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Whiting, baby flounder and Smelt

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dbwave Dec 26, 2010 03:34 PM

Need these for a Spanish fish fry. Any suggestion on where to find?

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    dbwave Feb 24, 2011 04:28 PM

    So unforntunately I stuck out on both Baby Flounder and Whiting. Seaside market checked and the best they could do is baby sole from Europe.

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      lyn Feb 26, 2011 01:20 PM

      too bad there are no fresh sardines around. They would work well. I have looked everywhere to no avail. Whole foods said they may get them one day.

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        ospreycove Feb 26, 2011 01:30 PM

        In some states there are minimum size regs. on flounder/fluke.

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          juantanamera Feb 26, 2011 03:24 PM

          http://www.baitbarge.com/danapoint.html

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            bizzwriter Feb 26, 2011 03:41 PM

            Ditto San Diego bait barges (though you need a boat to get to them!):

            http://www.baitbarge.com/bait.html

            http://www.baitbarge.com/images/Image...

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              lyn Feb 26, 2011 06:31 PM

              so bait barge would require:
              1) a new friend with a boat that will take me out there,as well as maybe other boating places for some beer and/or wine for sipping for the ride.
              2) a new friend who would help me learn to clean them (you really would only need to gut them, right? scales would be ok, wouldnt they be?)

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                bizzwriter Feb 27, 2011 12:17 AM

                You're on the right track!

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                  cstr Feb 27, 2011 07:52 AM

                  Scales gota go as well. Then there's filleting, something you get better at with experience.

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                    lyn Feb 27, 2011 10:10 AM

                    The sardine I thinking of, the ones I had in spain and southern italy (and of all places, cleveland), where whole, head on, and had the bones. They were small enough to eat bones and all. The entire fish, head to tail ranged from about 4-6 inches. They were grilled on a flat grill in olive oil.

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                      cstr Feb 27, 2011 01:56 PM

                      You're correct, the bones are very fine and can be easily broken down, it's a texture thing and no scales. Also, they're excellent grilled with some EVOO and S&P. Some Atlantic species are referred to as smelts.

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              dbwave Feb 26, 2011 06:22 PM

              I have seen them fresh at Whole Foods before. I had fresh sardines at Cul Inst of America in Napa a few months ago. Amazing!

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            dbwave Jan 3, 2011 12:44 PM

            Sorry to take so long. Point Loma nor Pelly's would special order. Ranch 99 has smelt but not baby flounder or whiting. Seaside Market says they can order after the storms subside in the East Coast. Fishing boats are not going out right now.

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              Cathy Jan 8, 2011 07:42 AM

              Northgate Gonzalez also has previously frozen headless smelts.

               
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              dbwave Dec 27, 2010 09:36 PM

              Great information. I will call Point Loma, Pelly's and then look at Ranch 99 tomorrow and post my findings. Thanks!

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              4856 N Harbor Dr, San Diego, CA 92106

              1. DZRTJUL Dec 27, 2010 02:07 PM

                If you are in coastal North County call Pelly's Fish Market, they will be able to get you what ever you need.

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                7110 Avenida Encinas # 101, Carlsbad, CA

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                  steveprez Dec 27, 2010 12:29 PM

                  Smelt and baby flounder can be found at Ranch 99 and Mitsuwa Market. Either fresh or frozen depending on the season.

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                    scunge Dec 27, 2010 01:15 PM

                    Frozen whitings aren't all that bad . Fillets or whole broiled,fried,sauté etc. I enjoy a soup with whiting ,fennel bulb,olives,onions capers,and wine. I'll add different shell fish and serve over shell pasta or couscous .So again frozen whiting is ok

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                    Cathy Dec 27, 2010 05:40 AM

                    Smelt are from the Great Lakes. Caught in the spring. Because they are frozen over now.

                    Flounder are from the Northern Atlantic Ocean (fluke are like flounder and can be caught in the summer in the Pacific).

                    Whiting are in the East Atlantic and Mediterranean.

                    None will be found fresh here.

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                      cstr Dec 27, 2010 06:53 AM

                      Smelts, like what I think the OP and I are referring to, are ocean going fish, primarily the North Alantic.

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                        honkman Dec 27, 2010 09:18 AM

                        Flounders are also from the Pacific Ocean (and according to the Seafood watch list the better alternative to the Atlantic ones).

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                          hye Jan 18, 2011 01:38 AM

                          Pacific Whiting aka Pacific Hake are found all along the west coast.
                          same for California Flounder / California Halibut.

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                          cstr Dec 27, 2010 05:21 AM

                          Smelts are pretty much an east coast fish. Maybe Point Loma Seafood can order them for you. As for flounder, Pacific coast sole should accommodate you.

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