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richeast Jan 2, 2011 05:03 PM

This is probably the millionth time someone has said,"I am coming to LA and want some really amazing .........etc....". My wife, 3 yr old son and I love food and eat out alot. We are from NYC and I really want to eat some things that NYC doesn't do so well. For instance, food from mexico or thailand or vietnam. We have good sushi and our son loves anything japanese. So, a good Japanese restaurant would be helpful and then what would be surprising? Our budget is small, say up to $15 an entree. We are staying in Marina del Rey thanks to priceline but we will be in and around the rest of the city for a week. I am excited by the posts on taco trucks but is In and Out Burger really that good?

  1. c
    Clyde Jan 4, 2011 11:17 AM

    i'm stongly suggesting korean food because it is so delish in LA. i agree with Jitlada for excellent Thai, or even Daisy Mint if you are in Pasadena. However, for Korean, soot bull jeep is outstanding, so is Parks. if you want to go cheaper, and not bbq, try my new favorite find, Western Doma Noodle. Most entrees are in the 8 dollar range. Check it out on Yelp, that's where i found out about it. Also, try Beverly Soon Tofu - also in the $10 range i believe. It's on Vermont & 9th i think? maybe Olympic. For MEXICAN food- Yes, you must try it. There are so many places to choose from. If you are in the Highland Park area- check out Jonathan Gold's recommendations- My Taco, Harache Azteca, etc etc. If you are in the Hollywood area- try Lotteria Grill. Or, back to the HP area- try Cacao Mexicatessan in Eagle Rock. I realize that Highland Park and Eagle Rock are a trek from Marina Del Rey. I'm a NY transplant myself, so just stay away from Pizza and Bagels here and you'll be fine! Re: IN & OUT, i totally like it but for as cheap as it is, how can you not? I say if you are here a week, go for it. Also, since you will be staying so close to Santa Monica, try to make it to the Wed morning Farmers Market off the 3rd street Promenade. It's huge and you can pick up some fresh fruits and nuts and stuff like that to snack on for the remainder of your stay. Try some oysters from one of the vendors and eat them staring at the ocean.

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    Jitlada
    5233 1/2 W Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90027

    Beverly Soon Tofu Restaurant
    2717 W Olympic Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90006

    Daisy Mint
    1218 E Colorado Blvd, Pasadena, CA

    My Taco Restaurant
    6300 York Blvd Ste 4, Los Angeles, CA 90042

    1. E Eto Jan 3, 2011 10:16 PM

      If you're looking for cuisines not so easily found in NYC, then I'd suggest Persian, Cajun/Creole, and Doughnuts. You can find good versions of these in relative proximity to you in MdR. You'll find a number of Persian restaurants near Westwood Blvd/Santa Monica Blvd (Shamshiri, Sharzad, Javan, etc., search and ye shall find). Most tend to be kid friendly and serve family style. Also look for Persian style ice cream at the shop on Westwood just south of Santa Monica. Try the ones flavored with orange blossom or saffron, among others, or the falludeh.

      For Cajun/Creole, you'll have to venture a bit east in the area between Inglewood and South LA. I have a special connection to Harold & Belle's, but it's smack in the middle of a lonely residential area. Of course, you'll have Uncle Darrow's within a stone's throw from you in MdR. (Bayou Grille is also a good choice).

      There are lots of good classic doughtnut shops to sample in LA, but the standouts in the westside might be Primo's on Sawtelle (near National/I-10) for the classics like maple bars, old fashioned, apple fritters; and Stan's in Westwood Village for something more unique like the peanutbutter pocket, or the peanutbutter/banana or blueberry fritters. For something just as good, check out Bob's in the Farmer's Market (my favorite glazed and apple fritters).

      Some other thoughts. It draws a lot of controversy on these boards, but you might want to add the Apple Pan to your list of burger places. It's a very classic LA institution. I would also say you'll find a lot better breakfast choices in LA than you have in NYC. I really enjoy the Original Pancake House chain for their oversized pancakes, especially the apple or the dutch baby. Places like Pann's will also provide a good morning meal, as well as John O'Groats, or the aforementioned Uncle Darrow's. There are many more choices for good hearty breakfasts, unlike much of the boring generic diner fare that dominates the scene in NYC.

