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black bean sauce

torontomom Jan 20, 2011 04:15 PM

Is there a brand of kosher black bean sauce ? I'm looking to make fish in (fermented) black bean sauce - asian style

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    GilaB RE: torontomom Jan 20, 2011 04:21 PM

    I've been looking for ages, and have yet to find it. Let me know if you see anything. I do have a fermented black bean and garlic sauce from Lee Kum Kee with an OU, but haven't found the straight up fermented black beans that aren't further processed.

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      E7Victoria RE: GilaB Jan 29, 2011 07:00 PM

      Is this still available with a hechsher? My husband bought a new jar without double-checking the OU on the label only to look and find NOTHING on the label when we went to use it today. It doesn't come up in OU's product database and isn't listed under the kosher products on the Lee Kum Kee website....

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        GilaB RE: E7Victoria Jan 30, 2011 05:54 AM

        No idea. I bought it over a year ago.

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      ganeden RE: torontomom Jan 20, 2011 06:33 PM

      Not sure whether one can find fermented black bean with a hechsher. I found black bean on the menu (I think it was chicken in lobster sauce) in a kosher restaurant in brooklyn many years ago- they were working under the assumption that it was kosher when from Taiwan. I bought some bags from them and shlepped them home to California. Later, when we were out, I asked a shaila, and was told they were acceptable. At that time, we purchased a bunch, and year later we still have 1 bag left. I'm afraid it would take another shaila to be able to purchase more, absent a decent hechsher. We had some chicken in black bean last week (without the bell pepper and egg drop which help make it "lobster sauce". The kids loved it, and I couldn't get enough, even though my wife used about half the amount she should have due to rationing.

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        mamaleh RE: torontomom Jan 21, 2011 08:31 AM

        Golden Chopsticks restaurant in Toronto (COR hashgacha) sells their own sauces, including black bean sauce. See http://www.goldenchopstick.ca/Menu.html

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          torontomom RE: mamaleh Jan 29, 2011 08:12 PM

          thanks I'm going to try that

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          torontomom RE: torontomom Feb 16, 2011 05:55 AM

          Thanks for your help everyone. I bought black bean sauce from Golden Chopsticks in Toronto and made tilapia in black bean sauce for dinner last night. It was delicious

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            mamaleh RE: torontomom Feb 16, 2011 11:45 AM

            Glad it worked out for you. Would love your recipe if it contains more ingredients than tilapia and black bean sauce ...

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              koshergourmetmart RE: torontomom Jul 12, 2012 05:56 AM

              is it shelf stable or refrigerated

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                mamaleh RE: koshergourmetmart Jul 12, 2012 04:59 PM

                I thought I posted this answer earlier today, but I guess it did not post. Sold in foam take-out containers. Not shelf stable.

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              shoelace RE: torontomom Jul 12, 2012 04:47 PM

              theres one listed on the kosher depot list


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                GilaB RE: shoelace Jul 12, 2012 04:50 PM

                But it's sold by the gallon!

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                  shoelace RE: GilaB Jul 12, 2012 05:01 PM

                  if youre in queens/li/nyc id split it with you, and i bet other people would get in on it with us

                  theyre out on long island, ive never heard of the place, im more wondering if theyre still open

                  also some of these things dont need to be refrigerated, i have no clue about this, but if thats the case...

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                    ettilou RE: shoelace Jul 12, 2012 06:50 PM

                    I live in the 5 Towns and if this exists with reliable hashgocha, I'm in.....I'd even go buy it if we find out this place is still openAND Still selling it.

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                      shoelace RE: ettilou Jul 12, 2012 08:55 PM

                      if theyre still open, its on their most recent list, and its listed as ou pareve on the list,

                      im gonna call the # tomorrow and find out if they exist

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                        shoelace RE: shoelace Jul 13, 2012 06:52 AM

                        they're open, they still carry it

                        i just went through their product list, they have a huge number of things ive been searching for for years and they're list is searchable!

                        almost giddy with excitement, what a resource

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                          iris RE: shoelace Jul 13, 2012 08:55 AM

                          And the bulk dried mushrooms and frozen dumplings sound amazing. Buying club, anyone?

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                            shoelace RE: iris Jul 13, 2012 09:13 AM

                            im in to split dumplings with you

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                              cheesecake17 RE: shoelace Jul 16, 2012 11:09 AM

                              100 dumplings would go pretty quickly in my house! If you end up buying the dumplings, I would love to know which type And if they're good.

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                            shoelace RE: shoelace Jul 13, 2012 09:12 AM


                            they are no longer carrying the black bean sauce, but they have a whole list of other stuff they are carrying that im curious about

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                              Chowbird RE: shoelace Jul 13, 2012 10:33 AM

                              I found this at http://asiarecipe.com/kosher.html:

                              >>Fermented Black Beans (Salted Black Beans)
                              >>These imported small black beans have been fermented and preserved in >>salt. I could not find any brand of fermented black beans with rabbinical >>approval, however I see no problem in them. They are an important spice in >>Chinese cooking and are a pure vegetable product sold packaged in Asian >>groceries. These beans are soft and chewy with a pungent aroma, and they >>add a delightful flavour to dishes cooked with minced garlic and fresh >>ginger and are especially good with stir fried beef or steamed fish. They >>can be stored indefinitely in the refrigerator in an airtight container.(Kosher >>without supervision but if there is one with supervision buy that one


                              FYI 1. I'm not Jewish and 2. I have no idea how reliable this website it, so please double-check before buying any black beans! It also might be possible to make your own via lactofermentation; I wonder if one could use frozen soybeans (edamame) to do this?

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                                koshergourmetmart RE: shoelace Jul 13, 2012 11:41 AM

                                They get their dried mushrooms from woodland foods

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                                  iris RE: shoelace Jul 13, 2012 02:24 PM

                                  Not sure how we can communicate/set this up/find each other's emails?

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                                  koshergourmetmart RE: shoelace Jul 13, 2012 11:40 AM

                                  A while back people posted about kosher depots being unreliable in terms of orders being shipped.

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                                    shoelace RE: koshergourmetmart Jul 13, 2012 02:54 PM

                                    this kosher depot is out on long island in wantagh, their shipments may not be reliable, but the guy i spoke to said that i can pick stuff up directly there

                                    in terms of exchanging emails, i have no clue how or where were allowed to do that without getting the thread eliminated

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                        deejw RE: torontomom Jul 19, 2012 09:07 PM

                        We have a big supply (here in Los Angeles) of the fermented black beans that go into making black bean sauce and I've been dying to be able to buy and use them but can't find a Rabbi willing to give an affirmative opinion as to whether they are acceptable without a hechsher (because none have a hechsher). I feel pretty confident that they're OK but don't feel comfortable buying unless I'm told it's OK. Does anyone know a mashgiach who is knowledgeable about Asian ingredients. I asked our local (SF Valley) expert and he declined to opine.

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                          JRKyummy RE: deejw Jul 19, 2012 09:25 PM

                          Everland Black Bean Sauce is available at Nature's Emporium in Newmarket, at the corner of Yonge and Mulock.


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                            deejw RE: JRKyummy Jul 19, 2012 10:18 PM

                            thanks - i think that's not close to Los Angeles since I don't recognize any of those street names but I'll look up the brand at least to see if it's sold around here.

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                              JRKyummy RE: deejw Jul 20, 2012 12:32 PM

                              Sorry - I was giving the location for the OP who was in Toronto.

                              Newmarket is a town north of Toronto.

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