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Herbs in desserts?

ipsedixit Jan 28, 2011 11:31 AM

I use basil and mint in desserts, most often in ice cream, cookies and crepes.

Do you use herbs in your desserts? If so, which ones and how?

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  1. staple RE: ipsedixit Jan 28, 2011 11:37 AM

    Rosemary and lemon is a nice combo for muffins, breads, etc. I've made lemon-thyme cookies before and people loved that they couldn't identify it immediately.

    I wonder if cilantro can be used in desserts...

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      Jay F RE: staple Mar 19, 2011 01:19 PM

      There's a chocolate shop I go to that sells gelato and sorbet, including a cilantro-lime sorbet. It is wonderful. I make special trips when I'm in the neighborhood.


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        buttertart RE: Jay F Mar 20, 2011 05:25 AM

        That sounds sublime, lucky you.

    2. chefathome RE: ipsedixit Jan 28, 2011 11:37 AM

      Often! Basil in sorbet and gelee and with blackberries on pavlova, lemon thyme in simple syrup sauce, mint in panna cotta and fruit fools, lemon verbena in lemon olive oil cake, lavender in shortbread...

      EDIT - I forgot the rosemary chocolate sauce I make for either savoury dishes (i.e. braised short ribs) or for ganache, truffles and so on. I also use rosemary in citrus drinks (although drinks are not so much a dessert). I make rosemary preserves of all kinds including nectarine rosemary jelly.

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        Chowrin RE: ipsedixit Jan 28, 2011 11:38 AM

        over at Tigers and strawberries, the chef in black has a recipe for szechuan peppercorn cookies.

        1. eight_inch_pestle RE: ipsedixit Jan 28, 2011 11:39 AM

          Mostly as you do, although I also love rosemary in dessert. Made a rosemary, honey, and pistachio ice cream last summer that was killer. Sometimes I'll steep a little basil or mint or rosemary in cream the night before whipping cream for a nice dessert. And there's a nice and dead-simple upside down pear rosemary cake in _The Herbal Kitchen_.

          Oh, herbed cream is also great in little chocolate pots.

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            staple RE: eight_inch_pestle Jan 28, 2011 11:45 AM

            Ooooh... steeping basil, mint, or rosemary in cream is a great idea! Never thought of that. Thanks for the idea.

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            escondido123 RE: ipsedixit Jan 28, 2011 11:41 AM

            I have had lavender in a couple desserts and found it to taste like soap--especially the whipped cream.

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              mamachef RE: escondido123 Jan 28, 2011 12:26 PM

              I was going to say, I've had lavender panna cotta. It was exceptionally well-made because I don't like lavender, and I loved this. (Before anybody asks why I ordered a flavor I don't like, I DIDN'T - it was comped due to a kitchen error on entrees.)
              I've also had cayenne ice cream, and if ginger counts ( I know, it's a rhizome), I've had a white chocolate/ginger mousse that was great.
              My sister the uncook added tarragon to sugar cookies once, and they were completely inedible, but it also had something to do with the cookies themselves.
              Does weed count as an herb to you? Couple of years ago I was gifted with a choco/mint brownie and plowed through it, marvelling that I couldn't taste the cannabis. However. I sure felt it a couple hours later.................zzzzzzzzzzzz........drooool........

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                eight_inch_pestle RE: mamachef Jan 28, 2011 12:30 PM

                Best. mamachef. post. ever.

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                  mamachef RE: eight_inch_pestle Jan 29, 2011 10:43 AM

                  : )

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                  bushwickgirl RE: mamachef Jan 28, 2011 03:32 PM

                  Heheheheh, snort, zzzzzzzzzzzz.

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                    mariacarmen RE: mamachef Jan 28, 2011 11:04 PM

                    ahahahahaha! that's my girl.

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                      buttertart RE: mamachef Jan 30, 2011 07:22 AM

                      Ah the Bay Area. Ran into unannounced altered brownies at a party, only kicked in later, almost went facedown into the pizza I was eating. Molasses-spice cookies hide the flavor better than brownies, or so i'm told.

