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teezeetoo Dec 23, 2010 02:51 PM

Back Bay Twenty Years Ago - Anyone remember these restaurants?

Remember two very good small restaurants: Allegro I think was one, maybe on Hereford and Boylston? The other was a little french place, maybe Newbury around Clarendon, with an outside patio in the summer, started with M? Anybody with a better memory than mine? Hard to have a worse one!

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  1. The Chowhound Team Dec 28, 2010 02:42 PM

    Sorry, but we need to lock this now.

    Chowhound's mission is to help everybody eat better right now, today. Nostalgia threads are fun, but they usually end up chatty, taking a lot of space and diluting Chowhound's effectiveness.

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    1. mtm7654 Dec 28, 2010 12:19 PM

      Wow, you guys are really bringing back memories of my first years in Boston! I came to school here in 1978 and stayed. Back then I wasn't a chowhounder wannabe yet but I remember most of these places.

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        Veggo Dec 28, 2010 12:48 PM

        Including the roast beef sandwiches and knishes at Buzzy's on Storrow Drive?

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        ChefJune Dec 28, 2010 10:27 AM

        DuBarry was on Newbury for MANY years. But the place we LOVED in the area was the Half Shell on Boylston.near Exeter.

        and down off Hereford in the alley behind Newbury was an alta cocina Mexican restaurant, Casa Romero. . They had Wonderful food.

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          C. Hamster Dec 28, 2010 10:30 AM

          The Half Shell was good. Havent thought of that place in years. My dad's favorite.

          Casa Romero is still open.

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            purple bot Dec 28, 2010 10:41 AM

            Yes, Casa Romero is still open. Actually went for the first time in many, many years and the food was mediocre to poor, sad to say.

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          pemma Dec 28, 2010 08:49 AM

          One of my first fine dining experiences was at Cafe Budapest. It was in the Back Bay, but I don't remember exactly where. And who was the woman who owned it? Of course I had the cherry soup.

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            Allstonian Dec 28, 2010 09:47 AM

            It was in the basement of the Copley Square Hotel, where Saint is now. I never ate there, but it was certainly one of Boston's legendary restaurants when I was growing up. The owner was Hedda Rev-Kury, and she came to a sad end; there's a story here:
            http://www.bostonmagazine.com/article...

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              hazelhurst Dec 28, 2010 09:58 AM

              I've not had occasion to think of Cafe Budapest in quite awhile...had some fun times in there in my Boston days. Thaat's back when the "fine dining" options were terribly limited. Thanks for bringing it up, sad end and all.

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                pemma Dec 28, 2010 12:21 PM

                Thanks for the link. Sad, but interesting.

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                MC Slim JB Dec 28, 2010 10:02 AM

                If you want a taste of that Hungarian food, you can still get it at Jasmine Bistro in Brighton Center. The owner cooked at Cafe Budapest for many years. He also does French bistro fare (from his days cooking in Paris) and periodic specials from his native Baluchistan. But his Hungarian food is always my favorite.

                http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                atdcom Dec 28, 2010 07:07 AM

                A fabulous little "tea room" on Newbury, between Arlington and Berkeley...does anyone remember the name? Also another little "tea room" on Boylston...think it had "The Women's Exchange" in the name...served puff pastry swans filled with vanilla ice cream and hot fudge sauce...so delicious.

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                  C. Hamster Dec 28, 2010 07:17 AM

                  Womens Industrial Union or something like that ... The name is still on the building and I walk by it all the time, so I should know. Its where the paper store is now I think.

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                    Taralli Dec 28, 2010 07:18 AM

                    English Tea Room on Newbury w/sweet poppy seed salad dressing.

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                      Veggo Dec 28, 2010 10:07 AM

                      Remember Genji, further up Newbury?

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                        Taralli Dec 28, 2010 10:16 AM

                        Most memorable dinner was after a Wagner/Mahler night at Symphony Hall w/1st row seats. When Seiji & friends took the table across from us, he asked how we liked the performance.

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                          Veggo Dec 28, 2010 10:28 AM

                          Very cool, and great story.

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                    2. C. Hamster Dec 28, 2010 06:09 AM

                      We miss DuBarry!!

                      I miss the Newbury street cafeteria place, too. Forget the name.

                      And the old Flash's -- sort of a down-on-your luck cafeteria but great grilled cheese and fries.

                      Richards, next to Flash's, where we watched the first Space Shuttle explode.

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                      1. dmullin699 Dec 27, 2010 04:09 PM

                        I remember the French restaurant but the name escapes me.
                        Division Sixteen was my favorite place in the neighborhood.
                        The best burger I have ever had.
                        Nothing else comes close.

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                          mikeinboston Dec 27, 2010 07:38 PM

                          Division Sixteen, with the Patrick Nagle posters, those little art deco lamps behind the bar and overflowing with Boston University students from South America and the Middle East - had the most insanely good Buffalo Wings.

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                            9lives Dec 27, 2010 07:50 PM

                            Nachos weren't too shabby either..:)...but that burger!

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                              Alcachofa Dec 28, 2010 06:34 AM

                              I remember the potato bombs at Div 16. I think that's what they were called. Anyone else remember them and know where you can find a similar item today?

