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New York Trip - first week of March

Hi, myself and my gf are heading to New York for 3 nights in the 1st week of March. We are both very passionate about food and want to experience NY food at it's best. We are staying near Herald Square.

We are on a budget however and I've lined out a plan of where to go with that in mind. I was wondering if you could give me your opinions of these places and maybe suggest others that might be better for people hoping to get the best examples of NY cuisine.

MEALS

RED EGG for dim-sum in Chinatown. Red Egg as we won't be in town until the afternoon on our first day.

DAISY MAYS - was going to head here on the afternoon of the 2nd day. We are planning on going to a show so we wanted to get a substantial meal in. We are dying to try proper BBQ too. Given it's location and fro what I've read this seems like the place to go?

SKYLIGHT DINER - we want to go to a diner for a nice breakfast/ brunch. Would this be one of the best?

BALTHAZAR - I was in NY with family a few years back and we went here. I loved it and so would like to take the gf here.

KATZ - I was hoping to get the famous Pastrami sandwich on the day we leave for lunch. Is this the place to go?

DESSERTS

SCREME/ L'ARTE DE GELATO - Wanted to fins some really nice gelato and keep seeing these names coming up.

BILLY'S BAKERY - for Pie, cookies, cakes etc

Please let me know what you think of my choices and please suggest any alternatives. Bear in mind the price range and the fact we are looking for classic (and probably stereotypical!) NY places.

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Red Egg
202 Centre Street, New York, NY 10013

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  1. Daisy Mays has some good dishes but it's hard to make a recommendation for BBQ without knowing if you prefer brisket (go to Hill Country instead), ribs (they have good pork ribs), or pulled pork (they don't have great pulled pork).

    Skip Skylight Diner and go to Clinton St Baking Company for insanely fluffy pancakes, good bacon, good eggs, etc.

    Katz's and Balthazar sound good to me. L'Arte is one of my favorites as well. Have not been to Screme.

    Billy's is known for cupcakes mostly. NYC isn't known for having world famous pies. That said, what is it that you want? Pie? Cake? Cookies? Bakeries in NYC tend to do a few things well and you need to be careful when you pick and choose.

    Smoked salmon/bagels and pizza seem to be missing from your list!

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    Hill Country
    30 W 26th St, New York, NY 10010

    Skylight Diner
    402 W 34th St, New York, NY 10001

    Screme
    234 W 42nd St, New York, NY 10036

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    1. re: kathryn

      Thanks for the reply kathryn. I'll check out Clinton St Baking Company.

      On the BBQ - we are looking for pulled pork more so, but I'm attracted by the jumbo Beef Rib in Daisy May's.

      Cheescake and Pie is probably what we are looking for from a bakery - would you have any suggestions for these?

      I know about the omissions - it's hurting! I'm already planning another trip to fill in the food blanks!

      1. re: trackguy

        I really like the pulled pork at Blue Smoke (may be too pricey for you) and Dinosaur (way uptown though). Reservations are a must for both. However, overall I think NYC is weaker on pulled pork than ribs and brisket.

        For cheesecake, Serious Eats determined Two Little Red Hens did it best:
        http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2009/1...

        For pie, I'm a fan of First Prize Pies, which are available from Roni-Sue's Chocolates in the Essex St Market. But I've only bought whole pies--check their site to find where you can have a slice or two.

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        Roni-Sue's Chocolates
        120 Essex St, New York, NY 10002

        Blue Smoke
        116 East 27th Street, New York, NY 10016

        1. re: kathryn

          Thanks. I had a look at Blue Smoke, has a really lovely beer menu too from what I remember. I'll have to consult the other traveller for help deciding!

          Can you tell me the name on the link? It appears to be broken.

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          Blue Smoke
          116 East 27th Street, New York, NY 10016

            1. re: trackguy

              Be sure to look up location & photos of Daisy May if you choose to go there. It has little ambiance and I find the location a bit cold and windy in the winter due to it being so close to the water. There might be a better pre-show alternative for you.

              1. re: kathryn

                Thanks kathryn, we are leaning towards Blue Smoke - it looks very good.

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                Blue Smoke
                116 East 27th Street, New York, NY 10016

      2. I erased my post so here are my suggestions, but do your homework...

        - Torrisi Italian Specialties for dinner (4 courses for $50), get in line by 5pm, Momofuku Noodle Bar, Caracas Arepa Bar, Luzzo's Pizza, Abraco & 9th St. Espresso for coffee, the Donut Plant, Luke's Lobster bar, Ed's Lobster Bar, Porchetta, Morandi for breakfast, Good Enough to Eat for breakfast, DBGB Kitchen & Bar for the Piggy Burger (burger topped with Daisy Mae's pulled pork), The Meatball Shop, The Shake Shack, Ess-a-Bagel. You can eat much better for what you would spend at Balthazar!!!

