do a walk through on TS.

        Thanks!

      2. princeofpork RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 07:45 AM

        Forget Heartland as the food is awful and the beer is just OK. As the baby will not really care where you are I would suggest maybe Hill Country for some BBQ and Beers. Rodeo Bar on 29 and 3rd is very kid friendly and no one will care if the baby crys.

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        Hill Country
        30 W 26th St, New York, NY 10010

        Rodeo Bar
        375 3rd Ave, New York, NY 10016

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          boltsfan RE: princeofpork Feb 4, 2011 11:42 AM

          Thank you for the info. We are gonna check out Blue Smoke one night for dinner so prefer to not eat for lunch as well.

          I had heard the food at Heartland was actually ok so I am surprised. Just wanted to check out a local brewery when in town that had food and where we could hang out for a long lunch with the baby. Being walking proximity to other "tourist" stuff is a plus so we don't have to take cabs all over.

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          Blue Smoke
          116 East 27th Street, New York, NY 10016

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            Pan RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 05:26 PM

            princeofpork is right. Heartland is very bad. Don't go there.

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            reatard RE: princeofpork Feb 4, 2011 12:10 PM

            The problem with Rodeo Bar is the food is pretty bad. I like my food well salted and the food at Rodeo was too salty for me.

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              psawce23 RE: princeofpork Feb 4, 2011 07:50 PM

              I second Hill Country. I live right around the corner from Rodeo Bar. The food is truly awful.

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              Hill Country
              30 W 26th St, New York, NY 10010

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              Riverman500 RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 07:45 AM

              From Times Square you could also stroll down to Keens (steak, burgers), Txikito (tapas), or Co. (pizza).

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              Keens
              72 West 36th St., New York, NY 10018

              Txikito
              240 9th Ave, New York, NY 10001

              Co.
              230 9th Ave, New York, NY 10001

              Bagels & Co.
              393 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

              1. loratliff RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 09:59 AM

                Definitely go to the Spotted Pig and get that burger. All the places you mentioned are decent, but the Pig is the best. Katz's would be my second choice.

                The Brooklyn Brewery does tours, if you're willing to hop the river.

                (Oh, and since you're staying a Le Parker Meridien, you definitely need to have a burger from Burger Joint, within the hotel itself.)

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                Burger Joint
                118 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019

                Spotted Pig
                314 W 11th St, New York, NY 10014

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                  kathryn RE: loratliff Feb 5, 2011 11:48 AM

                  Post-Spotted Pig, you could also hit up the Blind Tiger, too. Much quieter in the afternoons than at night.

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                  Blind Tiger
                  281 Bleecker St, New York, NY 10014

                2. MVNYC RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 10:33 AM

                  On Sunday you can tour the BRooklyn Brewery and beers are pretty cheap. It is one stop into Brooklyn on the L train. Very easy to get to and a good way to spend the afternoon.

                  Alternatively if you want Pastrami, you can get it to go and head up a couple of blocks to DBA. A good beer bar that does not serve food so you can bring in the sandwiches. They have a good selection of craft beer there. Sixpoint and Captain Lawrence are the two excellent local breweries to try. Also close to Russ and Daughters if you want a whole feast of Lower East Side old time food.

                  Wandering around the Lower East Side and Chinatown seems a lot more interesting than TImes Square which you will probably see with your wives anyway.

                  Heartland brewery basically sucks. Coming from a great beer town like San Diego you won't like it either.

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                  d.b.a.
                  41 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

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                    c oliver RE: MVNYC Feb 4, 2011 11:00 AM

                    Can a baby be taken into a bar that serves no food?

                    Re Katz's the ambiance (of lack thereof) doesn't lend itself, IMO, to sitting around having a few beers with lunch. It's all about the food. Eat and leave :) Others may feel differently.

                    Also there's a ton of info about Chinese restaurants and they're always child-friendly. Yes, we have great Chinese food in CA but so does NYC. Arthur Avenue in the Bronx is great also.

                    ETA: You'll find info on the Bronx on the Outer Boroughs board. Ooh, and Flushing!

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                      MVNYC RE: c oliver Feb 4, 2011 11:09 AM

                      Yes, I have been with someone with a baby recently on a Sunday afternoon. Nice relaxed atmosphere.

                      Your reasoning with Katz is why I suggested taking the sandwiches over to DBA.

                      Also see the last post in this thread

                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/750143

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                        princeofpork RE: c oliver Feb 4, 2011 02:45 PM

                        If the baby is small enough to stay in the stroller sleeping and not wander around the place you can take a baby anywhere.

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                          boltsfan RE: princeofpork Feb 4, 2011 05:09 PM

                          Yes... the baby is only 10 months old.

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                            princeofpork RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 05:21 PM

                            At 10 months old, every place in NYC except maybe Per Se is acceptable

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                            Per Se
                            10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

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                              yebo RE: princeofpork May 7, 2011 04:53 AM

                              La Grenouille is explicit about not young childen.

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                              La Grenouille
                              3 East 52nd Street, New York, NY 10022

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                        ml77 RE: MVNYC Feb 4, 2011 11:10 AM

                        I went to the tour Brooklyn Brewery in December and there was basically no tour due to the expansion of the brewery. We stood at the door to the brewery and looked at what was a construction site while hearing about the Brewery. Their website says that this is still the case, so I'd look elsewhere.

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                          MVNYC RE: ml77 Feb 4, 2011 11:12 AM

                          Did they still have the happy hour?

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                            ml77 RE: MVNYC Feb 5, 2011 08:24 PM

                            IDK, I was there on the weekend. Website says that they have happy hour on Friday evenings.

