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Per Se Price Increase

When did Per Se increase their price to $295? With the $40 supplement for foie gras (which I would order), my minimum food charge at Per Se is now $335. EMP's $195 tasting menu is now the bargain of the year! Don't get me wrong, I adore Per Se, but I have a hard time with my food portion of my dinner costing $335. And then of course, Bouley has a multi-course tasting menu for $125 that I love too! Guess I'll have to go more often to EMP and Bouley.

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  1. Expensive, yes, but still lower than places like La Pergola or Guy Savoy, with the current exchange rates.

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    1. re: H Manning

      I'm limiting price comparisons to NYC restaurants. I remember dining at Guy Savoy (Paris) about 15 years ago, and with the US$/French franc currency exchange, Guy Savoy and Taillevent were relative bargains.

    2. Yea, I just noticed that too (I will check Per Se's menu from time-to-time). I went back in summer 2009 and it was $275 with $30 for the foie supplement. Also, it seems unusual to do this with the reduction to the 1-month reservation limit (from 2) and the fact that I see much more openings pop up on Open Table when doing general searches. This past Sunday for lunch, there were many open times.

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      Per Se
      10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

      1. The increase was January 15th, I happened to see that update when planning my trip.

        http://uhockey.blogspot.com

        1. Yeah the price did go up...sad. But the last time i went (late October) the supplement was totally worth the 40 bucks. Not that I would go there very often for $300 per person plus gratuity plus wine, but I have to say each time it is a memorable experience for me.

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          1. Recent (Jan 22) cover articles in The Economist indicate that the ultra-rich have recovered most of their losses since 2008 and are again spending freely, and high-end providers of comforts to the wealthy are ratcheting up prices in lockstep.

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            1. re: Veggo

              Too bad I'm not (and probably not many Hounds) are of the ultra-rich sort. Don't get me wrong, I think I've dined at Per Se 5 times, and they were all spectacular experiences, it's just that with the cost, I'll have to save Per Se for true milestone events instead of just going out for a great dinner.

              1. re: ellenost

                Well, ellenost, that's 4 times more than Mr. R. & I have been to per se. Our one time was for our 40th anniversary. Chef Humm had been urging us to go, telling us that the cuisine was on a level all its own. So, since our day fell on a Sunday, and EMP was closed, we booked for lunch with our daughter and son-in-law. It was a lovely afternoon and, with the exception of a disappointingly bland veal dish, the food was superb. However, as we told Chef Humm the next time we saw him, in our opinion, his cuisine is every bit the equal. So, why would we want to pay the considerably higher price at per se. Plus, that foie gras supplement really frosted my cockles!

                Speaking of EMP, have you been there yet for the tasting menu? We did it on Saturday. Spectacular! Well worth $195pp. We also had a stellar lunch there today.

                EMP tasting dinner photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

                http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                1. re: RGR

                  *frosted my cockles*

                  Okay, I'm stealing that phrase from you RGR.

                  Lovely pictures, by the way. I enjoyed my recent lunch at EMP and have another reservation in a couple of weeks. Can't wait.

                  1. re: H Manning

                    Thanks for the compliment, H Manning! :) And to be honest, *I* stole that from one of the political bloggers I read regularly. I'd never heard it before and found it hilarious coming from someone not posting about food.

                    http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                  2. re: RGR

                    We're going to EMP on Friday for the tasting menu. Loved your photos; I forwarded them to E. Please wish Mr. R a very happy birthday!

                    1. re: ellenost

                      ellenost, It's possible that there could be changes by next Friday, but no matter. I'm sure you and E will love the tasting menu.

                      Lunch today was totally amazing. They really went all out! It may be a few days until I get those photos up on Flickr.

                      I will extend your birthday wishes to Mr. R. I know he will appreciate them. :)

                      http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                      1. re: RGR

                        If the lunch managed to top that dinner then I must say I'm really looking forward to my return visit to EMP. The more I look at your pictures the more I see they have really elevated their game. The trail of amuses and mignardises nearly triple the number of "courses" on the menu.

                        Happy birthday to Mr. R. :-)

                        http://uhockey.blogspot.com

                        1. re: RGR

                          I'm so disappointed, but due to the weather (19 inches of more snow!), we've cancelled our reservation at EMP for tomorrow night. Somehow the thought of trudging through all of the snow just wouldn't have been conducive to an elegant night of dining. We'll reschedule soon!

                          1. re: ellenost

                            I feel your disappointment, ellenost. :( We were originally supposed to have dinner there last night, but made what turned out to be a very smart move and in the a.m. changed it to lunch

                            http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                            1. re: RGR

                              In case anyone's interested, EMP has several prime time openings tonight, according to OpenTable.

                              1. re: H Manning

                                BTW, Per Se has availability tonight too. However, EMP is fully booked for tomorrow night (my reservation was snapped up within the hour that I released it on OpenTable), while Per Se has availability tomorrow night. Hope someone takes advantage of the snow storm!

                                1. re: ellenost

                                  What's the bar menu like at EMP? Is it as good as the salon menu at Per Se?

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                                  Per Se
                                  10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

                                  1. re: H Manning

                                    I have never eaten at the bar at EMP. You should call the restaurant directly to inquire (and I hope you post the answer-thanks).