                    2. re: escondido123
                      wekick RE: escondido123 Jan 28, 2011 02:27 PM

                      I think it takes a really light hand. It is hard in some ways to judge the amount. I have heard of people using the flower, and I always thought you would use the leaf. I made some poundcake with a small amount of fresh lavender leaves and it was pretty good. It was very subtle. I think fresh is easier to use than dried.

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                        thursday RE: wekick Jan 29, 2011 11:00 AM

                        I make a lavender pound cake almost every Easter with the dried flowers - it's delicious and subtle.

                    3. Caitlin McGrath RE: ipsedixit Jan 28, 2011 11:50 AM

                      I agree with others that rosemary is excellent in baked goods, especially shortbread cookies, with or without lemon zest. I have also made an olive oil cake with rosemary and bittersweet chocolate chunks that was exceptionally good - the flavors worked perfectly together.

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                        ipsedixit RE: Caitlin McGrath Jan 28, 2011 11:57 AM

                        @eight_inch_pestle and Ms. McGrath.


                        [smacks forehead]

                        That's gonna be great in my next ice ream batch.

                      2. ttoommyy RE: ipsedixit Jan 28, 2011 12:31 PM

                        I always throw some chopped herbs in a summer berry salad. I just toss a mix of berries with a touch of sugar, lime juice and one of the following: basil, thyme, mint, rosemary, sage, oregano...whatever fresh herb I have on hand works for me.

                        1. CarrieWas218 RE: ipsedixit Jan 28, 2011 12:32 PM

                          The first thing that came to my mind was Rechutti's Tarragon Grapefruit candy piece that I love...

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                            Breezychow RE: ipsedixit Jan 28, 2011 12:36 PM

                            I'm not a big mint fan, but have used Lemon Verbena, Lemon Thyme, & Lavendar in dessert dishes. Also like candied ginger.

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                            1. re: Breezychow
                              karykat RE: Breezychow Jan 29, 2011 09:35 AM

                              We make a lemon verbena sorbet in summer.

                            2. VeggieHead RE: ipsedixit Jan 28, 2011 12:38 PM

                              I've used several varieties of basil... my favorite being cinnamon. I've used Lemon Balm, lemon verbana, kaffir lime, mint, lemon thyme, anise hyssop, sweet aztec, in various other deserts

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                                Breezychow RE: VeggieHead Jan 28, 2011 12:40 PM

                                Oh yes - forgot about Anice Hyssop. I use that one in tea & dessert applications as well.

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                                  bushwickgirl RE: Breezychow Jan 29, 2011 08:27 AM

                                  I like hyssop, an under utilized herb, imo. Bee Balm is another forgotten herb, fruity and minty, nice on fruit salads.

                                  Beyond tea, chamomile is nice in custards, creme anglaise and rice pudding. I infuse fired chamomile flowers and/or tea bags in the milk for cake batters, with orange or lemon zest.

                                  Although not herbs, scented geraniums are great for lining cake pans and for flavoring sugar, or just to sniff.

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                                    karykat RE: bushwickgirl Jan 29, 2011 09:39 AM

                                    I have some chamomile and have been meaning to make a syrup and put it over fruit.
                                    What would be a good combo with winter fruit? Bananas? Other thoughts?

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                                      Caitlin McGrath RE: karykat Jan 29, 2011 10:35 AM

                                      I think a chamomile syrup would be good with citrus - oranges and grapefruits.

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                                        bushwickgirl RE: Caitlin McGrath Jan 29, 2011 10:58 AM

                                        Exactly. Orange, lemon, grapefruit.

                                        Btw, I meant to type "dried," not fired, in my post up thread.

                                    2. re: bushwickgirl
                                      eight_inch_pestle RE: bushwickgirl Jan 29, 2011 02:35 PM

                                      I assume you fans of lemon verbena and anise hyssop grow your own? I never see either, even at the farmers markets.

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                                        bushwickgirl RE: eight_inch_pestle Jan 30, 2011 02:57 AM

                                        Yes, and Bee Balm also, home grown. I can't get the cut herbs but I can get the plants at my farmer's market.

