HOME > Chowhound > Australia/New Zealand >

Aussie Meat Pie

g
Gmaine Feb 2, 2011 06:49 PM

Loved, loved, loved the meat pies on my visit to Melbourne. Is it possible to reproduce that great flavor from a home kitchen here in the US? Any recipes, tips you would be willing to share?

  1. Click to Upload a photo (10 MB limit)
Delete
  1. m
    mr_gimlet RE: Gmaine Feb 2, 2011 09:34 PM

    Where did you have a meat pie?

    13 Replies
    1. re: mr_gimlet
      g
      Gmaine RE: mr_gimlet Feb 5, 2011 05:28 PM

      Just about anywhere I could find them; grocery store, pub, pie shop etc.

      1. re: Gmaine
        PhilD RE: Gmaine Feb 6, 2011 02:47 PM

        It is a tricky one. I suspect the secret of the pie is to not try to go too gourmet, so relatively cheap beef that is slow cooked, probably corn starch as a thickener so that the pastry doesn't go soggy and some pre-made supermarket pastry. So no garlic, herbs or spices, probably just a bit of salt and pepper.

        There are some "gourmet" pies in Australia which can be very good, but like a hot dog from a NYC cart the secret of a classic pie is to keep it simple, the more market you take it the less "real" it becomes.

        1. re: PhilD
          g
          Gmaine RE: PhilD Feb 8, 2011 06:25 PM

          Thanks for the advise Phil. I do add Vegemite to mine, just gives it that "kick" that it needs. No problem with the "cheap beef", I found when I made it with "lean" beef it just didn't taste as good, guess you need that fat.

          1. re: Gmaine
            k
            klyeoh RE: Gmaine Feb 9, 2011 03:47 PM

            Vegemite in your Aussie meatpie? That's interesting :-)

            1. re: klyeoh
              g
              Gmaine RE: klyeoh Feb 9, 2011 09:23 PM

              No Vegemite klyeoh? Tell me more.

              1. re: Gmaine
                k
                klyeoh RE: Gmaine Feb 9, 2011 11:57 PM

                No, it's just that I'd never had Vegemite in pies before - I liked mine with tomato ketchup on top of the pie.

                To me, at least, Vegemite is a sandwich spread. Since I spent all my schooling & college years in Western Australia, Vegemite tends to remind me of boarding school refectory breakfasts. Eeks :-D

                That said, I absolutely LOVE Aussie meatpies - had them for lunch almost everyday whence in university. But no, never heard of Vegemite in pies as yet. Maybe I should try it.

                1. re: klyeoh
                  PhilD RE: klyeoh Feb 10, 2011 02:29 AM

                  In the UK we often used Bovril or Marmite in beef stews to add depth. I assume Vegemite works in the same way?

                  1. re: PhilD
                    TheHuntress RE: PhilD Feb 10, 2011 02:39 AM

                    Yep, I believe vegemite is added for depth of flavour as well as depth of colour.

                    1. re: PhilD
                      k
                      klyeoh RE: PhilD Feb 10, 2011 03:38 AM

                      Yes, it should - although Vegemite is waaay saltier than Bovril and Marmite.

                    2. re: klyeoh
                      r
                      redips RE: klyeoh Feb 10, 2011 02:47 AM

                      If you've had a meat pie in Australia, chances are you've had vegemite in your pie. Its supposed to be the 'secret' ingredient in a proper recipe. Oh... how I miss meat pies.

                      1. re: redips
                        k
                        klyeoh RE: redips Feb 10, 2011 03:38 AM

                        Quite likely, come to think of it. Most folks would say the only seasoning they put into meatpie filling are salt, pepper and the "anonymous" dried herbs.

              2. re: PhilD
                r
                redips RE: PhilD Feb 10, 2011 03:03 AM

                Phil, can you suggest a good pre-made pastry? The aussies use a short crust as a base, which I have yet to find here stateside. The only way I can recreate is to make by hand and then top with puff-pastry.

                1. re: redips
                  PhilD RE: redips Feb 10, 2011 03:23 AM

                  Sorry can't help - I am in Hong Kong. Here is a recipe though:
                  http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/8984/...

          2. g
            Gmaine RE: Gmaine Feb 10, 2011 05:36 AM

            I’ve found recipes for meat pies that call for Vegemite and some that don’t. The recipe I use was sent to me by my daughter-in-law in AU, which includes Vegemite. I must confess I haven’t really made a “pie” (with the short crust/puff pastry) as yet; I have just been experimenting with the filling. I want to make a pie you can hold in your hand and eat, like the ones from takeout shops. So far even though my filling is very good it is not the right consistency for a hand held pie.

            8 Replies
            1. re: Gmaine
              kersizm RE: Gmaine Feb 10, 2011 08:19 PM

              More cornflour!

              1. re: Gmaine
                j
                Jojo9 RE: Gmaine Feb 11, 2011 06:17 PM

                I just make a basic beef casserole (mirepoix, tomato paste, cubed shin beef or chuck steak, salt and pepper with a little stock), slow cooked and then bung it in a pie crust, sometimes topped with mashed potatoes like cottage pie...mmm...

                Don't use too much cornflour/ corn starch - it'll be like paste! Blurgh!

                1. re: Jojo9
                  kersizm RE: Jojo9 Feb 11, 2011 10:21 PM

                  Understood but if Gmaine wants it to be like a shop bought pie, it will need cornflour.

                  1. re: kersizm
                    j
                    Jojo9 RE: kersizm Feb 12, 2011 02:07 AM

                    Agreed, but if you're not sure of quantities, add only a little at a time or you'll be eating the gravy with a fork.

                    I once had a not-so-pleasant experience with a pie I was given...

                    1. re: kersizm
                      g
                      Gmaine RE: kersizm Feb 12, 2011 05:57 AM

                      I will try more cornstarch (cornflour) and I'll be sure to add it a little at a time.

                    2. re: Jojo9
                      g
                      Gmaine RE: Jojo9 Feb 12, 2011 06:04 AM

                      I'll give this a try. When you say "slow cooked" do you mean in a slow cooker?

                      1. re: Gmaine
                        j
                        Jojo9 RE: Gmaine Feb 12, 2011 04:41 PM

                        I've cooked it in a slow cooker and also on the stove top on a low simmer (anything from 2 1/2 to 4 hours). You'd use less liquid and oil/ fat in a slow cooker than you would on the stove top. It just depends what easiest for you.

                        If I've got the time to be there and check on things, I prefer to cook it in a pot on the stove so I can adjust it as I need to. I think it also tastes richer as the gravy can reduce down a bit.

                        If you so use a slow cooker, you can just leave the lid off (and stir occasionally) for the last 20 minutes to reduce the liquid.

                        Please let us know how it turns out, Gmaine!

                        1. re: Jojo9
                          g
                          Gmaine RE: Jojo9 Feb 12, 2011 09:14 PM

                          Thanks Jojo9. It will be awhile before I have any cooking time again but first chance I get I'm going to give it a try. I think I like the stove top method, there is just something about a simmering pot on the stove that I enjoy. Will definitely let you know how it turns out!
                          Cheers...........

                  2. m
                    mjbc RE: Gmaine Feb 12, 2011 01:02 AM

                    A more gourmet version and you can do without the mushrooms, but very good, see ink

                    http://gourmettraveller.com.au/beef_m...

                    Show Hidden Posts