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                          boltsfan RE: MVNYC Feb 4, 2011 11:37 AM

                          Thanks for letting me know that Heartland sucks. We are definitely spoiled in SD with great craft beer (Stone, Green Flash, Ballast Point, Port Brewing, etc...). Is the food really that bad at all Heartland locations?

                          Definitely want to go to Katz's deli but sounds like it is not a place to hang out at. Is there a place close to Katz's to grab a craft beer?

                          Will definitely go to the Spotted Pig for the burger.

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                          Spotted Pig
                          314 W 11th St, New York, NY 10014

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                            Silverjay RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 12:20 PM

                            Spitzer's Corner is a nice gastropub near Katz's. They have a very good craft beer selection. You wouldn't be able to bring food in, but it would make a nice stop afterwards and it's in the Lower East Side, a nice historic neighborhood. Economy Candy, worth a pop in and walkaround at least, is nearby as well.

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                            Spitzer's Corner
                            101 Rivington St, New York, NY 10002

                            Economy Candy
                            108 Rivington St, New York, NY 10002

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                              loratliff RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 12:49 PM

                              Jimmy's No. 43 isn't too far from Katz's and has a very good beer selection. Twelve on tap, and 25+ bottles, usually. Since it's a restaurant too, the baby shouldn't be an issue.

                              If you do escape from the baby one night, you owe it to yourself to check out 124 Old Rabbit Club. Really impressive selection of craft beers.

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                              Jimmy's No. 43
                              43 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

                              124 Old Rabbit Club
                              124 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

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                                MVNYC RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 08:58 PM

                                I lived near the Solana Beach Pizza Port for a while so I know and love the San Diego beer scene. Avoid Heartland. As I said earlier about Katz, you can get some sandwiches there to go and walk two blocks to DBA and eat them there. Since they don't serve food you can just bring food in and eat it there.

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                              redfish62 RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 12:52 PM

                              Heard good things about Scores but apparently it is easy to drop a lot of money there.

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                                princeofpork RE: redfish62 Feb 4, 2011 02:47 PM

                                Funny, taking a baby into Scores would certainly not win you father of the year however you would get a ton of attention fro the girls question is what would you do with the baby when you went in to the VIP room.

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                                psawce23 RE: boltsfan Feb 4, 2011 07:53 PM

                                stay away from times square for food. heartland brewery - forget that too. brooklyn brewery in williamsburg is great.

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                                  boltsfan RE: boltsfan Feb 5, 2011 05:45 AM

                                  Thanks everyone for the info... we will not be going to Heartland. So happy I asked...

                                  Will try to make it to Brooklyn Brewery.

                                  Have a great weekend.

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                                    kathryn RE: boltsfan Feb 5, 2011 11:48 AM

                                    Definitely call ahead to Brooklyn Brewery to ask about tours. They might not be doing them at all right now. Or they might only be doing them on weekends.

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                                      ml77 RE: kathryn Feb 5, 2011 08:26 PM

                                      BB website says that tours are being given on Sat and Sun, but as I noted above, the tour is limited to nonexistent due to the ongoing construction.

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                                        boltsfan RE: ml77 Feb 7, 2011 07:28 AM

                                        I plan to call BB today to see what the modified weekend brewery tour will entail. Not sure they will be cool with a baby on the tour but we'll see.

                                        Do they do tastings after the tour? Is there a place to sit down and have a beer? Guess calling and asking is the best way to find out.

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                                          MVNYC RE: boltsfan Feb 7, 2011 09:16 AM

                                          There is an area for beers. Most people come for this rather than the tour. Also they do not have food either but you can order in anything from nearby

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                                            boltsfan RE: MVNYC Feb 8, 2011 07:06 AM

                                            Ok... thanks for the info on BB.

                                            We plan to go The Spotted Pig on Sunday for lunch. Looks like they open at 11am for brunch and I assume we can get the burger (or full menu) for brunch?

                                            How early would you suggest getting to the Pig to ensure we get a table (3 and a baby) when they open?

                                            Our semi-plan is to cab it over to Washington Square first to walk around then walk to the pub for lunch. Then maybe walk "somewhere" after for a while. Any suggestions?

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                                            Spotted Pig
                                            314 W 11th St, New York, NY 10014

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                                              ml77 RE: boltsfan Feb 8, 2011 10:30 AM

                                              If it's not too cold or windy, I'd head to the High Line after Spotted Pig. It's a unique public park created on the site of an old elevated train line.

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                                              Spotted Pig
                                              314 W 11th St, New York, NY 10014

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                                                loratliff RE: boltsfan Feb 8, 2011 11:26 AM

                                                The burger is on the brunch menu. As far as what time to get there, do you want to drink? If so, you should get there around 11:30 a.m. and expect to wait about 30-45 minutes. Alcohol isn't served before noon on Sunday, so brunch is typically slower until after 11:30 a.m.

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                                                  boltsfan RE: loratliff Feb 8, 2011 01:18 PM

                                                  Yes, we definitely want to drink. Why don't they serve alcohol til 12pm?

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                                                    ESNY RE: boltsfan Feb 8, 2011 01:21 PM

                                                    NY law. Technically you can't sell alcohol before noon on Sunday, not that some places don't ignore the law.

                                    2. Motosport RE: boltsfan Feb 8, 2011 12:36 PM

                                      Some interesting things to do:
                                      Tenement museum & you can hit Katz's before or after
                                      Take a walk over the Brooklyn bridge if the weather permits and have lunch @ Junior's or one of the Middle Eastern places on Atlantic Ave, Tripoli is my favorite.
                                      Take a walk over the Wlliamsburgh bridge and check out some places on the Brooklyn side.

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                                        boltsfan RE: Motosport Feb 8, 2011 01:18 PM

                                        Thanks for the tips. Much appreciated!

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