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                                          eight_inch_pestle RE: bushwickgirl Jan 31, 2011 12:26 PM

                                          Hmm, building our first raised bed(s) this year. Maybe I'll give one of 'em a shot.

                                          1. re: eight_inch_pestle
                                            karykat RE: eight_inch_pestle Feb 2, 2011 01:07 PM

                                            Like I said, the anise hyssop will spread after a few years. Not a problem for me cause I love the stuff.

                                            The lemon verbena won't. At least in our zone.

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                                              bushwickgirl RE: karykat Feb 2, 2011 03:14 PM

                                              You can bring lemon verbena inside in the winter.

                                              1. re: bushwickgirl
                                                chefathome RE: bushwickgirl Feb 2, 2011 03:17 PM

                                                We definitely have to in our climate (plus our rosemary, thyme, etc.) but sadly it doesn't do that well being inside for 7-8 months. But it is so very lovely!! I love to go outside and crush the leaves between my fingers and inhale its aroma on a several-times-daily basis in summer! :-)

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                                                  bushwickgirl RE: chefathome Feb 2, 2011 03:55 PM

                                                  It does have a wonderful aroma, the best lemon scent of any herb I know. I winter over for 6 months, but it requires some attention, warmth and humidity. Usually it goes dormant and regrows in the Spring. So good.

                                        2. re: eight_inch_pestle
                                          karykat RE: eight_inch_pestle Jan 30, 2011 07:58 AM

                                          Yes. Both grow easily here in the north midwest. The lemon verbena is an annual, at least here, but the anise hyssop grows like a weed.

                                          1. re: karykat
                                            chefathome RE: karykat Jan 30, 2011 08:00 AM

                                            I grow between 18 to 20 varieties of herbs each year - all annual, including rosemary, which I must bring in the house for our long and cold winters (Alberta). The chives and garlic chives occasionally make it through.

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                                            VeggieHead RE: eight_inch_pestle Jan 30, 2011 02:51 PM

                                            I work on a farm that grows anything you can think of...plus many you prolly haven't. Our micro hyssop is a huge burst of licorice. Also a big han of the lovage and salad brunet.

                                          3. re: bushwickgirl
                                            buttertart RE: bushwickgirl Jan 30, 2011 07:24 AM

                                            Hyssop - is that the cucumbery one?
                                            My great-grandmother (died before I was born) used to put a leaf of rose geranium in her white cakes - put the stem in so the leaf sat on the surface. My mom said they were divine.

                                            1. re: buttertart
                                              karykat RE: buttertart Jan 30, 2011 07:59 AM

                                              Anise hyssop isn't cucumbery. It's more licorice-like.

                                              Are you thinking of lovage? Kind of celery-ish.

                                              If there's a cucumber-like one, I need to know about it.

                                              That white cake sounds fantastic. I've grown scented geraniums but then not found good uses for them.

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                                                bushwickgirl RE: karykat Jan 30, 2011 11:16 AM

                                                karykat, it's Salad Burnet with a decidedly cucumber flavor. Borage and Comfrey are considered to be cucumber flavored herbs also but not as pronounced in flavor as Burnet. All are good for salads, omelets, dips, mayo, tea, seafood preparations, flavored butters or vinegars, but alas, not desserts.

                                                I just love scented geraniums. They make good infused sugars and line your cake pan with a few rose or nutmeg scented leaves.

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                                                  buttertart RE: bushwickgirl Jan 30, 2011 03:50 PM

                                                  It was borage I was thinking of. My absolute favorite is chervil - but I don't see it in a dessert.

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                                                mamachef RE: buttertart Feb 7, 2011 06:23 AM

                                                Hey, I've got a recipe for that cake in the Buttr'y Cookbook. Anyone want it?

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                                              karykat RE: Breezychow Jan 29, 2011 09:36 AM

                                              I make a syrup with anise hyssop and put it over fruit in summer, especially peaches and nectarines. Think it probably has lots of other uses. I'd love more ideas. Because we have a really good supply of it.

