French Toast, a procedure poll
On Saturday, I watched "French Cooking at Home," or I think that's the name of the show. I also discovered that the Food Network (or was it the Cooking Channel?) has a lot of great shows on Saturday that I'd prefer to see mor often during the week!
Anyway, the host of the show -- I forget her name -- made a savory French toast. But her method for making it was unlike any I've seen or heard of before. She cut a baguet in nice thick slices, then she soaked the bread in milk, THEN dipped it in a beaten egg and from there, into the frying pan with melted butter.
I've been making French toast for at least a gazillion years, but I have always made a custard of milk and eggs, a touch of sugar to promote browning, and a pinch of salt to dip the bread in before frying. And that's the same method everyone i've ever talked about making French toast with uses. This different method is interesting, and I do plan on giving it a try to see if I like it more than my own method, but I am also very curious whether I have lived my life with my head buried in the sand. What method do you guys use? I'm really curious! Thanks!
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I use a thick-cut, dense bread that is at least slightly stale, dip in in a mixture of egg, half-and-half, and vanilla, then brown both sides in butter. A light dusting of cinnamon on one or both sides is a must.
I use the method of placing the bread into a warm (not hot) oven on a cooling rack topped baking sheet to keep the toast warm while you finish cooking the other pieces. This step also allows the outside to stay crisp while drying off any excess moisture that may be left in the bread. Top with real maple syrup or a drizzle of honey. Fresh fruit is a nice addition, too. -
I love rich and indulgent French Toast that uses heavy cream and eggs in one bowl (not dipped separately). When I don't have time to make it bread pudding style, I use this recipe from Martha Stewart.
http://www.marthastewart.com/recipe/classic-french-toast
Challah is good but I recommend using brioche.
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I make really, really light french toast using about half as much egg as is normally called for, whole milk, sugar, cinnamon, vanilla and leftover ciabatta. I top it with powdered sugar and berries. I guess it's really an Italian toast?
Otherwise, I do as everyone else and use challah. My husband hates, hates, hates eggs, so I actually take the time to scrape off any overly eggy residue from the outside of the bread and then let the slices "drain" on a plate before tossing them in the pan.
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I want to try the orange now. I make our FT with challah and I lightly dust the outside with flour after soaking the bread for extra crispiness. cook in lots of butter. I like a proportion of custard that is more milk/cream product than egg, so about 4 slices of bread per egg. plus vanilla, sugar, and melted butter.
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You have all made me very hungry! I make my FT like many of you because that's how my momma did it ... white bread, eggs, milk, vanilla, cinnamon, but we add a touch of freshly grated nutmeg, cooked in butter. Served with too much butter, powdered sugar and maple syrup. Sometimes I'll make a syrup for my DH if I have any berries in the house that should've been eaten the day before (I'm too picky about firmness)
The orange version has me drooling at the thought of it ... kids would love if it I added maple. Guess we are doing a taste test this weekend LOL
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In a blender I whip the eggs, light cream, vanilla bean, orange juice, maple syrup, cinnamon and salt to create the batter. Then I pour the batter into a pie plate and dip both sides of thick challah into the batter and pan fry with sweet butter until golden brown. About the only change for me comes when I add brandy or rum to the batter (replacing the syrup) when I make bananas foster french toast.
Recently we added a java french toast to our breakfast menu which entails adding instant espresso powder to the blender mix and serving it with espresso-maple sauce.
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I have never seen a milk soak followed by the egg soak.
I made FT for the kids for years. The recipe they liked best was very non-Escoffier but very delicious and the kids loved it and that was all that mattered:
One XL egg per 2 slices of regular old white bread; add some skim milk, a little vanilla and a touch of cinnamon. Mix.
Take each piece of white bread and dip both sides in the egginess and then onto a buttered flat pan.
And here was a little trick. I poured any leftover egginess on top of each piece of bread. This seemed to poof them when they fried.
When I flipped to side 2 I also sprinkled some cinn-sugar on the already fried sided. Then whe side 2 was nice and golden i would flip back to side one to melt the cinn-sugar.
Then onto a plate and a quick snowing of powdered sugar.
Some good old maple syrup and the kids were in heaven.
