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Dec 28, 2010 02:27 PM

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When you sub-divided all the watered down the level of conversation. Its not working

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  1. Agreed. And it doesn't help that the site has been further watered down due to increased, almost anal,moderation. It seems that ANY post not strictly related to regional food in the regional boards is deleted. No place for humor. No mention of other things to do in a given region. No fun allowed.

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    1. re: CapeCodGuy

      It's a regional board, on a food board on a food site. Time and place for everything, right?

      The food in our own areas matter the most, no? And, dividing the boards help promote those conversations. The only thing I don't like about it is the envy. Close enough to NYC to take a peek, but not close enough that I can try everything I want to.

    2. The major complaint on CH for so many years was that of too large of a geographic area being covered (and dominated by the major cities within that area) by one board. For a very long time California only had SF and LA/OC as separate boards. The folks in San Diego finally got out from under the shadow of those two light sucking black holes and they are much happier for it. We still get complaints about the folks in Sacramento wanting their own board. I normally am looking for recommendations on where to eat in my local area. That is true at least 95% of the time. Why would I want to wade through a bunch of extraneous posts about places in Santa Barbara or Palm Springs or San Diego?

      1. curious, what region(s) are you talking about?

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        1. re: jen kalb

          If you question is to me regarding the increased level of heavy-handed moderation, I'd have to say that is for ALL regions, but particularly So. New England.

          1. re: CapeCodGuy

            When you write "No mention of other things to do in a given region." I get the impression you think that we should be able to talk about local "attractions" in our replies. I am of the opinion that why most of us come to our local boards (and why this site it as beloved by most of its community as it is) is that we don't have to wade through a lot of extraneous material that has nothing to do with food. Opening the flood gates to "other" topics would be the death knell for CH as I know (and love it).

            1. re: Servorg

              I can best reply by quoting another member here:

              "Moderating flames, rants, etc, is one thing, but stopping the natural conversational flow in order to try to enforce the idea of what a board should be is counter-productive. It makes the mods feel like Big Brother and ruins the community that these boards can naturally create."

              All I'm saying that a lessening of strict moderation would enhance the conversation, not dilute it.

              1. re: CapeCodGuy

                That's why CH created and maintains the Not About Food board. But when it comes to local, food driven boards I (and most others here) want to see local food sources discussed without bringing in general topics that can and are discussed many other places on the Internet. So, if having those types of more wide ranging discussions are important to you, then do so on one of the places that exist for that very purpose.

                1. re: Servorg

                  I guess you haven't noticed the many longtime and profuse posters who used to post here but have moved on due to the site being overmoderated since CBS swallowed the site up. Maybe you prefer homogeny. I do not. Site traffic has also fallen off the map as a direct result. Shame.

                  1. re: CapeCodGuy

                    The same complaint has been lodged here on Site Talk every year since I began posting on CH in 2001.

                    1. re: Servorg

                      So does that make the complaint any less valid today? Or negate the fact the problem is now worse? Cripes, even THIS thread has had a few posts removed arbitrarily and for what? Is this not the place to voice displeasure or gripes?

                      1. re: CapeCodGuy

                        Yes, the complaint isn't valid to me. You are lodging a complaint because you aren't getting exactly what you want. Except you are one voice on a community of many. And most of us come here looking for exactly what the site delivers. We are all here of our free will. I post and read along knowing exactly what is expected of me. If I couldn't (or wouldn't) abide by the site rules I would move to a site that did allow me the freedom to post other, extraneous information. But I come here BECAUSE this site doesn't allow that amount of noise to pollute the signal. I used to participate a lot more on the Not About Food board. But I became disenchanted with it mostly because of the chatter. If my local board gets overrun with off topic chat then I will become a casualty of mission creep.

                        1. re: Servorg

                          Your "one voice" argument goes out the window when you see how the site traffic has deteriorated, and I maintain that it's entirely about over-Moderation.

                          I love the site, and like you have been here for many years. I just hate to see the loss of many long time posters due to this situation.

                          1. re: CapeCodGuy

                            I think the site traffic figures seek to identify unique users - this site mainly lives on participation by a cadre of individuals who hang around a lot -

                            I dont think the deterioration is overmoderation at all - if anything it is the clunkiness of this site as a source for specific info and yes, discussion of specific restaurants. Our discussions are wonderful but they dont link effectively to a restaurant/rating database and for people looking for hard info and user reviews , our site is falling behind. Then, with all the food bloggers and food writing going on elsewhere online around the world, people have a lot more forums than they did in the late 90s to write about and discuss food

                            I just wish CHOW management would be more effective building off our community strengths the enthusiasm and passion of chowhound who havent gone off and started their own blogs but bring their energy here. It wouldnt take much - just a friendlier interface with proper mapping and easier data entry - to get people interacting on restaurant reviews etc. and this would flow into the boards.

                            And yes, for the regional issues - its hard to see why some of the splits were necessary - just adding an input field for major cities or regions would have allowed the larger boards to stay intact while identifying clearly the geographic area that the post relates to.

            2. re: CapeCodGuy

              sorry I guess I was careless. was really asking what regions were experiencing diluted discussion.

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            1. speaking from a PNW perspective, the board split of Portland and Seattle left us with almost no population centers for the board. No critical mass, hence most posts are from tourists passing through our beautiful but vacant area. Don't know how to correct such a thing. It is what it is.