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                                                chefathome RE: karykat Jan 29, 2011 09:41 AM

                                                The syrup would be amazing on pound or angel food cake or even pavlova.

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                                                  bushwickgirl RE: karykat Jan 29, 2011 11:07 AM

                                                  Here's a simple hyssop flavored sauce for, so the recipe states, lamb or veal, and I would think, nice with roast chicken:


                                                  More suggestions:


                                                  Any quick bread with a citrus flavoring, lemon for example, would be nice with the
                                                  addition of fresh chopped anise hyssop.

                                            3. Euonymous RE: ipsedixit Jan 28, 2011 01:00 PM

                                              Strawberries with freshly grated black pepper are awesome!

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                                                CarrieWas218 RE: Euonymous Jan 28, 2011 01:21 PM

                                                Technically, pepper is a spice - not an herb...

                                                Now if we are talking spices; I heartily recommend chili pepper and white pepper in brownies, cardamom in cupcakes, and Chinese five-spice in custard.

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                                                  staple RE: CarrieWas218 Jan 28, 2011 01:27 PM

                                                  Chinese five-spice in a custard?? That sounds super interesting!

                                              2. YAYME RE: ipsedixit Jan 29, 2011 03:24 AM

                                                Lavender and mint.

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                                                  kattyeyes RE: YAYME Jan 29, 2011 04:56 AM

                                                  Yes! Kickass combo for gelato. I dig lavender creme brulee, too. Lavender simple syrup for fancykat adult beverages and hot fun in the summertime!

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                                                    PoppiYYZ RE: kattyeyes Feb 2, 2011 01:18 PM

                                                    I second a touch of lavender in creme brulee - amazing. Lavender is also excellent in home made strawberry jam...

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                                                      kattyeyes RE: PoppiYYZ Feb 2, 2011 01:28 PM

                                                      Ooh, now there's a combo I hadn't thought of! Nice!

                                                2. c oliver RE: ipsedixit Jan 29, 2011 06:48 AM

                                                  I have a couple of recipes, one for biscotti , another for a polenta shortcake, that have fennel seed which is one of my favorite flavors.

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                                                    mamachef RE: c oliver Jan 29, 2011 06:50 AM

                                                    c oliver, would you mind posting the biscotti recipe? I love fennel.....sounds like those would be sooo good with a mug of tea....

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                                                      c oliver RE: mamachef Jan 29, 2011 07:40 AM

                                                      Argh! First three books I checked, I couldn't find. I WILL find it and post. I think I may have sent to a friend. Can't remember now if they had pistachio or pinenuts in them. I think it's time to sign up for EYB. I'm old, ya know.

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                                                        mamachef RE: c oliver Jan 29, 2011 07:43 AM

                                                        Thank you for checking! I'll look forward to it. Oh, and I'm pretty old too. for what it's worth.

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                                                        c oliver RE: mamachef Jan 30, 2011 10:41 AM

                                                        Found it! From Zuni Cafe, Cornmeal Biscotti. p. 478-479


                                                        I subbed the pinenuts but left in the anisette. Also this blogger's changes were unnecessary for me -- and I'm no baker. They were easy just the way she wrote the recipe.

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                                                          mamachef RE: c oliver Feb 7, 2011 06:24 AM

                                                          Thank you for taking trouble, c oliver. Appreciate it!

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                                                        karykat RE: c oliver Jan 29, 2011 09:37 AM

                                                        Mine too! Would love your fennel seed ideas.

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                                                          c oliver RE: karykat Jan 30, 2011 10:49 AM

                                                          This is Hazan's Essentials "Polenta Shortcake with Raisins, Dried Figs and Pine Nuts" (also fennel seeds!), pp. 590-591.


                                                          Because it was metric, I posted the below and got the conversions:


                                                          This is so good, esp. with Greek yogurt.

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                                                            karykat RE: c oliver Jan 30, 2011 11:16 AM

                                                            Sounds very good. Thanks.