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re: jfood
Sounds good, Jay. My mother was seriously hooked on salt and pepper with butter. She made her French toast gooey in the center, or what the French call "baveux", then slathered it while still piping hot with lots of fresh butter (sometimes she made her own) then a liberal sprinkling of telecherry pepper and salt. As a result of this childhood indoctrination, I ALWAYS have to have at least one slice of French toast swimming in butter and doused with salt and freshly ground telecherry pepper. It's good! But it's very bad for the waistline.
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re: Caroline1
Baveux must be one of the best food words ever (even better, baveuse). There's a savory French toast I make in one of Madhur Jaffrey's cookbooks, bread in the custard, browned one side, minced chili pepper, green onions, and ginger applied to the top, flipped and browned. Very nice. I'm going to try the butter, salt, and pepper next time.
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re: buttertart
The savory version sounds like the roti john that's popular in Singapore. http://thebuddingcook.blogspot.com/20...
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re: buttertart
Could you describe in more detail your SIL's dish? The roti john I'm familiar with was purportedly made for Europeans in Singapore who wanted a fried egg breakfast and the cook wound up using western yeasted bread and eggs together. John was a generic term for westerners. The roti part of the name I think came from roti prata which is an enriched unleavened flatbread, favored for snacks and breakfast. I'm not altogether sure of this etymology, but there were no chapatis in the history, and very little Indian influence either. I'm interested in what royal style means in your family.
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re: Leucadian
http://www.suite101.com/content/roti-...
According to this description, Roti John uses an egg batter than includes mince meat. So it is more of an egg omelet cooked with a sliced roll. Some versions put this omelet inside the roll and then dip the whole thing in egg, somewhat along the lines of a Monte Cristo sandwich.
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re: Leucadian
She takes flour tortillas, dips them in beaten egg, fries one side and then puts what is esssentially small bits of cooked, spiced keema and some extra raw onion, hot pepper, etc, turns them over and fries until done. V tasty. She's from Kolkata, I believe this was something her family cook used to make.
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Thanks everyone for your answers. At least now I don't feel like the ultimate twit for never having seen French toast/pain perdu made this way before. I bought a baguette and it's aging so I can give it a try, but if I still did the dishes myself, I'd never think of forsaking the one bowl method! Lazy is as lazy does! '-)
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re: Caroline1
Well, we did the blind taste test today.
- 3 taste testers
- Day old baguette
- One batch made the Laura Calder way (i.e. 2 step, milk, dip, then egg, dip)
- One batch made the "other" way (i.e. 1 step, dip in milk and egg mixture)The Laura Calder french toasts were soaked in milk for 5 minutes just like her recipe says and the "other" french toasts were soaked in the milk/egg mixture for 30 seconds on each side.
Each toast was cooked on the same CI pan, each sharing half a hemisphere on the pan. Cooked in bacon fat (not butter).
Plated and eaten with no fixings (i.e. no syrup, no fruit, no cream, etc.).
Results? No difference in texture (at least according to my taste-testers) but 2 out of 3 said the Laura Calder french toast definitely tasted more egg-y.
Scientific? Not really.
Instructive? Maybe.
Fun? Absolutely.Cheers.
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re: ipsedixit
You're a good'un, Ipsy! I've been planning a French toast party for days but small disasters (and big) keep taking precedent! I got as far as picking up a big fat loaf of French bread (which Walmart now calls "Italian" bread). The bakery where I can get decent cholla is 8 miles the other direction so I was lazy. BUT...! STRANGE things are happening. Walmart packages their loafs in a plastic sleeve which makes the crust soggy in time. I forgot to take it out, and here's the really strange part: When I bought it, it was a light tan (just golden) color. That was now four days ago. And now it looks like PUMPERNICKEL....! In fact, I bought a boule of pumpernickel at the same time, and they are now the same color, except the pumpernickel is 3/4 gone and the French bread hasn't ever had the twist tie untwisted.. I've never had anything this strange happen before. If it starts glowing in the dark, I'm calling for a HASMAT team! I don't know what to think, but I don't know if I want to eat it. Really really strange.
