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marcreichman Dec 23, 2010 07:53 AM

...have nearly debilitating back pain, but go out of his way to drive up bumpy Fawcett St. in the morning to get a ham & cheese croissant at Iggy's because he happened to be in the area dropping the dog off at the kennel, right before a big trip when there really wasn't time to spare.

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  1. Prav RE: marcreichman Dec 23, 2010 08:04 AM

    ...not call back an otherwise perfectly ok first date, because she Ewww'd your som tam at Dok Bua. Don't mess with my phet ma, mama.

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      Prav RE: Prav Dec 23, 2010 08:16 AM

      Also, see avatar.

    2. Bob Dobalina RE: marcreichman Dec 23, 2010 08:13 AM

      ...would get a nightcap of lobster mac-n-cheese at Amrhein's after an otherwise delicious dinner at O Ya.

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        jjbourgeois RE: marcreichman Dec 23, 2010 08:36 AM

        would search for a restaurant that serves the best made in-house baked beans.

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          gourmaniac RE: marcreichman Dec 23, 2010 08:53 AM

          Jog a couple of miles to Newmarket Square, wolf down a Speed's dog with everything, waddle back to my office and consider this a healthy lunch. Happy Holidays Hounds.

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            Blumie RE: gourmaniac Dec 23, 2010 09:58 AM

            That's a good one. I'll need to calculate the mileage from my office on Boylston St.; that might be doable!

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              viperlush RE: gourmaniac Dec 23, 2010 10:36 AM

              <clap clap clap> Extra points if you walked in with a smug grin and bbq sauce/chili on your shirt.

            2. hiddenboston RE: marcreichman Dec 23, 2010 09:20 AM

              ...head out of Winchester at 11:15 AM, pick up a friend in Cambridge at 11:30, drive 40 miles away to a place called Poopsie's for bar pizza and a beer, then turn around to head back to work in Winchester by 2:30 PM.

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                devilham RE: hiddenboston Jan 11, 2011 08:47 AM

                Poopsie's bar pies for the win!!!!!

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                Poopsie's
                243 Church St Ste 1, Pembroke, MA 02359

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                mikeinboston RE: marcreichman Dec 23, 2010 09:54 AM

                ... plan an entire lunch excursion just to take the water taxi from Downtown to Scup's in the Harbor.

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                Scup's In the Harbor
                256 Marginal St, Boston, MA 02128

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                  hiddenboston RE: mikeinboston Dec 23, 2010 10:00 AM

                  I wish Chowhound had a "Like" button. :-)

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                    globalgourmand RE: hiddenboston Feb 19, 2011 04:48 AM

                    Me too! I "like" Prav's (first down.) And I "love" this thread!
                    ...justify buying an oil change deal that is 30 miles from home or work solely because it will give me an excuse to eat at one of the local ethnic eateries for lunch.

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                    fredid RE: mikeinboston Jan 9, 2011 12:09 PM

                    Alas! Alack! Scups is CLOSED until APRIL 1!!!

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                    winedude RE: marcreichman Dec 23, 2010 10:07 AM

                    . . . volunteer to drive a friend to the airport just for an excuse to stop at Santarpio's on the way home.

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                      AndrewPF RE: winedude Dec 31, 2010 10:03 AM

                      You too?!

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                        viperlush RE: winedude Dec 31, 2010 11:39 AM

                        I need to put their # in my phone book. Last flight was so delayed that by the time we landed, got luggage, found car, and got over to Santarpio's they were no longer serving. Next time I'll call from the plane for a pie.

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                        sallyt RE: marcreichman Dec 23, 2010 10:21 AM

                        ...use her maternity leave as an excuse to visit almost every (good) bakery in the Boston area. Ahhh B&R Bread - we miss you still. Not that I did that, or anything...

                        (great topic!)

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                        B&R Bread
                        151 Cochituate Rd, Framingham, MA

                        1. viperlush RE: marcreichman Dec 23, 2010 10:34 AM

                          ...hotly debate where the best fried clams are (or who has the best lobster roll) when most of the country would kill for any of our options.

                          1. tatsu RE: marcreichman Dec 23, 2010 06:58 PM

                            Put up with a lousy website and moderaters and give, for free, fantastic content.

                            Also try to do grocery shopping at H-Mart, Watertown, Formaggio's and a Farmer's Market in one day.

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                              globalgourmand RE: tatsu Feb 19, 2011 04:51 AM

                              Sounds like another great Saturday to me! I have a Boston shop-hopping map dedicated only to specialty grocers like those you've listed above.