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      Apple Pan
      10801 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90064

      Pann's Restaurant & Coffee Shop
      6710 La Tijera Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90045

      John O'Groats
      10516 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90064

      Harold & Belle's Restaurant
      2920 W Jefferson Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90018

      Uncle Darrow's
      2560 Lincoln Blvd, Venice, CA 90291

      1 Reply
      1. re: E Eto
        Servorg Jan 4, 2011 03:57 AM

        I don't think Primo's does old fashioned apple fitters (not that I've ever seen and I'm there every Saturday). They do a wonderful apple turnover and their buttermilk bars (glazed or plain or plain that have been chocolate dipped) are things of consummate and consumable beauty.

      2. b
        bulavinaka Jan 3, 2011 08:33 PM

        Our always reliable posters have offered up some great recs. You mentioned your (average?) budget per as well as being in the MdR area as your home base. I live in the same general area - the Westside - and I'll try to offer some tidbits that hopefully will be helpful based on your info relative to the recs.

        Driving is a way of life here in LA. Drive times can vary quite a bit depending on which direction you're headed, which part of town you're going to, and what time you hit the road. I'll give estimated travel times as much as possible, but they are average times based on decent traffic flow. I personally don't like to drive any further than 25-30 minutes, and I definitely don't like the torture that one has to experience when driving to places like Hollywood, Korea Town, Mid-Wilshire areas from the Westside. There's treasure to be had in those areas, but the drive can be insane. As a rule, hit the road early, late, or between rush hours. If you're on vacation, you will hopefully have this luxury of picking times to drive.

        Korean kicks ass here in LA. The only problem is traffic. It's quite a grinding drive from MdR to Korea Town (I'd say 35-45 minutes, each mile closer gets tougher), so just be wary of that. With that said, Park's BBQ is probably a good choice considering you have a toddler in tow. They're a lot more user-friendly, and the quality is excellent - this experience would be worth the drive. If for some reason K-Town doesn't pan out and you must have Korean bbq, Wharo on Lincoln in MdR is very close by. They're not bad at all - just now wow-inducing like a place like Park's.

        Porthos is probably one of the most knowledged and experienced sushi-philes I've ever come across. His advice will be well-heeded on the Japanese cuisine issue. However, there is a lot of Japanese food to be had in LA. Torrance is the current epicenter, and Torihei is stellar. Musha in Santa Monica was mentioned - Torrance has a bigger (and IMHO) better Musha which is across the parking lot from Torihei. Torrance is about 25 minutes from MdR (mostly on the 405 frwy). West LA has a good number of Japanese eateries condensed on Sawtelle Blvd, north of Olympic - Little Osaka (about 15-20 min.). Hide was mentioned and will keep you within budget for the most part. While Downtown LA has Little Tokyo, it's a tough drive on the 10/110, the parking kinda sucks, and while there area good restaurants there, I'd rather utilize my efforts and $$ going somewhere more easily accessible. The bad part about Japanese cuisine is that it has the highest potential to ruin your budget. The good thing is if you choose an izakaya or yakitori-type of place where ordering/sharing small plates is the norm, the average eater will probably keep within budget overall (food only). Poster Ciao Bob has given you a shortlist of izakaya/yakitori places well worth trying. I really like Izakaya Bincho on the Redondo Beach Pier, but I think it would be a pretty far drive from MdR just to hit one place - about 35 minutes.

        In N Out is pretty good to most folks. I'm a dissenter only because their fries bite the big one. They're soggy and oily. If this isn't your type of fry either, follow the advice of having them fried well done. It's still an average fry at best, but far better than their normal one. The closest In N Out is on Washington, one block east of Lincoln, in the Costco shopping center. Go early as the place is out of hand by noon. IMHO, 26 Beach should replace any visiting hound's burger interest while visiting the immediate area, because they have one-of-a-kind renditions that are crazy at first glance, but your tastebuds will tell you that you did yourself right. 26 Beach is also closer to the heart of MdR, and easier to access. The quality here is first rate - and you will pay for it relative to In N Out, but IMHO, well worth the visit. Their salads are great as well, as are most things on the menu. The owners take great pride in their efforts. The portions are huge, so order accordingly.