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re: jfood
Well, not to be outdone by Ipsy Esquire, I decided to try the methods. And yes, I used the strange color changing bread. We'll see if I have a deep tan by morning. '-)
I sliced the bread one and a quarter inches thick. Soaked two slices in milk for three minutes (the two slices had sucked up the full cup of milk, so why soak longer?), dipped them in egg, fried them in butter.
To see if there is a difference if you soak as long in custard, I soaked two slices in custard for three minutes (they didn't drink nearly as deeply as the slices steeped in milk), then fried in butter.
Then did two slices by my usual dipping and coating both sides, no long soaking, and frying in butter.
Conclusions:
Milk soaked bread did produce a nice eggy crust, BUT if I had soaked a full five minutes I would have had to serve it in a cereal bowl! It weeped and seeped milk. Sort of reminded me of soup dumplings or milk toast in a crust. It weeped pools after cutting! Maybe it would have worked better with whipping cream than with milk? Sheesh, the fat content!
Custard soaked bread also produced a nice eggy crust and -- presumably because it was custard soaked -- the interior was custardy but not weepy in puddles all over the plate. Nice.
Custard dipped was my favorite. Interestingly, the custard on the outside made the bread on the inside moist and steamy while frying and maximized the flavor of the egg crust and the flavor of the bread. I would not expect the same result with less flavorful bread, but this was a winner!
So even though my dishwasher doesn't give a damn how many dishes I dirty, I think I'll stay with the one bowl method. Probably Pavlovian conditioning of childhood, but hey, French toast is comfort food, right? Dipping and frying with no soaking is definitely my comfort zone!
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re: Caroline1
So even though my dishwasher doesn't give a damn how many dishes I dirty, I think I'll stay with the one bowl method. Probably Pavlovian conditioning of childhood, but hey, French toast is comfort food, right? Dipping and frying with no soaking is definitely my comfort zone!
_____________________And, really, isn't that whole point of cooking for yourself?
As long as you are happy, everything just seems right, or at least better!
Thanks for sharing your results.
(And, seriously, try it with some heartier bread next time ...)
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re: TrishUntrapped
Ciabatta ... another underrated option for french toast.
But the most underrated (and unheard of -- by me at least) is Fruit Cake. Yes, freaking Fruit Cake. Had it over the holidays. All I can say is, am I glad the holidays are over. Not enough (heavily boozed) eggnog in the world to make that thing go down smooth.
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re: ipsedixit
mmmmm... A really good fruit cake has a batter so dense (and so little of it) it seems to me it would end up more like fruit and nuts tempura. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Have you tried it, and what kind of fruit cake? But hey, on a low fat diet, I might try it with angel food cake! And yes, ciabatta makes GREAT French toast, croissants do not. I think I better stop reading this thread before I end up on a French toast diet! '-)
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We call this "eggy bread" in the UK and that perhaps gives the game away about method - all the online British mentions I can see have it as the egg/milk mix. There may be recipes in the UK - but it's not something I've ever seen or heard of someone actually cooking.
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re: lemons
"And is it also called Poor Knights of Windsor in the UK?"
Wikipedia tells me that we do call it Poor Knights of Windsor. So it must be true, then. :-0
There used to be a real Poor Knights of Windsor, established in the 1300s - effectively a charity for, erm, poor knights. Since the early 1800s, it's been known as the Military Knights of Windsor - provides accommodation at the castle to retired army officers in return for certain ceremonial duties.
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I use the Alton Brown method: half/half, eggs, honey. Mix and let sit overnight. Delish.
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Soak it in egg and milk - but our family difference is that we add sugar (and I also add brandy or vanilla or Grand Marnier) to the custard. I was surprised when I saw restaurants serving syrup with French toast. And the answer to a long soak with Wonder Bread-type bread is a large spatula.
I also advocate a slow heat to make sure the inside isn't still wet.
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re: aggiecat
The other day I made some of the ugliest french toast using eggs, eggnog, and soft wheat bread slices cut in half. I soak the whole bunch, and tossed them in a fry pan too cook. In frying method I was following the chow recipe hootsla
http://www.chow.com/recipes/14332-hoo...It has worked well with pieces of a substantial whole grain bread, but these pieces of wheat sponge got all mangled. Like I said it was ugly, but the taste was ok.