        But make a point to go to Torrisi, it's awesome!

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        Ess-a-Bagel
        359 1st Ave, New York, NY 10010

        Good Enough to Eat
        483 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

        Luzzo's
        211 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

        Ed's Lobster Bar
        222 Lafayette St, New York, NY 10012

        Caracas Arepa Bar
        93 1/2 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

        Morandi
        211 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10014

        Momofuku Noodle Bar
        171 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

        Abraco
        86 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

        Porchetta
        110 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

        DBGB
        299 Bowery, New York, NY 10003

        Luke's Lobster
        93 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

        Torrisi Italian Specialties
        250 Mulberry St, New York, NY 10012

        1. I would also consider Dim Sum Go Go for that meal. The duck dumpling and pea shoot dumplings are both very good there.

          For BBQ I like Hill Country better than Daisy May's. Fette Sau in Brooklyn is very good too if you head that way. It is only two stops into Bklyn on the Subway so it is actually easier to reach than many places in Manhattan.

          Where are you from by the way? This might help with what people here can recommend as far as getting different stuff than what you might get at home.

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          Hill Country
          30 W 26th St, New York, NY 10010

          Dim Sum Go Go
          5 E Broadway, New York, NY 10038

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          1. re: MVNYC

            I'm from Ireland. So BBQ is almost a non-entity here, as are diners and good dim-sum places.

            Thanks everyone for the replies!

            1. re: trackguy

              I would say any of the BBQ places will satisfy your craving but my top two are Hill Country and Fette Sau. Hill country has really good sausages that they get from Kreutz down in the Hill Country of Texas, really good. Their pork ribs are also excellent and sides are good, get the collard greens. Fette sau has some interesting cuts, their pork belly is especially good and they have a good bourbon and craft beer selection.

              I do not recall seeing much Vietnamese the last time I was in Ireland, you can split a banh mi at Banh Mi So 1 after dim sum. Really excellent sandwich.

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              Hill Country
              30 W 26th St, New York, NY 10010

              1. re: MVNYC

                Thanks - will have a look at both of these.

          2. For cheesecake I always recommend Veniero's. Both their Italian and NYC style are great but I prefer the Italian. They have a pretty nice indoor seating area which is great with this weather and like most pastry shops, there are lots of other cookies and baked goods to sample. Their cannoli isn't the best in the city, but if you are already there it's worth grabbing one. However, you did say you wanted stereotypical so you could also try Junior's. It's a big tourist spot and their cheesecake is almost as good as Veniero's. Plus it's in a great location for you to visit after your show.

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            Veniero's
            342 E 11th St, New York, NY 10003

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            1. re: drbyyz

              Great - thank you, that fits into our schedule as we should be down that end of town.

              1. re: drbyyz

                I haven't been to Veniero's in years. When I was last there, everything in the extensive display of pastries looked lovely, everything was uniformly disappointing, and the place was mysteriously packed. Has it gotten much better over the years?
                In that area, I'd recommend Black Hound, Birdbath Bakery, Something Sweet, or for more unique NYC experiences, Momofuku Milk Bar or Chickalicious.

                  1. re: trackguy

                    If you're by L'Arte it is worth it to go to Bruno Bakery and get a freshly filled cannoli.

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                    Bruno Bakery
                    506 LaGuardia Pl, New York, NY 10012

                    1. re: kathryn

                      I don't know what to plan next - another trip to New York or the fitness regime when I get home?! Thanks for all the advice though, its really helpful!

                      1. re: kathryn

                        Rocco's is actually much closer (momentary memory lapse) and actually on Bleecker St.

                    2. re: rose water

                      Most definitely second Momofuku Milk Bar.

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                      Momofuku Milk Bar
                      15 W 56th St, New York, NY 10019

                      1. re: LeahBaila

                        I've checked this place out and will definitely visit. Thanks.

                        1. re: trackguy

                          Good stuff...I tried their "birthday cake truffles" for the first time this weekend and really enjoyed them. Keep your expectations at a reasonable level - not too high, not too low - and let us know your thoughts.
                          Enjoy your trip :)

                  2. If you are watching your budget go to Red Egg for their Happy Hour: 4-7 PM Monday-Friday, half price dim sum and wine and beer in the lounge area.

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                    1. re: City Kid

                      We were planning on heading there Thursday afternoon so that would be great!