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                              chuck s RE: marcreichman Dec 24, 2010 03:28 AM

                              ...stock up on croissants at Clear Flour before boarding a flight to Paris.

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                                scotty27 RE: marcreichman Dec 24, 2010 03:55 AM

                                organize a day around New Deal, Russo's, Savenor's, Wine Cask, & Hi-Rise.
                                Formaggio's? If there is a more overpriced, pretentious place in the country, that'd have to be Eli's.
                                www.shrinkinthekitchen

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                                  tatsu RE: scotty27 Dec 24, 2010 04:11 AM

                                  Formaggio's isn't pretentious at all. Most of the staff these days are young and very helpful, no attitude what so ever. The prices are ok. Probably the most expensive thing is a whole leg of Jamon Iberico de Bellota for ~3 grand. Other things are uh, cheaper. But I go for provisions and some rare cheeses. The owner is a chevalier of cheese, it doesn't get better than that.

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                                    MC Slim JB RE: tatsu Dec 24, 2010 04:15 AM

                                    Do you mean Zabar's in Manhattan? I give a lot of business to South End Formaggio, and I find my neighbors tougher to take there than the staff.

                                    http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                      gramercyfoodie RE: MC Slim JB Dec 24, 2010 04:19 PM

                                      Eli's is owned by Eli Zabar and Zabar's is owned by his brothers. Last I heard Eli doesn't talk to the brothers. Eli's (and EAT) is super pretentious and not like Formaggio's at all. Found Formaggio's to be a great neighborhood market. Can't say the same for Eli's.

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                                      bgavin RE: tatsu Jan 10, 2011 11:47 AM

                                      I love South End Formaggio. And they are exquisitely patient, slicing an eighth of a pound of four different cured meats for my charcuterie-for-two dinner.

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                                      South End Formaggio
                                      268 Shawmut Ave, Boston, MA 02118

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                                      AGM_Cape_Cod RE: scotty27 Dec 30, 2010 07:16 AM

                                      Be happy about a two hour commute to work because I can go to the farmers market at Copley Square twice a week.

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                                        FoodDabbler RE: scotty27 Jan 12, 2011 09:25 AM

                                        It's amusing that you recommend Hi-Rise, then turn around and slam Formaggio for being overpriced and pretentious.

                                        Do you have examples of items that are overpriced at Formaggio? I'm looking for concrete instances along the lines of "Gorgonzola Dolce sells for $x at these fine stores, but costs $1.5x
                                        at Formaggio." And do you have anecdotes of Formaggio pretentiousness?

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                                        baldbert RE: marcreichman Dec 24, 2010 05:42 AM

                                        Chinatown at 2 in the morning!

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                                          tysonmcneely RE: baldbert Dec 28, 2010 09:08 AM

                                          Chinatown at 2 in the morning doesn't necessarily mean you're a chow hound. It does, however, indicate that you are a booze hound.

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                                          drb RE: marcreichman Dec 24, 2010 07:47 AM

                                          Roast meat plate from Kantin at Super 88 and a bahn mi from Pho Viet for dessert (or equivalent in Chinatown).

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                                          Pho Viet
                                          1095 Commonwealth Ave, Boston, MA 02215

                                          Kantin
                                          1095 Commonwealth Ave Ste 203, Boston, MA 02215

                                          1. hiddenboston RE: marcreichman Dec 28, 2010 09:20 AM

                                            .....get excited over seeing a total dump with bars over the windows (or no windows at all) that he had not known about, mainly because it could be a great place for steak tips or bar pizza.

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                                              heypielady RE: marcreichman Dec 28, 2010 10:08 AM

                                              Fill a cooler full of ice, buy close to $100 worth of seafood at New Deal for Christmas Eve dinner on December 23 and drive 2.5 hrs to CT because your dad claims "you just can't get good seafood in CT"

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                                                jessabella617 RE: marcreichman Dec 29, 2010 11:08 AM

                                                Oh my goodness it is hard to know where to begin...
                                                -Spend 1/2 of my paycheck for dinner at Craigie
                                                -Wander through Allston/Chinatown/Cambridge for 3 hours while starving, wanting to make sure I pick the absolute PERFECT meal
                                                -Have a slice of pizza from Armando's as an appetizer while driving to dinner
                                                -Pho at Pho Hoa as an app, followed by s/p fried pork chop with Eggplant Hotpot
                                                at Best Little Restaurant followed by Brown Butter, Brownie something or other ice cream at Toscaninis...yes I did eat ALL of these :)

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                                                  stomachofsteel RE: jessabella617 Dec 29, 2010 11:54 AM

                                                  Brown Sugar, Brown Butter, Brownie -- also known as B3 and delicious.

