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Between Frances and Camino which do you guys like better?

In town for a few days, already planning to visit a few old favs but between Frances and Camino which do you guys think is a better bet? Any other rec's in that vein would be appreciated as well, very much into the whole panisse-verse rusticy ingredient obsessed style of cooking, no square plates or chefs tasting menus. Thanks :)

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  1. Camino is lovely, Frances is a bear to get into. I would try Canteen!

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      1. I like Frances better but it is a harder reservation to get.

        Have you considered Plum, Barbacco, Baker & Banker, Nopa?

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        Nopa
        560 Divisadero St, San Francisco, CA 94117

        Baker & Banker
        1701 Octavia Street, San Francisco, CA 94109

        Barbacco
        230 California St, San Francisco, CA 94111

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        1. re: Scott M

          Thank you for the list! Just the sort of thing I was looking for.

        2. I prefer Frances over Camino in terms of getting to see a chef's creativity. But Camino is more along the lines of Chez Panisse, and does have a nice rustic decor with the wood-burning stove in the back and large picnic-like tables. As some mention, Camino is in Oakland and you'd have to drive because it'll be BART and reliance on AC transit buses to get there otherwise. Frances would simply be catching the Muni (underground) to Castro station and walking over. Plus, you could get drinks at Starbelly before going to Frances for dinner (if you're able to get a reservations). If you can't get reservations, you have a small chance of getting the bar seats at Frances if you get there right when they open their doors or eat very very late.

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          Chez Panisse
          1517 Shattuck Avenue, Berkeley, CA 94709

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          1. re: singleguychef

            I've never tried walking in to Frances but on the five occasions that I've dined there I have seen open tables throughout the night on most of those evenings.

          2. Hands down Frances. The food is superior by far and the service is friendly and professional. The service at Camino was rude and inattentive. Frances is difficult to get into, but well worth it.

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            1. re: zinfanatic

              I'm quite surprised to read your description of service at Camino as "rude and inattentive". I've enjoyed several meals there and have never encountered a rude server. True, they don't repeatedly come over to ask how things are. But I'm usually engaged in conversation and prefer not to be interrupted. And have never had a problem catching the eye, and then attn, of a server.