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                              Uncle Yabai Dec 28, 2010 01:49 AM

                              Second and third that. Everytime I think of those burgers, I observe a minute of silence for what those burgers stood for: first time paying 10 bucks for a burger (in 1982!), youth, the ability to eat one of those things and (a) not put on any weight, and (b) not feel it for the next 48 hours, and for the best burger ever.

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                                southie_chick Dec 28, 2010 05:22 AM

                                Boy do I miss those Division 16 buffalo wings! And, I think it they had one of the most underrated bugers - and the fries were good too!
                                Got in trouble there one night 'cause one of my friends (Richie) called up my boss (who he was good friends with) & told him I wasn't coming to work that nite 'cause I had to drive him home 'cause he was too buzzed to drive. BOY did I hear that when I got to work the next nite ........ 'cause I didn't ask my boss to stop by for one with us!
                                Richie was also the one who introduced me to Ciro & Sal's on Boylston Street - LOVED that place.

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                                  9lives Dec 28, 2010 07:27 AM

                                  Ciro and Sal's is still open in PTown.and very popular

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                                    southie_chick Dec 28, 2010 08:17 AM

                                    Popular is one thing ....... but is it good? Not the same "Ciro & Sal's" as when they were on Boylston Street (I believe they opened the P'town one after the Boylston Street one). They broke up years ago & one of them kept that restaurant & the other opened another restaurant under another name (don't think it's opened any more). Food wasn't as good after the split (haven't been there in eons) & don't know if it ever went back to being as good as the old Ciro & Sal's.

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                                      MC Slim JB Dec 28, 2010 10:00 AM

                                      I've been to the P-Town Ciro & Sal's a couple of times in the past couple of summers: it's very inconsistent, and when it's bad, it's dreadful.

                                      http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                        9lives Dec 28, 2010 11:06 AM

                                        I haven't eaten there for years but I'll take your both your words for it.

                                        Just knew it was there..no info beyond that.

                                        Yes...PTN came after Boylston.

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                              T.Clark Dec 24, 2010 06:06 AM

                              Allegro was Jimmy Burke's first solo. He went on to open many places such as Tuscan Grill on Moody St. and a few Iguana Cantina's. He now owns Orta in Pembroke where he has dumbed down his food by a factor of 10X.

                              http://www.mohegansun.com/sitelet/win...

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                              1. BostonZest Dec 23, 2010 06:28 PM

                                Mirabella might be what you are thinking about . Today it is L'Aroma Cafe.

                                Penny
                                http://www.bostonzest.com/

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                                  teezeetoo Dec 23, 2010 07:30 PM

                                  yes, it was Mirabella. Thanks. The board discussion about the "lack" of good French and Italian restaurants in Boston was aggravating us so we went back in memory to what was delightful for its time and how things evolve. When I was a youngster in new york i had my first artichoke at a little neighborhood Italian joint around 14th street and 8th avenue called Il Faros. It was a revelation. I have no idea if it was as good as my memory, but I'm clear that it gave me good memories. Le Boucage, Allegro, Mirabella were all personal and delightful. They weren't Cote D'Or or Taillevant but I learned from each one. Here's to the small, the local, and the good which educate our taste. The first Jean George restaurant I ate at in NY was a little place called JoJos I think. I remember it as a more exciting event than the tasting menu I had at Jean George because it was so intensely personal. That's how I find Erbaluce: not always perfect, not inevitably excellent, but decidely personal. Thanks so much for the name.

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                                    hotoynoodle Dec 24, 2010 10:03 AM

                                    if i recall, mirabelle also had an included service charge and did not last very long because the service was awful.

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                                    nasilemak Dec 24, 2010 06:20 AM

                                    I still remember a fab concord grape sorbet i had at Mirabella!

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                                      BostonZest Dec 24, 2010 12:57 PM

                                      And excellent coffee and espresso.

                                      Penny
                                      http://www.bostonzest.com/

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                                        teezeetoo Dec 24, 2010 01:35 PM

                                        I don't remember bad service, though others might have experienced that. I remember an inviting menu and pleasant interior and outside space and a nice European-feel vibe.

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                                    bartleby Dec 23, 2010 04:12 PM

                                    Don't remember the French restaurant, but I remember Allegro very well and very fondly. Boylston Street was their second location; the first was on Moody Street in Waltham, where Iguana Cantina later resided for many years. The Waltham outpost was the first "nice" meal I ever had in Boston and Boylston St was our go-to for special occasions in the first few years of our marriage.

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                                      purple bot Dec 23, 2010 04:01 PM

                                      The french one was where Bouchee was recently, right? Was it DuBarry? And was the other one where the Cactus Club is? (assuming that's still there?) I remember both of those places, and now it's bugging me as well. I'm sure the name of the other one will come to me in the middle of the night.

                                      I should add that I also recall them as being very good, but in retrospect I don't think my palate was particularly refined at that time.

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                                      Cactus Club Restaurant & Bar
                                      939 Boylston Street, Boston, MA 02115

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                                        9lives Dec 23, 2010 04:20 PM

                                        Du Barry sounds right. Very exotic in it's day and a beautiful patio.

                                        Racking my brain for the place by the Cactus Club.

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                                        939 Boylston Street, Boston, MA 02115

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                                          cassoulady Dec 24, 2010 11:21 AM

                                          When I was in school, my French class took a trip every year to eat at DuBarry. It was always the highlight of the year!! We would all get dressed up and take the train "in town" and eat at what was by far the fanciest place we had every been and speak in French the whole lunch.

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