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                                                        HillJ RE: ipsedixit Jan 29, 2011 09:04 AM

                                                        We love the use of lemongrass in desserts, clean and fresh. This pound cake is one example,

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                                                          chefathome RE: HillJ Jan 29, 2011 09:08 AM

                                                          Me, too. I make a wicked lemongrass syrup that I love to drizzle over pound cakes, angel food cakes and so on. I use so much lemongrass that I buy it nearly every week. As I asked our grocer to carry it I sort of almost feel obligated to continue buying it, too, and encourage my cooking class students to do the same! Not that I wouldn't purchase it, anyway, as lemongrass is one of my favourite things.

                                                          Dried lemongrass with sea salt and rosemary is a lovely seasoning for fish and shellfish.

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                                                            HillJ RE: chefathome Jan 29, 2011 09:15 AM

                                                            I couldn't agree more. Do you keep your lemongrass in the freezer? I find it an excellent way to keep it fresh and avail without drying out. Lemongrass syrup is delicious and would be excellent on this cake don't you think. Lemongrass tea is one of my favorites. I also like chocolates infused with lemongrass. Care to share a few specific recipes/uses for it. TIA.

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                                                              chefathome RE: HillJ Jan 29, 2011 09:33 AM

                                                              Whatever is left I keep in the freezer. Wow, that cake recipe looks gorgeous! I am going to make it tomorrow and cannot wait to try it. Lemongrass syrup would be absolutely delightful with this cake. Chocolate truffles with lemongrass are MMMMM! Will look up some of my favourite recipes to share...some of course are Thai but others not so much.

                                                              I find it incredible that lemongrass is so very cheap (25 cents for 2 or 3 stalks), so packed with flavour and so underused. I have the product code memorized to save the grocery store clerks' time at check out.

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                                                                karykat RE: chefathome Jan 29, 2011 09:38 AM

                                                                Yes. We need more lemongrass ideas! It's abundant in our farmers market in summer. And I still have a little left over.

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                                                                  chefathome RE: karykat Jan 29, 2011 09:39 AM

                                                                  Our growing season is far too short to grow it here but I sure would love to do so. I am astomished that our grocery store on the Canadian prairies carries such fresh and plump specimens!

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                                                                    HillJ RE: chefathome Jan 29, 2011 09:48 AM

                                                                    So far only the Asian market provides me with fresh lemongrass bundles. Lemongrass powder, which I use in cookies, soups, stews and tea is avail everywhere I shop-but the powder is NOT the same thing as fresh.

                                                                    I make homemade soap sometimes and lemongrass is marvelous for that purpose as well.

                                                                    chefathome, I look forward to reading your recipe suggestions. And with chocolate is one of my fav ways to enjoy dark chocolate sauce or candies.

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                                                                      chefathome RE: HillJ Jan 29, 2011 09:50 AM

                                                                      I haven't tried lemongrass powder but sounds as though I am definitely not missing anything! Have you bought the paste in the tube? I suppose it's sort of ok but still nothing like fresh. Am on my way to look for some recipes to post...would like to hear yours as well.

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                                                                        HillJ RE: chefathome Jan 29, 2011 09:53 AM

                                                                        I found the paste too watery and once opened the shelf life is short. I don't recommend it. Making your own paste is easy enough. Powder is smokey in comparison to the fresh & light scent of stalks. It has its place; just diff.

                                                                        I'll also get back to you on some desserts we've made with fresh.

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                                                                          chefathome RE: HillJ Jan 29, 2011 09:55 AM

                                                                          Yes - after trying that purchased paste the first time, that did it. Your own fresh paste is very easy and ultra delicious.

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                                                                            HillJ RE: chefathome Jan 29, 2011 10:10 AM

                                                                            Okay, donuts, churros, puff pastry all enhanced with lemongrass-sugar. And your lemongrass syrup is a natural...even a drizzle of dark chocolate. I happen to make some kick a** churros and the lemongrass-sugar takes them to a happy place.

                                                                            Lemongrass in shortbread cookies add a brightness that you would expect from say rosemary, but subtle.

                                                                            Lemongrass tea used as the liquid ingredient in sweet pastry dough.