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                                                    hckybg RE: jessabella617 Jan 15, 2011 10:41 AM

                                                    Armando's is also a good appetizer before getting BBQ on the sidewalk at Formaggio!

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                                                    cheesefries RE: marcreichman Dec 29, 2010 12:06 PM

                                                    ...tolerate a city that is nearly devoid of a decent pizza place or deli despite its relative massive population.

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                                                      hiddenboston RE: cheesefries Dec 29, 2010 12:16 PM

                                                      I agree about the deli part, but pizza? Have you been to Picco, Regina's, Ernesto's, or Galleria Umberto?

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                                                        redips RE: hiddenboston Jan 13, 2011 04:51 AM

                                                        I still don't understand the obsession with Regina, I find it borderline gross

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                                                          tatamagouche RE: redips Jan 13, 2011 05:43 AM

                                                          And you've been to the one in the North End? As others have noted, that makes all the difference. That's the one with the magic oven.

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                                                        ecwashere7 RE: cheesefries Dec 29, 2010 03:48 PM

                                                        couldn't agree more cheesefries. All of the pizza places you mention, hiddenboston, are not even close to adequate.

                                                        as for delis, Bob's in Medford is the closest thing to a decent deli. There are about five just like it in every town in the NY Metro area (southeast CT and NJ included).

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                                                          hiddenboston RE: ecwashere7 Dec 30, 2010 06:48 AM

                                                          Regina's is not even close to adequate? Well, we agree to disagree!

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                                                            cheesefries RE: hiddenboston Dec 30, 2010 07:38 AM

                                                            I've been looking forward to trying regina for a long time. Is there a specific location that is the real deal, as I've noticed there are a lot?

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                                                              hiddenboston RE: cheesefries Dec 30, 2010 07:45 AM

                                                              To many (myself included), the only one to go to is the original Regina's on Thatcher Street in the North End. The others are of varying quality--I'll go to the South Station one in a pinch, but the original is much better than all the others.

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                                                                Northender RE: hiddenboston Dec 30, 2010 12:34 PM

                                                                The North end one is the original and most certainy the best. Plus very unique and cool waitresses

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                                                                  BD143 RE: hiddenboston Feb 2, 2011 04:18 PM

                                                                  I agree with you - the original Regina's is much better. Same goes for Santarpios in East Boston. - you cannot replicate the neighborhood surroundings

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                                                                    FoodDabbler RE: BD143 Feb 2, 2011 05:08 PM

                                                                    The surroundings do affect how you taste food, but in this case it's more the interior. Specifically, the interior of the oven.

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                                                            MC Slim JB RE: cheesefries Dec 30, 2010 07:49 AM

                                                            A couple of issues, cheesefries. One, I don't think Boston 'hounds tolerate these things: if there's any community that complains about the lack of quality in certain cuisines, it's this one.

                                                            Two, while I agree with you on the deli front, I disagree about the pizza. I rate Picco, Gran Gusto, and the original Regina's highly, among others. There aren't many foodstuffs around which people have more ultra-specific ideas about what constitutes quality, first and foremost transplants singing the praises of whatever they grew up on.

                                                            http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                            90 Sherman St, Cambridge, MA 02140

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                                                              cheesefries RE: MC Slim JB Dec 30, 2010 08:33 AM

                                                              I never mentioned where i am from, nor sung any praises. Maybe its because I am not from New York or Chicago but I totally disagree about pizza. Good is good. I can recognize quality in a greasy slice at Ray's as quickly as a cheesy deep dish; I just don't happen to see much quality in Boston outside of a very few locations.

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                                                                MC Slim JB RE: cheesefries Dec 30, 2010 08:40 AM

                                                                In my experience, no town has great pizza everywhere: the mean is always mediocre (sorta by definition). Any pizza in the area you particularly like?

                                                                http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                  cheesefries RE: MC Slim JB Dec 30, 2010 09:12 AM

                                                                  Sure... santarpio's is some of the best pizza I've had in my life. As long as we're talking ultra-specific preferences, their pie suits mine to a T, greasy as hell with a bit of a crunchy crust. I live in brighton, and my favorite in these parts is pino's in cleveland circle, though they're prone to inconsistency. That's about all I've got, but I'm gonna try some of places mentioned above.