        Mexican food is pretty good in the Westside, and it's budget-friendly. The real deal is further out toward the general East LA area, where street names like, Soto, Broadway, and Cesar Chavez are the lay of the land. Mariscos Chente was mentioned with good reason. Seafood cuisine from the Sinaloa/Nayarit area of Mexico. Find a great rendition of that in NYC and you can cancel thoughts of going. Otherwise, make the effort. The location closest to you is on Centinela, between Culver and Short Ave (about five minutes from MdR). It's fallen out of favor with many hounds because the man who started all the praise - Sergio Penuelos - has moved his talents to the Inglewood location. But the Centinela location is still very good (Sergio just makes where ever he goes A++). Order the pescado zarandeado (pz) and you will walk out with sauce on your face and hands, a full tummy and a big-ass smile on your face. I have yet to take someone there who hasn't first been a little shaken up by the presentation only to be coaxed into trying some, then transforming into an expert filleted fish picker. This dish is charged by the kilo, and the sizes of the fish (snook) will vary, but one about 1-1 1/2 kilos should do you fine. This is not a spicy dish - vary savory and umami-filled goodness. The other dishes can have varying levels of heat - just thinking of your toddler - so it's best to ask what will work for the family.

        Monte Alban is probably the best Oaxacan within a reasonable distance from MdR. Definitely hit this place up if you want another more unique Mexican cuisine experience that probably isn't very prevalent elsewhere. Their moles are very good, but so is their goat as well as their pork leg. This part of West LA is probably about 15-25 minutes from MdR.

        More basic taqueria food can be had at Taqueria Sanchez (on Centinela across from Mariscos Chente), and Tacomiendo on Inglewood or further out on Gateway. La Oaxaquena taco truck that parks on Lincoln, just south of Rose Avenue in Venice (about 5-10 minutes from MdR) only is there from about 6PM-? but is worth the effort as well.

        Another delicious Mexican food option would be Cemitas Poblanas - a regional Mexican sandwich. Two trucks serve this type of sandwich - one on Venice Blvd west of Cataragus in the Palms neighborhood (parked in front of the Smart & Final) from about 11AM to 4 or 5 PM, and another one on Inglewood Blvd, north of Braddock Drive in Culver City/Mar Vista (in front of the Top Valu Market). This one usually operates there from about 4PM to 10 or 11PM. Each is operated by two brothers respectively, and I consider both to be very good. Chow consensus is that the one on Venice Blvd is better. The one on Inglewood Blvd is much closer to you, and is a block from Sanchez Meat Market (with full taqueria counter in front) and Tacomiendo (mentioned already in this thread). The salsas they use are pretty potent so if you're heat averse, ask them to either go light, omit, or have the salsa in a container. They use a chile paste (the name slips my memory) that is standard unless you ask otherwise, and they also have deep earthy salsa roja as well. The milanesa de pollo (chicken) and milanesa de res (beef) are probably the most popular, but the carnitas, al pastor and buche are good as well. I also like thier huaraches (with carnitas for me) as well. I consider myself to be a healthy eater, and one cemitas along with a huarache to share usually tops me off.

        Some have made brief mention of Chinese cuisine. The San Gabriel Valley is neck deep with great Chinese eateries from many regions (and a very strong representation of Vietnamese as well), as this extension of LA-proper as substantial Chinese and Vietnamese population. Those in the know about Chinese in LA vs NYC will tell you that the San Gabriel Valley trumps NYC in this category. At the same time, it is a drive - about 45 minutes to an hour. The drive isn't bad as long as the freeways are moving though. I try to head out to here at least a couple of times a month, and am almost always well rewarded with seriously great eats. If you're interested, let us know. Vietnamese cuisine is pretty strong out here as well - not strong as Little Saigon - in North Orange County - but the drive out to this part of OC is probably 60-70 minutes on average. Again - if you're interested, just say so.

        Thai food is in Thai Town - part of Hollywood in general - and it's about a 25-40 minute drive. Jitlada is Chow favorite, but you might also consider Yai, Palms Thai, Ruen Pair and Sapp Coffee Shop.

        Two sources of info that are worth bookmarking are just about anything that Jonathan Gold from the LA Weekly writes about (just my opinion). He tends to be somewhat non-judgmental (meaning he wants you to decide if it's your bag) and subjective in his reviews, but is very well written and is responsible for introducing many a foodie to places, dishes, and cuisines that might otherwise be overlooked. Poster exilekiss has a serious almost work ethic-like attitude toward places that he tries, he gives each several shots before writing about them, has great taste, is well-written, and has a great blog. He is very objective in his analysis, and has a point-rating system that most would consider to be very accurate. Keep these two by your hip, and many of your food dreams will come true.

        http://www.laweekly.com/restaurants/
        http://exilekiss.blogspot.com/

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        Park's BBQ
        955 S. Vermont Ave, Suite G, Los Angeles, CA 90006

        26 Beach
        3100 Washington Blvd., Venice, CA 90292

        Jitlada
        5233 1/2 W Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90027