                                                                            I like the flavor of molasses & lemongrass together in muffins.

                                                                            On the savory side lemongrass and sweet potato work very well together. Hmm, sweet potato/lg churros....kinda sounds like something I should work on..

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                                                                              chefathome RE: HillJ Jan 29, 2011 10:14 AM

                                                                              Lemongrass and molasses sounds like an awesome combination - have yet to try that.

                                                                              Lemongrass simple syrup with rosemary makes a nice sort of lemonade without the lemon! ;)

                                                                              Your ideas inspired me to start a new thread on lemongrass recipes. See you over there?! EDIT: I just did a quick search first and found lots of recipes and ideas already. So, I won't be starting a new thread after all!

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                                                                                HillJ RE: chefathome Jan 29, 2011 10:20 AM

                                                                                Good idea..there are plenty of recipes out there!

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                                                                                chefathome RE: HillJ Jan 29, 2011 10:22 AM

                                                                                One of my favourite savoury lemongrass recipes is Lemongrass and Chicken Summer Rolls: http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Lemon-Gr....

                                                                                Lemongrass Syrup: just a glorified simple syrup but oh, so good on so many yummy things including exotic fruit. http://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes...

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                                                                      makecakenotwar RE: karykat Jan 29, 2011 11:08 AM

                                                                      Lemongrass in a baked egg custard tart with coconut, still warm from the oven - delish!

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                                                                        chefathome RE: makecakenotwar Jan 29, 2011 11:09 AM

                                                                        Oh, my!

                                                            2. iL Divo RE: ipsedixit Jan 29, 2011 09:22 AM

                                                              Herbs say savory to me so I'd like to see suggestions. Like the lavender panna cotta and would love to see a T&T recipe for the perfect one

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                                                                sunshine842 RE: iL Divo Jan 29, 2011 11:05 AM

                                                                last year during a heat wave, I made a melon salad with gallia and honeydew melon, then added a handful of mint leaves chopped to a chiffonade.

                                                                I put the bowl in the freezer til it just began to go slushy.

                                                                Sounds a little odd, but wow...it was so cold and refreshing -- I make it regularly when it's warm now.

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                                                                thursday RE: ipsedixit Jan 29, 2011 11:05 AM

                                                                Herbs go great in fruit sorbets: Peach and Thyme, Strawberry and Basil, Lime or Lemon and Rosemary...

                                                                Peaches with almost any herbs are my favorite actually: Roasted or grilled peaches with thyme are great on their own, but even better with a little yogurt, ice cream or sour cream and crumbled almond biscotti. I imagine any not-too-sweet nut or seed based cookie would go well with lots of herbs - I'd like to try adding herbs to pignoli, almond shortbread, or some sort of pumpkin seed cookie...hmmm...

                                                                1. chefathome RE: ipsedixit Jan 29, 2011 11:06 AM

                                                                  This recipe is Lemon Verbena Panna Cotta but you can also use lavender..

                                                                  Same website but I love it! Greek Oregano Ice Cream...

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                                                                    buttertart RE: chefathome Jan 30, 2011 07:26 AM

                                                                    Lemon verbena has a wonderful flavor. I miss the restaurant Verbena in NYC, the food there was exciting (first encountered lemon verbena in desserts there).

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                                                                      chefathome RE: buttertart Jan 30, 2011 07:45 AM

                                                                      Agree 100% that it has a remarkable flavour. We grow our own as there are definitely no restaurants within a few hundred miles that include it on their menus. I also use it to stuff into roast chicken.

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                                                                    Krislady RE: ipsedixit Jan 29, 2011 02:12 PM

                                                                    I like to pair concord grapes with thyme - I've added thyme to grape pie, and last fall, I made a concord-thyme sorbet that was not bad, though I think I was a little heavy-handed with the thyme.

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                                                                      buttertart RE: Krislady Jan 30, 2011 07:27 AM

                                                                      One of the best desserts of my life was made by a dear friend - plums sautéed in butter and brown sugar with thyme from his garden and his homemade strawberry ice cream. Just lovely.

