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NY style deli opening soon in Chapel Hill

bbqme Dec 24, 2010 07:50 PM

Found this out via Indyweek.


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    tamalesfordinner RE: bbqme Dec 24, 2010 09:31 PM

    I am going to try and overlook that they misspell "delicatessen" several times on their website and hopehopehope that this happens and I can take my husband out for a bowl of matzo ball soup somewhere local and SOON.

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      tamalesfordinner RE: tamalesfordinner Dec 25, 2010 04:56 PM

      omg, they misspell delicatessen EVERYWHERE. On their facebook page, in every instance on their website. I should really let this go, but I've never seen anyone misspell the name of their own business quite so many times before.

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        omoshiroi RE: tamalesfordinner Dec 25, 2010 06:18 PM

        Also, who ever heard of Jewish Medicine as a pseudonym for chicken (or matzo ball) soup? It's always been Jewish penicillin in my little world....

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          Tom from Raleigh RE: tamalesfordinner Dec 27, 2010 05:40 AM

          I thought you were being picky about the spelling issue, when I went to the website I noticed the misspelled Triangle as well. Hopefully the food is better than the website.

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            tamalesfordinner RE: Tom from Raleigh Dec 27, 2010 10:41 AM

            thank you, Tom :-) I've lived in the Triangle for 18 years and there have always been tales of "this place in Raleigh" that never turns into anything, certainly never a bowl of matzoh ball soup! I have my fingers crossed that this place opens soon and we can get a good meal there.

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              Rory RE: tamalesfordinner Dec 28, 2010 03:59 PM

              okay, this cranky New Yorker is game to go...

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        dixdiner RE: bbqme Dec 29, 2010 12:28 PM

        Check out the menu and you'll see they offer ham, cheese and bacon. You won't find these at a NYC kosher deli, but, I suppose, better to have what kosher-style offerings they have than none at all.

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          romansperson RE: dixdiner Dec 29, 2010 07:17 PM

          I don't think a true kosher place could work here - not a large enough population to support it.

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            blewgo RE: romansperson Dec 30, 2010 06:22 PM

            There was a news story about the decline of the Kosher Deli in NYC on one of the TV morning shows the other day. NYC has gone from many hundreds to barely 10 over the years. Dixdiner is correct, kosher would not work in practice here regardless what is said on this and other boards.

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          Remsleep RE: bbqme Jan 4, 2011 01:22 PM

          What? No whitefish salad?

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            rockycat RE: Remsleep Jan 4, 2011 03:42 PM

            BJ's carries the big tubs of Acme whitefish salad at a really good price. Odds are any local deli would be using the restaurant-pack of Acme anyhow. Save yourself the middleman markup and just buy it at the store - says the person who usually orders whitefish on a bagel at NY Bagel, knowing full well that it's Acme because they don't hide the container. :-)

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              burgeoningfoodie RE: Remsleep Jan 5, 2011 04:58 AM

              Per the Independent last week or so..

              Look for the first week of January to bring the opening of Streets Deli & Market (N.C. 54 at U.S. 15-501, www.streetsdeli.com, 537-8414) in Chapel Hill's East 54 development. Streets owner Greg Christon, who was born and raised in New York and spent 15 years in New Jersey, says that the restaurant will offer a "big city-style" kosher deli and fresh market. Many foods, including the deli's salads, soups, and corned beef, will be made in-house, while others, like smoked fishes and bialys, will be shipped in from Chicago, Philadelphia and New York. Streets will be open 7 a.m. –8:30 p.m. Monday through Saturday, and 9 a.m.–3 p.m. on Sundays, which will feature $1 mimosas.

              Sorry but this restaurant isn't not kosher for one and for two I don't think something can be kosher style (as their website says). It can be Big City style, but something is either kosher or it is not. Regardless, if the food is quality and the price is right, I'll go for nosh.

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                rockycat RE: burgeoningfoodie Jan 5, 2011 05:05 AM

                If the bialys are from Kossar's or H&H, please post ASAP!

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                  burgeoningfoodie RE: rockycat Jan 5, 2011 06:16 AM

                  I will try to find out.. they should be opening.. I would guess next week or the week of MLK holiday. I went by Kossars it looked run down and empty.

