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pslpsl Jan 13, 2011 09:02 AM

Home brewing the ultimate Cafe Sua Da : where in LA/SGV/OC must I go to get the secret ingredient?

Home brewing the ultimate Cafe Sua Da : where in LA/SGV/OC must I go to get the secret ingredient?

Some of the best CSD is SUPER bitter (almost astringent), SUPER sweet (but *doesn't* taste like saccharine) and a little "thick/creamy" with a good mouthfeel. I can't quite get there (I'd rate my homebrew attempts as 7/10)

I use longevity brand condensed milk, and have used Trung Nguyen premium blend preground in the metal cans (tried cafe du monde, not as good)

I use 3 tspns of coffee in a metal drip filter, and 2 tspns of milk.

I have real problems w/ consistency: I can't get my coffee to brew at the same rate.....sometimes the water flashes through and sometimes it drips, and I can't correlate which makes a better cup….(I've tried playing w/the screw top on the filter etc, and it's inconsistent)

I can't replicate the superbittersupersweet at home - if I use too much coffee it gets too bitter, too much milk too sweet and I can't balance them out….it also doesn't have that mouthfeel……. I'm sure the cafes I get it from aren't using 5 tpspns of coffee and 5 tsp's of condensed milk

. Any suggestions ?

People talk about the aeropress: is there a particular one that works?

I saw this thread http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/751463

Haylp. I Need bittersweet coffee nirvana at home!

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    ns1 Jan 13, 2011 09:35 AM

    what I did was get rid of that metal filter and got an aeropress - consistency increased 5000%

    Also to get that "mouth feel" I would brew it the night before and let it sit in the fridge. That way when you add ice it doesn't dilute the CSD.

    I like my CSD very, very strong. vietnamese cafe strong, not Lee's Sandwiches strong.

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      pslpsl Jan 13, 2011 11:11 AM

      ns1: The refridgeration idea is excellent! Do you store it in a particular type of bottle/container to preserve flavor? How long do you think the aeropress-brewed coffee can last for in the fridge?

      Coffee you use? Quantities of both the coffee & milk? Do you measure temp w/thermometer to do 185 F like TN suggests?

      This is nerding out, but I wish to approach nirvana.

      Also, this is pertinent http://www.vietworldkitchen.com/blog/...

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        ns1 Jan 13, 2011 11:17 AM

        Not going to lie, I stopped drinking CSD because it was no longer strong enough for me and I became TOO lactose intolerant. BUT I'm still a coffee geek and drink coffee daily.

        1. I brew in mugs (using the areopress) with condensed milk on the bottom. After the coffee is done brewing I mixed it up and simply put it in the fridge overnight. I used to run 2 tins in order to get enough coffee.

        2. Back when I was still using tins I used the glass POM cups for brewing. I knew exactly how much milk to put in based on how far up the glass cup the condensed milk got. As such, I don't have a tsp measurement for you. I will say that Beehive syrup dispensers are FANTASTIC at storing condensed milk.

        3. I ordered directly from TN online back when I was drinking CSD, I go to a local roaster now.

        4. I used to brew CSD ~190, with normal coffee and the aeropress I'm somewhere between 170 and 180.

        5. @ your link OMG HE COPIED MY STYLE. Well, almost. He's still using the aeropress like a n00b.

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          pslpsl Jan 13, 2011 01:10 PM

          All of the above: excellent advice:

          i) If your kitchen is cold, longevity milk does not pour easily out of the syrup dispenser (beehive tin). Perhaps warming in warm water or using a conventional squeeze bottle....

          ii) any particular TN coffee that floated your boat?

          more internet sleuthing found the following
          http://www.handocoffee.com/hot-brew-iced-coffee.html

          http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?/...

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            ns1 Jan 13, 2011 01:12 PM

            thanks for the links. I was perfectly happy with their house blend (whole bean tho)

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              pslpsl Jan 17, 2011 11:18 AM

              The chilling works REALLY well for mouthfeel - no more watery CSD

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                ns1 Jan 18, 2011 08:35 AM

                great to hear!

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