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                                                                        c oliver RE: buttertart Jan 30, 2011 07:48 AM

                                                                        That sounds just wonderful. Lots of different flavors that I imagine really complemented each other. I'm glad I've saved this thread esp. as a reminder that desserts don't have to be cloyingly sweet. Might turn me into a lover rather than a tolerator.

                                                                      2. re: Krislady
                                                                        karykat RE: Krislady Jan 30, 2011 08:01 AM

                                                                        Good to know. I have a whole bunch of de-seeded concord grapes in my freezer, courtesy of my uncle who grows them.

                                                                      3. c oliver RE: ipsedixit Jan 30, 2011 12:57 PM

                                                                        Was just flipping through the current issue of Bon Appetit and this Honey-Rosemary Ice Cream sounded good:


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                                                                          chefathome RE: c oliver Jan 30, 2011 12:59 PM

                                                                          I just saw that, too - looks heavenly!

                                                                        2. Emme RE: ipsedixit Jan 30, 2011 01:40 PM

                                                                          some things i've played with...

                                                                          granny smith and lemongrass sorbet

                                                                          fruit compotes with basil syrup made from white wine, sugar, basil and orange or grapefruit zest

                                                                          lavender blondies and lavender custard

                                                                          thyme shortbread

                                                                          rosemary fig newtons

                                                                          and i want to try this http://uktv.co.uk/food/recipe/aid/517073 dark chocolate and herbs cake with ricotta and caramel...

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                                                                            twilight goddess RE: Emme Mar 18, 2011 09:06 PM

                                                                            Lavender blondies --- do tell, Emme! I make blondies all the time, and I'm intrigued. Lavender is a favorite too.

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                                                                            piccola RE: ipsedixit Jan 30, 2011 05:20 PM

                                                                            I make a danish braid filled with apples, toasted hazelnuts and rosemary. I sometimes use basil in citrus desserts.

                                                                            1. oana RE: ipsedixit Feb 2, 2011 01:28 PM

                                                                              What a gorgeous thread! :) Thanks for starting it ipsedixit!

                                                                              1. PoppiYYZ RE: ipsedixit Feb 7, 2011 03:53 PM

                                                                                May be a little off topic, but my uncle makes amazing savory short-breads every Christmas time. My favorite is his rosemary shortbread, but he experiments with various herb blends (including adding lemon) and they all are terrific.

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                                                                                  c oliver RE: PoppiYYZ Feb 7, 2011 04:40 PM

                                                                                  IMO, totally ON topic. And a great idea. I love shortbread and making it somewhat savory sounds perfect. I don't suppose he'd share his recipe?

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                                                                                    PoppiYYZ RE: c oliver Feb 8, 2011 05:34 AM

                                                                                    I will do my best. He has the recipes and loves honey. I have bee hives and lots of honey...

                                                                                2. kattyeyes RE: ipsedixit Feb 10, 2011 02:19 PM

                                                                                  I made lavender brownies and thought that was pretty creative till I discovered Alice Medrich figured it out years before I did. :) Regardless, I used the Ghirardelli brownie recipe, then lavendered up the sugar: 1 teaspoon + 1 tablespoon buzzed with the sugar in the mini food processor. They smelled incredible and tasted even better. You can take a look at 'em here, if you wish. If lavender brownies don't move you, lavender sugar in and of itself could be a creative way to play with lavender in the kitchen.

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                                                                                    twilight goddess RE: ipsedixit Mar 18, 2011 09:08 PM

                                                                                    Lavender. So delicate, such a pretty flavor.

                                                                                    I've made lavender shortbread and it tastes fairy-tale-magic. Unusual, surprising, lovely with tea or coffee in the afternoon.

                                                                                    Blueberry lavender ice cream. Mmm.

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                                                                                      mamachef RE: twilight goddess Mar 19, 2011 05:26 AM

                                                                                      <tastes fairy-tale-magic>. Lovely, tg.

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                                                                                        thursday RE: twilight goddess Mar 19, 2011 01:04 PM

                                                                                        Do you have a recipe for the shortbread? How can I not want to try fairy tale magic?