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                    rockycat RE: burgeoningfoodie Jan 5, 2011 08:01 AM

                    Yup. That's pretty much the way it always looks. Sounds like all is well there.

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              tamalesfordinner RE: bbqme Jan 27, 2011 09:59 AM

              Ate there for lunch - today is the first day of the soft open. There were some small issues (no matzoh ball soup, should turkey on a grilled sandwich be fresh-from-the-fridge cold?, no napkin dispenser on the table, no bread plate, or option to purchase one on the menu that I could see.) None of these would keep us from going back, but my husband won't be ordering the brisket sandwich again - he found it too fatty and lacking in flavor. The manager said that was "New York style" but we've had brisket in New York (and as a descendant of NY Jews, I've been eating and cooking my mother's brisket my whole life) that was not like that at all.

              Also, the potato pancakes were kind of raw in the middle, although the top and sides were perfectly golden brown and crunchy. It is hard to get large potato pancakes cooked all the way through, I know. Again, not a dealbreaker.

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                burgeoningfoodie RE: tamalesfordinner Jan 27, 2011 10:58 AM

                Ate there for lunch today as well.

                This place is doing a disservice to anything denoted as Big City Deli. I got a pastrami sandwich that is it. It took them 90 minutes to make one pastrami sandwich. I realize it is a soft opening and maybe this is my first one, but 90 minutes for a sandwich at lunch (or ever) is just inexcusable. The kitchen area is a clusterfunk as the service just pools around the kitchen area and there are swinging doors that don't need to have people milling around in front of as there are trays coming in and out with food items on them.

                Anyways, back to the sandwich.. the pastrami was piled high in a haphazard manner on seeded rye. Why can't we get sandwiches around here with a decent rye bread? The sandwich wasn't cut through (only the top half of the bread). If I order a sandwich I want the opportunity to eat as such unless you mark it as open face, this was not marked in such a way. Good thing I didn't go to yank the sandwich up. Also the sandwich bread was ordered to be toasted which they did but on the lightest setting. The sandwich was too soggy to life up and so I had to fork and knife it. Again this is basic sandwich building 101 AND you don't butter and toast the bread for something that needs to hold a huge pile of greasy pastrami.

                I was told that the items for the potato knishes and potato pancakes were not available that day and that they only had one soup.

                I wish tthey could offer a better product and I hope they get their food legs under them before the end of the week.

                At the current going rate, they won't last more than 2 years.

                Big City Deli
                3061 Jim Owens Rd NW, Kennesaw, GA 30152

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                  LulusMom RE: burgeoningfoodie Jan 27, 2011 03:00 PM

                  90 minutes for a simple sandwich is inexcusable. And the cold beer mentioned below wouldn't have helped. Yuck.

                  Why are 2 of you considering going back, considering how much it didn't hit the spot? I'm not trying to be snarky, I just really want to know if there was something you sensed about it maybe getting better. Doesn't sound at all promising.

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                    tamalesfordinner RE: LulusMom Jan 27, 2011 03:35 PM

                    Nostalgia, pure and simple. I grew up eating at restaurants like this, and I at least want to be able to purchase one bowl of matzo ball soup at a restaurant where I live, this has never happened in 18 years of NC residency (several wild goose chases to Raleigh over the years have proved fruitless) and I am willing to go back to make this happen. Although my husband just came back from work and said the more he thought about that fatty flavorless brisket sandwich, the more irritated he got at the manager's pat response of "that's New York Style." Maybe their breakfasts are better.

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                      LulusMom RE: tamalesfordinner Jan 27, 2011 04:58 PM

                      Totally understand nostalgia. I didn't grow up with deli food, and it doesn't especially appeal to me (not a big meat eater) so I don't have that feeling, but I got it the minute I read it. Kind of how I'd feel if I found a real crabcake in Chapel Hill or Carrboro. I hope for your sake that the place improves.

                      And good lord, it was *draft* beer that wasn't cold enough?