        Ruen Pair Restaurant
        5257 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90027

        Monte Alban
        11927 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA

        Taqueria Sanchez
        4541 S Centinela Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90066

        Musha
        1725 W Carson St, Torrance, CA 90501

        Tacomiendo
        4502 Inglewood Blvd, Culver City, CA 90230

        Sanchez Meat
        4525 Inglewood Blvd, Culver City, CA

        Palms Thai Restaurant
        5900 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90028

        Sapp Coffee Shop
        5183 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90027

        Yai Restaurant
        5757 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA

        Mariscos Chente
        10020 Inglewood Ave, Lennox, CA 90304

        Izakaya Bincho
        112 N International Boardwalk, Redondo Beach, CA 90277

        Torihei
        1757 W. Carson Street, Torrance, CA 90501

        Smart & Final
        10113 Venice Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90034

        Wharo
        4029 Lincoln Blvd, Marina Del Rey, CA 90292

        Top Valu Market
        4700 Inglewood Blvd, Culver City, CA 90230

        1 Reply
        1. re: bulavinaka
          Ciao Bob Jan 4, 2011 07:23 AM

          Brevity may be the soul of wit, but the LA "ethnic" dining scene doesn't lend itself to brevity without lancing lacunae. Bulavinaka, what a great job you done in orienting visitors to the disorienting world we live -- and chow -- in..

          My feeling, though, with all due respect is that you have overstated the irritations of driving for a visitor. When one is managing one’s day-to-day activities, IMHO, it is far worse than when one is visiting. I don't want the OP or others to avoid the car if they want to experience the chow-richness we have here...in fact, they CAN'T.

          Before I lived here I visited often as my Dad had relocated here and I loved driving from eating spot to eating spot getting the feel for the many, many places in LA we call home(s).

        2. Porthos Jan 3, 2011 04:32 PM

          NYC does Japanese and sushi very well and IMO does it better than LA does. There are heavy hitting Japanese ramen chains in NYC while LA has none. NYC also does yakitori and izakaya very well so I wouldn't necessarily throw out Musha, Izayoi, or other decent but not stellar izakayas. If you must do Japanese, Torihei in Torrance may have a few items not seen in a NYC izakaya (eg soft boiled egg with salmon roe), but its a bit of a drive.

          Mariscos Chente is a great suggestion.

          I don't know if In-N-Out is superior to shake shack. It's probably about the same level burger so its your call.

          Park's BBQ is a great suggestion as the Korean options in Manhattan proper is a bit weak but its also over $15/entree.

          Go with the taco trucks. Vietnamese is also weak in NYC but I usually get my fixes in Westminster which is a significant drive south and I'm not sure if its worth it if you're only in town for a few days. Thai is a great thought. Jitlada is good for more interesting/funky southern thai dishes. I like Ruen Pair for standard run of the mill thai stuff. Also, dim sum is much stronger in LA than in NYC. Try Elite or Sea Harbour. The former is more creative and has higher highs IMO.

          Din Tai Fung is good for a style of soup dumplings completely different from the likes of Joe's Shanghai or New Green Bo.

          Stick with more of the Mexican and Chinese/Korean/Thai/Vietnamese spectrum of dining than the Japanese stuff if you're looking for what LA does better than NYC

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          Din Tai Fung Restaurant
          1108 S Baldwin Ave, Arcadia, CA 91007

          Park's BBQ
          955 S. Vermont Ave, Suite G, Los Angeles, CA 90006

          Jitlada
          5233 1/2 W Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90027

          Ruen Pair Restaurant
          5257 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90027

          Izayoi
          132 S Central Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90012

          Mariscos Chente
          4532 S Centinela Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90066

          Torihei
          1757 W. Carson Street, Torrance, CA 90501

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          1. re: Porthos
            r
            richeast Jan 3, 2011 05:28 PM

            Thanks Everyone! I am so excited by the suggestions. Luckily we have ten meals to fill and some breakfasts here and there. I need to go to Monte Alban for Oaxacan for sure and I everything else will be gravy. as they say. thanks again and I'll report back a.s.a.p.

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            Monte Alban
            11927 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA

          2. j
            Jase Jan 3, 2011 09:20 AM

            Welcome to LA!

            I'd heavily second the choice for Monte Alban for Oaxacan. It is close enough to MDR and their prices will be well within your budget and still give you a fantastic Mexican food experience that you won't find in NYC.

            If you're interested in a taco truck experience, there is a truck on Lincoln near Rose. You want the one at night, they make a great clayuda. Their tacos aren't bad but the clayuda is very good. Get one to split as they are large.