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                                                                                          chefathome RE: thursday Mar 21, 2011 01:03 PM

                                                                                          Just add a bit of lavender to your favourite shortbread recipe. My favourite recipe is in "Fat", a great book. A touch of lemon zest is also nice with lavender and shortbread.

                                                                                      2. L.Nightshade RE: ipsedixit Mar 19, 2011 10:30 AM

                                                                                        About 20 years ago I found a Lorenza de Medici recipe for Miascia that is still one of my favorite desserts. It's an Italian bread pudding, with raisins, lemon zest, cornmeal, apples, pears, and grapes, topped with olive oil and rosemary before baking. I have also used other fresh fruit in season, but always with pears. The aroma of the baking rosemary and pears is heavenly!

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                                                                                          c oliver RE: L.Nightshade Mar 19, 2011 11:56 AM

                                                                                          That sounds wonderful. Is it a recipe you share?

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                                                                                            L.Nightshade RE: c oliver Mar 19, 2011 01:52 PM

                                                                                            Happy to share. I found it in a magazine, so I think that makes it public domain. But Lorenza de Medici gets the credit. I can't give the exact amounts for the milk used for soaking, it seems to vary with the type of bread used. The original recipe I saw called for 2 cups, when I saw it reprinted it called for 1/3 cup. The first was too soggy, the second too dry. I go in between, judge by how the bread absorbs it.

                                                                                            Oven is preheated to 375.
                                                                                            Soak 1/4 cup raisins in hot water for 15 minutes, then drain.
                                                                                            3 cups sliced or cubed stale, good quality, white bread (I use a country Italian or a ciabatta. I sometimes even leave some of the crusts on) are tossed in some milk (start with 1/3 cup and add as needed, depending on the bread) for a few minutes, just to moisten, not heavily soak.
                                                                                            Mix the batter by blending 3 eggs, 1/2 cup milk, a pinch of salt, 1/3 cup sugar, zest of one lemon, 2 tbs flour, and 2 tbs cornmeal.
                                                                                            Peel and slice apples and pears (3 fruit, your combination, I like 2 pears to one apple). Mix them with the raisins and 1/2 to 1 cup seedless red grapes.
                                                                                            Use a tart or quiche pan, 10 to 12 inches, buttered and lined with parchment. I like using a springform too. Lay the bread on the parchment and arrange the fruit on top. Pour the batter over the fruit and bread. Sprinkle with chopped fresh rosemary (amount to taste, I use two or three tablespoons, overkill for some), and one tablespoon sugar. Drizzle with a small amount of olive oil.
                                                                                            Bake at 375. Another discrepancy here, one recipe called for 7 minutes, the other for an hour! I just watch it and check it with a toothpick. I can't remember the exact time it takes, but it's closer to an hour than 7 minutes!

                                                                                            I hope if you try it you'll post your results!

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                                                                                              c oliver RE: L.Nightshade Mar 19, 2011 02:31 PM

                                                                                              Thank you so much. I'll definitely report back.

                                                                                        2. mamachef RE: ipsedixit Mar 20, 2011 05:46 AM

                                                                                          I was just flipping through a very, very old "Buttery Cookbook" (a Buttery is the New England version of a cold pantry) and found a recipe, c. 1850, for "herb cookies" which are basically a sugar thin with herbs of choice added: they suggested fennel, caraway, coriander, cardamom or marjoram. I thought it was fascinating, very very modern for the time it was written in.

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                                                                                            c oliver RE: mamachef Mar 20, 2011 07:53 AM

                                                                                            Wow, those sound amazing, don't they? 'Course fennel and caraway esp. are two of my faves.

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                                                                                              mamachef RE: c oliver Mar 20, 2011 07:57 AM

                                                                                              I think caraway thins and a cuppa would be the perfect mid-afternoon "revivification" snack.

                                                                                          2. eclecticsynergy RE: ipsedixit Apr 9, 2011 09:02 PM

                                                                                            Coriander is a great addition to desserts and cookies.

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