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                                                                    MC Slim JB RE: cheesefries Dec 30, 2010 09:18 AM

                                                                    Let me know if you get to try the new Fiorella's Express. I'm a fan of the pies at their Newton original -- good Italian-American food in general, too -- but haven't gotten to the new Brighton offshoot yet.

                                                                    Have you been to Stella's in Watertown? Little family owned place, a nice thin-crust pie, best eaten in rather than taken out or delivered.

                                                                    I remember Bluestone Bistro having good fancy-ish pies many years ago, but haven't been since it changed hands more than ten years ago.

                                                                    http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                    1799 Commonwealth Ave, Brighton, MA 02135

                                                                    Fiorella's
                                                                    187 North St, Newtonville, MA 02460

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                                                                      bear RE: MC Slim JB Dec 30, 2010 10:17 AM

                                                                      I got a Bluestone pizza for the first time since the changeover a few months ago. Definitely not the same crust. Just so-so. I'm not a thick-crust fan normally, but thought the old Bluestone's crust was some of the best around.

                                                                      We were all bummed and agreed we wouldn't bother again.

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                                                                        kimfair1 RE: MC Slim JB Dec 30, 2010 10:30 AM

                                                                        Blusestone's pizza went plummeting downhill with the ownership change. Not nearly the pie it once was. Cheesefries, since you are in Brighton, try the Sicilian from Imperial on Washington ST. Their standard pie is nothing special, but their's is my favorite Sicilian slice in town (I love Umberto's - but Imperial is much better).

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                                                                          cheesefries RE: kimfair1 Dec 30, 2010 11:09 AM

                                                                          I'm surprised I don't know imperial, being a BC alum. I'll definitely check it out though, as I will Fiorella's as well.

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                                                                            tatamagouche RE: cheesefries Jan 11, 2011 03:13 PM

                                                                            Years ago—nearly 10—there was a place next door to Bluestone, Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese—I know, I know but the owner was absolutely adorable, and she made the best naeng myun and good chap chae too, at least as I recall them. Can't remember the name. Still there, by any chance?

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                                                                              MC Slim JB RE: tatamagouche Jan 11, 2011 03:19 PM

                                                                              I think that's a Japanese place called Fuyami now, never been.

                                                                              http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                tatamagouche RE: MC Slim JB Jan 11, 2011 03:52 PM

                                                                                Ah, that helped me look it up. It was called Damoah. Bummer.

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                                                                        opinionatedchef RE: cheesefries Jan 11, 2011 09:49 PM

                                                                        pizza, like hamburgers, is a much discussed and divisive topic for many B Chs. I lived in Italy as a teenager and ate alot of pizza; Regina's (ONLY the NoEnd location) tastes like italy to me. Gran Gusto's is authentic Roman pizza, though more spartan than regina's. We are also big fans of Stone Hearth Pizza in Belmont, always the sausage caremelized onion, and the pesto white bean, w/ added chevre, bacon, and tomato sauce,. with an extra well done whole wheat crust. Here are some relevant posts:

                                                                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/540924#

                                                                        "Stone Hearth Pizza in Belmont is my new favorite in the area thanks to opinionatedchef's posting of a couple of weeks back. When ordered extra-crispy it delivers a North End worthy pie with nice char, spring (blister), center chew and a perfectly balanced tomato sauce. I haven't been to their Needham location but would think it the same."

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                                                                        Stone Hearth Pizza
                                                                        By Harp00n on Aug 11, 2008 09:19PM

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                                                                        90 Sherman St, Cambridge, MA 02140

                                                                        Stone Hearth Pizza
                                                                        57 Leonard St, Belmont, MA 02478

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                                                                  StriperGuy RE: cheesefries Jan 11, 2011 07:29 AM

                                                                  Most cities in the US do not have decent NY style deli.

                                                                  For Pizza you need to get out more.

                                                                  Stella's in Watertown.

                                                                  Sabatino's in Arlington.

                                                                  The original Regina.

                                                                  Gran Gusto in Cambridge.

                                                                  Galleria Umberto (but it is a very particular style and rather simple.)

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                                                                  Gran Gusto
                                                                  90 Sherman St, Cambridge, MA 02140

                                                                  Sabatino's Restaurant
                                                                  735 Broadway, Malden, MA 02148

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                                                                    AndrewPF RE: StriperGuy Jan 11, 2011 05:10 PM

                                                                    I've heard that Brookline is full of good delis. Haven't made my way over there, but that's what I've heard.