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re: paulj
Best to use slightly stale bread or bake as a french toast casserole (no need to set overnight) when you use eggnog.
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I make French Toast like most Americans do. My one interesting variation is Orange French Toast. I add a hefty dollop of thawed orange juice concentrate to the egg/milk mixture. After it's cooked I grate a little orange rind on top for a garnish. A really nice change of pace every now and then.
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I've only ever made it the way the TV chef did — soak in milk, then dip in egg — that's how my French Canadian (maybe that's the difference?) grandmother taught me. She also used at least day-old baguettes. No sandwich bread of any sort.
Her son, my father, does the mix everything in one bowl method and will use any bread that happens to be in the kitchen.
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I make French Toast the way you do, and so did my mom, which is where I got my method from.
Sometimes I like to soak the bread several hours or overnight. That definitely makes the finished product very souffle-like. Using Challah (or brioche) also enhances the end result, I think. ;)
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I think that French Toast may have been the first dish I ever cooked on my own. My mother taught me and I still use the same method: beat together milk, eggs, sugar, and any flavoring agents (cinnamon and vanilla typically, but sometimes I substitute orange extract for the vanilla), then dip the bread in that mixture.
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I'm with you, Caroline . . . curious to hear what advantage the other method would give . . . .
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re: boredough
That's really interesting. Years ago, I had three French girlfriends, one from Paris, one from Provence, and one from Quebec. They all three made fun of the other two's accents when speaking French, but they all three made French toast the way I do. Very curious! Or maybe they just didn't want to dirty two bowls? It was before dishwashers were a standard household item. Thanks!
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re: Caroline1
Yes, that is interesting. I was only giving an explanation from the Larousse Gastronomique (the French Gastronomic Encyclopedia). It defines 'pain perdu' (what we call French Toast) as stale or leftover bread soaked first in a milk/sugar/vanilla mixture, then dipped in beaten eggs (mixed with a little sugar) and then sautéed in butter. It is the classic recipe.
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re: Caroline1
I just checked a 1965 edition of 'Je sais cuisiner' (the French equivalent of 'Joy of Cooking'), and her method is to combine milk, sugar and eggs (400g stale bread, 1/2 liter milk, 150g sugar, 2 eggs). Fry in 125g butter, finish with powdered sugar and optionally cinnamon. She did not know about maple syrup I guess.
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re: boredough
Can you explain how dipping it in milk then eggs makes for a lighter inside?
I'd imagine the type of bread used would have more effect on the inner/outer texture contrast.
Laura was using a baguette, which by it's very nature will be crusty on the outside and more airy or lighter on the inside.
If I was using, say, day-old Texas toast I'm not sure how this 2-step method would make a difference.
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re: ipsedixit
Years ago, my husband and I drove past a Wonder Bread factory. I was genuinely surprised that it actually smelled like yeast. Even as a child, I was sure it had some type of air-puffed textile, such as cotton, in it. My brothers and I would have contests to see who could get their bread mashed into the smallest cube.
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re: ipsedixit
If the bread is left to soak in a custard mixture, then once you heat the concoction, the eggs will set "inside" the bread - not just outside. That would make it heavier than just soaking the bread in milk. OTOH dipping the bread in beaten eggs will provide an eggier outside than that same custard would. In the end, it's just a matter of personal taste preference.
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re: mcf
I am with you on the Challah, although I also like a good raisin bread. We usually eat a whole grain, but this is a disaster in french toast. I also like a splash of vanilla and a dash of nutmeg or cinnamon, but I've never used sugar in the egg mix. But I also prefer it sprinkled with powdered sugar instead of syrup.
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re: boredough
Also, a quick Google search for "pain perdu" recipes turns up no such 2-step process.
Two examples:
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ina-garten/pain-perdu-recipe/index.html
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I make it the same way you do, sometimes adding cream if I feel like it. I always fry in clarified butter to avoid burning and that does make for a slightly different flavor. (A few years ago I was working in a kitchen store and I happened to say something about milk and French toast to this young woman, and she said "You use milk?" Turns out she'd been taught to just beat the egg, dip the bread in that and fry in vegetable oil. So she thought the milk idea was great, and when I mentioned maple syrup she was in ecstasy!)
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