            Also second the Mexicali Taco stand. Their meats are a considerable step up from most taco places. It's in downtown LA with plenty of parking, the people are extremely friendly and the price to quality and quantity ratio is ridiculous good.

            For Japanese, another inexpensive option near you would be Santouka Ramen inside the Mitsuwa food court off Centinela. Great ramen, you'll be in a food court with minimal ambiance. But it will be inexpensive, about $8-9 depending on choice for a very filling and flavorful bowl. The one most people start with is the shio or salt ramen. All choices come in small, regular or large bowls. Be forewarned that these are very filling and for most a large is a lot of food. They have a display showing each kind but it can be deceiving how big it is.

            I love In and Out and grew up with it. That said, I'd say go in with realistic expectations if you decide to go. It's a good fast food burger and pretty cheap if you get a double double. There's one on Washington near Lincoln. Maybe grab one to split as you're coming home from the freeway on your way back to MDR just to try it. It's in the same center as Costco and that parking lot can be a little hectic. If you were hard pressed for time and stomach space, I'd would not recommend it heavily.

            There's plenty of good value and inexpensive Japanese in the Sawtelle corridor between Olympic and Santa Monica blvd. Two different kinds of curry houses. I'd stay away from the ramen places. Hide is cash only but good value and quality sushi, a favorite of this board. Furaibo is also there, a fun izakaya. We actually prefer Nanbankan near the corner of Santa Monica and Sawtelle for skewers an izakaya style small plates. With a 3 year old, I think Nanbankan would be better as it's a little more sedate than Furaibo which might be a little too crowded and loud for a young kid. Nanbankan also has dinner sets which are a good value. The cheapest is about $20, you get a variety of skewers, rice, veggies and dessert. Make reservations if you go.

            For Thai food, Jitlada is definitely a board fave. They can get busy and service a bit slow. It's not a problem if you're aware of it but some newcomers go in seeming like they're expecting fine dining service.

            Have fun and report back!

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            Jitlada
            5233 1/2 W Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90027

            Monte Alban
            11927 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA

            Santouka Ramen
            21515 S Western Ave, Torrance, CA 90501

            Centinela Cafe
            4800 S Centinela Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90066

            1. Ciao Bob Jan 3, 2011 08:41 AM

              My $.02 -- In-and-Out is nothing special at all, hardly better than McD/BK/Wendy's.

              These days most burgs, and of course NYC, have terrific sushi. The thing LA has far more than most is great non-sushi Japanese - fantastic udon/soba/ramen (Kotohira, Otofuko, Oumi Sasaya, Santouka), great izakaya and yakitori joints (Nanbankan, Kokeekoko), or pubs (Musha and Torahei).

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              1. re: Ciao Bob
                wienermobile Jan 3, 2011 08:51 AM

                Anthony Bourdain was recently interviewed and extolled the virtues of the In-n-Out Burger. The first thing he does when he arrives in LA is go to the In-n-Out next to LAX and get a large to-go order for his hotel room and I have to agree with his cravings.

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                  j
                  jsandler Jan 3, 2011 08:59 AM

                  Plus Gordon Ramsey has said that In-n-Out would be his choice for his last meal.

                  1. re: jsandler
                    ipsedixit Jan 3, 2011 09:06 AM

                    I think debating the merits of In N Out is sort of Sisphysian -- there are those who are ardent supporters and others who find it no better than just "another burger".

                    Whenever the question of whether In N Out is worthwhile for an out-of-towner pops up on the LA Board, I just think that the best answer is "As an out-of-towner, if you have to ask, then you have to try it for yourself and make your own determination."

                    1. re: ipsedixit
                      Servorg Jan 3, 2011 09:09 AM

                      You're not exactly risking the family fortune...

                      1. re: Servorg
                        wienermobile Jan 3, 2011 10:58 AM

                        You're not exactly risking the family fortune...
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                        You might be if you order a 4 by 4.

                        1. re: wienermobile
                          Servorg Jan 3, 2011 11:09 AM

                          What is these days? $6?

                          1. re: Servorg
                            wienermobile Jan 3, 2011 11:13 AM

                            I think it's $6.75.
                            Found this on line when they still used to make them as big as you wanted,
                            a 120×120 was 117.33 including tax.
                            Now a 4x4 is as big as In n Out will go and even that is too big for me.