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                                                                      StriperGuy RE: AndrewPF Jan 12, 2011 05:39 AM

                                                                      Not sure where you are getting your info. Brookline has a few places that sort of have some slight pretense of being delis. The food is generally mediocre, and they are not delis in any true sense of the name.

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                                                                        MC Slim JB RE: AndrewPF Jan 12, 2011 06:05 AM

                                                                        Ah, if only! Traditional Jewish deli is a gigantic hole in the Greater Boston dining scene. I've talked to several folks who were considering opening deli-focused restaurants in Boston (e.g., it was an early concept considered for what is now The Gallows), but those plans all came to naught.

                                                                        The three Brookline places most often mentioned are Zaftig's (undeniably popular, but a debased, Disneyesque notion of deli, in my book), Michael's Deli (good corned beef, but not much else to recommend it -- order on rolls, their bread is awful), and Rubin's (a proper kosher deli, but a bit tired and certainly not remotely up to New York standards).

                                                                        I thought it was an awesomely perfect symbol of how crass and clueless Howie Carr is that he hyped Michael's (one of his sponsors) to Anthony Bourdain, a New Yorker.

                                                                        http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                        256 Harvard St, Brookline, MA 02446

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                                                                          9lives RE: MC Slim JB Jan 12, 2011 06:17 AM

                                                                          The Stage (NY) had a branch in the theater district and Alan Dershowitz tried a deli, Maven's in Harvard SQ..maybe 10 ish years ago. Neither lasted.

                                                                          My 1st choice for pastrami in Boston is Sam Lagrassa's and Michael's for CB. Smoked fish is Barry's in Waban or some of the Russian places.

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                                                                          44 Province St, Boston, MA 02108

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                                                                            StriperGuy RE: MC Slim JB Jan 12, 2011 06:46 AM

                                                                            Rubin's is NOT a proper deli. Rubin's is a mediocre kosher joint that sells some deli-ish items. Honestly the place is just tired and the food is pretty gross.

                                                                            Noone who knows deli from a hole in the wall would call Rubin's a proper deli. And after all, what am I, chopped liver?

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                                                                              MC Slim JB RE: StriperGuy Jan 12, 2011 06:51 AM

                                                                              I think we're in agreement on Rubin's quality: my comment "proper kosher deli" refers to the fact that it is indeed kosher, which many New England delis aren't.

                                                                              http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                StriperGuy RE: MC Slim JB Jan 12, 2011 07:06 AM

                                                                                Many, if not most good delis, are NOT in fact kosher.

                                                                                Ya can't serve a nice cheese blintz AND a pastrami sandwich if the place is kosher.

                                                                                In fact, not sure I can think of ANY really good deli that is in fact kosher (but I am sure someone will chime in an remind me of one)...

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                                                                                  MC Slim JB RE: StriperGuy Jan 12, 2011 07:15 AM

                                                                                  A bunch in NYC. Second Avenue Kosher Deli is the one I've been to most recently, pretty fine.

                                                                                  http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                    StriperGuy RE: MC Slim JB Jan 12, 2011 07:31 AM

                                                                                    Forgot that 2nd ave deli was in fact kosher...

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                                                                                      djd RE: StriperGuy Jan 13, 2011 07:49 AM

                                                                                      I still can't believe Ratner's closed.

                                                                                      edit: hmm, this was supposed to be a direct reply to StriperGuy so no one would get confused and say "but Ratner's was in Manhattan!"

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                                                                                        tatamagouche RE: djd Jan 13, 2011 10:08 AM

                                                                                        It is... (see on the right where it says re: Striper Guy)

                                                                                        Took me a long time to figure that out. :)

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                                                                                          djd RE: tatamagouche Jan 13, 2011 12:37 PM

                                                                                          but the weird thing is I did hit the correct reply option--? Computers.

                                                                                          Edit: yeah. like that.

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                                                                              FoodDabbler RE: MC Slim JB Jan 12, 2011 09:43 AM

                                                                              The Boston deli void is huge and includes not just traditional Jewish delis but also the kind of ordinary street corner delis with which NY is overrun. There are many places in NY to get a standard yet competent roast beef sandwich. The bread may be a commercial roll and the meat Boar's Head, but the sandwich will be quite edible, and often enjoyable. It will also be made quickly. It's not easy finding places that do this in Boston. I travel frequently between Penn Station and South Station. At the New York end it's easy to get a decent sandwich to eat on the journey. In Boston it's essentially impossible. I once got a roast beef sandwich at Cardullo's. The bread was disgustingly soft, the roast beef entirely tasteless (you might think you were eating beef-textured rubber, except the texture was rubbery too), and there was so much mayonnaise that it ran down my arm at the first bite.