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                      burgeoningfoodie RE: LulusMom Jan 27, 2011 05:36 PM

                      I won't go back until I hear a lot of good press about them getting significantly better. They had one cannoli in their case. It was rather pathetic looking example. What this reminds me of is a poor example of From NY With Love except they don't offer tongue. A friend of mine who was already there eating had decided to get a liver sandwich and said they wound up with the wrong order and that it was gross. The group of people in front of me had been waiting for 50 minutes for their take out and then didn't have the potato salad and got fed up and just left with what they had.

                      Soft opening or not it is one thing to not be polished it is entirely another thing for a sandwich to take 90 mins and they are planning to have their grand opening on the 31st. They didn't have comment cards nor did they offer anything for inconveniences. I went because I wanted to see what they offered and I had one of their 50% off email coupons and I was only going to be able to go for lunch on Thurs. I hope they don't get swamped by UNC home game crowds or the people that go there for food may burn the place down.

                      From NY With Love
                      10511 Shadowlawn Dr, Raleigh, NC 27614

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                    prius RE: tamalesfordinner Jan 27, 2011 10:58 AM

                    Lunch at first day soft opening today. Corned beef reuben was great.
                    Pastrami fatty. Beer not cold enough. Deli mustard weak. Potato salad
                    was meh. Pleasant atmosphere. Will go back to try more.

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                      prius RE: prius Jan 27, 2011 04:26 PM

                      We will go back because it is a new opening....going to be bumps in the road.
                      The reuben's corned beef, kraut and Russian dressing were very good on the perfectly toasted seeded rye bread. The rest wasn't terrible just middle of the road. The menu has several other items worth trying. The management was responsive to the suggestion of making their draft beer colder.

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                    tamalesfordinner RE: bbqme Feb 13, 2011 06:20 PM

                    Was driving past post-lunchtime today, thought I'd stop in and grab a bowl of matzoh ball soup to-go for my husband, especially since they didn't have any when we went last time.

                    Silly me, of COURSE they don't have any soups on Sundays and only serve their brunch menu, even at 2pm! Shaking my head. I don't know that I have it in me to go back a THIRD time for matzoh ball soup. I'll just get the transcendent chicken noodle soup with matzoh balls ($11 for a big glass jar - expensive and worth it) at Steve's Deli, the next time I go visit my mother in MI.

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                      meatn3 RE: tamalesfordinner Feb 14, 2011 07:51 AM

                      I just had the soup at Steve's last month - still wonderful! If it wasn't for airline carry-on issues I would have brought it home. Best restaurant made matzoh ball I've had...

                      I really feel something like Steve's, especially their Michigan location could work here. Not pure Kosher deli, but enough of the traditional dishes done right plus enough lighter items to draw you in on a fairly regular basis.

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                        burgeoningfoodie RE: tamalesfordinner Feb 14, 2011 10:21 AM

                        Glad to hear that my one time visit wasn't just a restaurant soft run. What kind of a place doesn't have the things it says it does.. not ran out.. but just doesn't have.. and what the heck Sunday has to do with it is beyond me. I know you were playing the sarcasm card. This place just has failure written on it to me.

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                          Rory RE: burgeoningfoodie Feb 14, 2011 10:36 AM

                          well I'd be happy to share with anyone my family's golden chicken soup recipe. It's dead easy, anyone can make it with zero cooking skills. Matzoh balls I hate so that's up to you:)

                      2. klmonline RE: bbqme May 17, 2011 10:03 PM

                        Warning: This is off topic and involves a chain restaurant, but this thread seems the best place to share an amazing discovery with my SE board friends who despair the lack of good Jew Food in the Triangle (check my past posts to assure yourself that I'm a legit board peer and not a shill trying to do marketing).

                        Go to your local Panera bread and buy a "miche" of their rye bread. Pure heaven. Just the right texture, rye flavor, slight sourness, and proportion of carroway seeds. I have been blissing out with this totally unexpected source of Jewish rye.

                        Note that you have to get the miche, which is enormous and costs a lot. Plan to put some in the freezer if you don't have a big family. But the smaller normal loaf comes out all wrong for some unknown reason. The big miche loaf has just the right sponginess and complexity of flavor. The smaller loaf doesn't work.

                        I've had three loafs from two different locations in Cary and Apex. They have been uniformly excellent. Who would have guessed?

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