              2. Servorg Jan 3, 2011 06:57 AM

                You can sample some excellent Oaxacan food fairly close to Marina Del Rey (MDR) in the West LA area (just barely outside the eastern boundary of Santa Monica) at Monte Alban. For just plain old (but very good Mexican fair) you should seek out Tacomiendo in either of its two locations (also fairly close to MDR)

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                Monte Alban
                11927 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA

                Tacomiendo
                4502 Inglewood Blvd, Culver City, CA 90230

                Tacomiendo
                11462 Gateway Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90064

                1. goodhealthgourmet Jan 2, 2011 05:41 PM

                  check out Mariscos Chente for excellent Mexican seafood. there are several locations, so be sure to hit the one on Imperial Highway in Inglewood - it's an easy drive from MDR. the address in the "places" link is wrong, so here's the correct info:

                  Mariscos Chente
                  3544 W Imperial Hwy, Inglewood, CA 90303
                  (310) 672-2339

                  and ipse gave you some excellent suggestions.

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                  Mariscos Chente
                  10020 Inglewood Ave, Lennox, CA 90304

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                  1. re: goodhealthgourmet
                    b
                    Burger Boy Jan 2, 2011 06:42 PM

                    In n Out is great but you can have a great fast food burger anywhere. For breakfast, amazing french toasts, try 26 Beach Restaurant right on Washington just west of Lincoln. 26 Beach also does an amazing array of gourmet hamburgers. Mexicali Tacos & Co. does some great tacos and things, they are open wednesday-saturday and located in a parking lot at 1st & Beaudry in Downtown, subject to the weather. Enjoy your stay.

                    http://www.yelp.com/biz/mexicali-taco...

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                    26 Beach
                    3100 Washington Blvd., Venice, CA 90292

                    Mexicali Taco & Co
                    1820 Industrial Street, Los Angeles, CA 90021

                  2. ipsedixit Jan 2, 2011 05:25 PM

                    Go to Soot Bull Jeep for Korean BBQ. It is the best Korean BBQ that fits within your budget. Park's BBQ is better, but also pricier.

                    Jitlada for Thai.

                    For sushi near Marina Del Rey, try Irori. For Japanese try Musha in nearby Santa Monica.

                    Re: In N Out. Whether it is worth it will depend on the individual. Since it's already piqued your interest, you might as well try it or else you'll go back to NYC always left wondering with lingering doubt if you've missed out on something extraordinary.

                    Let us know if you have other questions.

                    Enjoy your visit.

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                    Park's BBQ
                    955 S. Vermont Ave, Suite G, Los Angeles, CA 90006

                    Jitlada
                    5233 1/2 W Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90027

                    Soot Bull Jeep
                    3136 W 8th St, Los Angeles, CA 90005

                    Musha
                    424 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90401

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                    1. re: ipsedixit
                      m
                      mc michael Jan 2, 2011 07:09 PM

                      You're probably not going to be that wowed by In N Out, but to avoid second guessing by people who have been you have to have a double-double animal style and the fries well done. It's probably better than Shake Shack but with a similar cache.

                      1. re: mc michael
                        b
                        burntwater Jan 3, 2011 07:40 AM

                        I agree with mc michael

                        I say you should give In and Out a try. It's not the best or the worst LA has to offer but it's inexpensive and worth a trip for your own burger edification.
                        If you do decide to go you won't find Animal Style on the menu.
                        It's a specific way to have your burger done.

                        Here is a list of customizations you can have done to your burger that are not mentioned on the menu. http://www.badmouth.net/in-n-outs-sec...

                        I can't recall if it's better then the Shake Shack or not. It's been a while since I've had a burger from there but they do move the line a lot faster.

                        1. re: burntwater
                          r
                          richeast Jan 3, 2011 05:17 PM

                          I Like the idea of a double double animal style and I love a crisp fry! thanks mc.
                          Shake shack is good but only for new york. My hometown of Peoria, IL had burgers just as good or better while growing up. So, I kinda shrug my shoulders at the lines at SS and go to Pauls in the east village. You should try it next time in NY burntwater.

                          1. re: richeast
                            b
                            burntwater Jan 3, 2011 11:12 PM

                            Rich, thanks for the recommendation.

                            I happened to stumble upon Paul's walking around the East Village.
                            I wasn't intending to go there at the time but it was one of the places my NYC friends had mentioned to me so I checked it out. I would frequent the Corner Bistro the most for my quick burger fix since it's only a few minutes walking distance from where I stay in New York.

                            In Venice Beach we have dive bar / burger institution called the Hinano.
                            Although totally different they are similar to me.

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