                              2. re: RGR

                                I was there last night!

                                Review to come later. But yes trying to find a car/cab to leave definitely took some effort.

                        2. re: RGR

                          While I am sure EMP has become even more impressive since my last visit (and I simply cannot wait for 2/18 for that very reason,) I do wonder if you and Mr. R being known to the house helps elevate your experience.

                          I will fully admit to spending $450 on my extended tasting at Per Se last year, but I wouldn't even hesitate to do it again (of course, that is once I sample my way through the ever growing list of NYC places I want to visit.)

                          http://uhockey.blogspot.com

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                          10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

                          1. re: uhockey

                            I would be foolish to deny that that has an effect on our experiences at EMP. However, there are many posts from other Hounds not known to the house extolling the virtues of EMP and attesting to the high caliber of the dining experience there. Of course, there will always be dissenters, but that's the case with every single restaurant in NYC, including per se.

                            We're totally psyched about 2/18! :)

                            http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                            1. re: RGR

                              Can't please everyone everytime - thus the reason there are thousands of restaurants on the not-so-little island of Manhattan.

                              I will note that it was at EMP that I officially fell in love with Foie Gras and I simply cannot wait to see what Chef Humm is doing with it when I visit - heck, I'd eat 3 course of it (I'm sure if they could make it work in a dessert I'd do 4) if possible. :-) My sister still talks about the basil sorbet to this day, as well.

                              It will actually be my first "second visit" to any restaurant in New York.

                              http://uhockey.blogspot.com

                            2. re: uhockey

                              I ate there once (EMP) and nobody knew me.
                              There were tons of extras and it was brilliant in all respects.
                              I think part of the beauty of the place is that they make you feel special whoever you are.

                              1. re: pauliface

                                I've no doubt - I was wowed at both Gramercy Tavern and The Modern so I'm certain Danny Meyer knows how to treat a customer.

                                And Having been to both Per Se and The French Laundry I'd venture to say they do the same.

                                When you get into the top tier of dining the differences are subtle and I think that is why EMP even came up in this conversation - at $130 less (not accounting for the inclusive service at Per Se,) is it perhaps a better "bang for the buck."

                                http://uhockey.blogspot.com

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                                Per Se
                                10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

                                Gramercy Tavern
                                42 E 20th St, New York, NY 10003

                              2. re: uhockey

                                We had an extended tasting booked for next Wed. The price is now up to $500 pp. In the end we decided to cancel and are going to EMP instead.

                                1. re: rob1234

                                  While $500 is a huge chunk of change, certainly not the sort of thing you'd do every day, I guarantee it would've been worth it in terms of the food. I was there nearly 6 hours and got 20+ courses, including items from the VIP stash.

                                  http://uhockey.blogspot.com

                                  1. re: uhockey

                                    I would probably agree with you and would have paid it had we not also booked 12 other fairly expensive restaurants in New York and Washington for our trip (some based on your blog and posts here so thanks).

                                    There was also the issue of our international flight arriving at 4:45 in New York and having to be at Per Se by 7:00 to be early enough for the extended tasting.

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                                    Per Se
                                    10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

                              3. re: RGR

                                Why has a thread about Per Se turned into a thread about EMP?

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                                Per Se
                                10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

                                1. re: gutsofsteel

                                  Rather, I think it became a thread about relative value - that thing we all look for in a meal which is comprised of the price vs. the food, seating, service, quality of ingredients, and intangibles. IE: Is the experience at Per Se worth $335 when much cheaper meals can be had with (potentially) as good of food/service/intangibles.

                                  http://uhockey.blogspot.com

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                                  Per Se
                                  10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

                                2. re: RGR

                                  RGR great pics. I actually dined at EMP the same night as you and Mr. R and also ordered the tasting menu. I've "only" dined at EMP three times, and although, Kevin (our captain) made a note to ensure we would have a kitchen tour, we are otherwise unknown to the restaurant.

                                  We had all the amuses and petits fours you enjoyed. Our menus were identical, save for our request to substitute the a foie course. @Uhockey since you stated you loved EMP's foie, as of last Sat they were serving a torchon of foie with Venezuelan Cocoa in a Quince gelee with a Quince Vinaigrette thats served with Brioche with Venezeulan Cocoa, it was incredible.

                                  Pictures and review will be up shortly, but I feel the same way I did after my lunch a few weeks earlier, that the restaurant has really elevated itself and is clearly one of the more ambitious kitchens in New York.

                                  1. re: TheDegustationAsian

                                    Thanks for the compliment, TDA! :) Also, thank you for underscoring my contention that the goal of the staff at EMP is to give all patrons, irrespective of how many times they have been there, THE best dining experience possible.

                                    Looking forward to reading your review and seeing your photos.

                                    http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                                    1. re: TheDegustationAsian

                                      I have no doubt the experience is always top notch - I have a great Danny Meyer story from my very first visit to any of his restaurants (Gramercy Tavern) - it is the sort of thing that I'll never forget and I'll patronize his restaurants until he quits the game for that very reason.

                                      That foie sounds amazing.

                                      http://uhockey.blogspot.com