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                                                                                9lives RE: FoodDabbler Jan 12, 2011 10:12 AM

                                                                                It sounds like you're saying that it's very convenient to get a lousy deli sandwich in NY..near Penn St. If you consider that a positive experience for you,. I won't argue.

                                                                                I'd far rather get a bahn mi near South Station in Boston or something better than decent at Al'snear SS or a lobster roll at Hook's for my Bos-NYC trip.

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                                                                                  FoodDabbler RE: 9lives Jan 12, 2011 10:58 AM

                                                                                  I said competent sandwich, you're reading lousy.

                                                                                  Apart from Al's the other options you mention are not hugely close to SS. That might, in fact, be a good response to the title of this thread "Only a Boston-area hound would consider something a car-ride away close." I've done banh mi, as well as lotus-leaf packets of sticky rice, coconut buns, etc., but it's a hike from SS. You need to have at least 45 minutes in order to guarantee that you'll be at your train or bus when they board. I don't tend to be able to arrange my life so as to routinely have large amounts of extra time on my hands.

                                                                                  Al's is convenient, but it suffers from yet another problem that's widespread in Boston: the deli-knows-better attitude. Many of the sandwich places in town, including ones I like to varying degrees (All-Star, Darwin's, Hi-Rise), mostly offer their own combo, package-deal sandwiches (roast beef with melted cheddar and a touch of horseradish, layered with asparagus on cornbread) and are not set up to easily handle simple personal requests. Ask for something like ham with a little mustard on French bread, and you either won't be able to get it or will have to negotiate your way to it.

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                                                                                    9lives RE: FoodDabbler Jan 12, 2011 02:37 PM

                                                                                    Despite my lousy reading,..

                                                                                    it seem that you don't know the that that there is a second Al's on Essex St. I don't know if you're a golfer, but it's a short pitching wedge to South Station.

                                                                                    If I were taking a train fom SS to Penn, I could probably find 50 places to pick up something in Boston that are closer and better than Cardullo's.

                                                                                    Frankly, I could give a S++# where you eat before your train rides From SS to Penn. It's your meal, and you get to eat it.

                                                                                    You want to win an argument, you win. You want to eat better....

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                                                                                      FoodDabbler RE: 9lives Jan 12, 2011 03:22 PM

                                                                                      If you read my post you'll see that I'm agreeing that Al's is close to SS. Not sure why you're working yourself up over this.

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                                                                                        9lives RE: FoodDabbler Jan 12, 2011 03:36 PM

                                                                                        I'm not worked up over this. makes no difference to me.

                                                                                        I didn't much care for your comment re my reading skills but no biggie.

                                                                                        Eat well.

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                                                                                          FoodDabbler RE: 9lives Jan 12, 2011 04:07 PM

                                                                                          My comment was on competent sandwiches vs. lousy sandwiches, not competent reading skills vs. lousy ones.

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                                                                                            Jenny Ondioline RE: 9lives Jan 12, 2011 04:35 PM

                                                                                            Although, ironically, FoodDabbler is right: you had clearly completely misread his/her post when you wrote "it seem that you don't know the that that there is a second Al's on Essex St. I don't know if you're a golfer, but it's a short pitching wedge to South Station." FD had said that Al's was the only place on that list that was close to South Station.

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                                                                                              9lives RE: Jenny Ondioline Jan 12, 2011 05:16 PM

                                                                                              Jenny, i don't know why you're sticking your nose in in this mini thread but,welcome. Perhaps you're a better golfer than me . but Als' on State is far further than a wedge shot.

                                                                                              FD claimed hat Al's is a short drive to SS. It isn't, if you consider the second locatiom, it is a short pitching wedge to the station.I'm still unclear if he knows of the second location...or cares. Really not my concern. I mentioned it once to try to help the poster

                                                                                              There's also a handful of delis in the Leather District that will make sandwiches with or w/out mustard that shouldd make FD happy...and better than the Penn St offerings he mentioned.

                                                                                              Eat well.

                                                                                              Out....

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                                                                                                Jenny Ondioline RE: 9lives Jan 12, 2011 10:27 PM

                                                                                                One more time.

                                                                                                This is what FoodDabbler wrote, with capital letters for emphasis on the part that you seem to be having trouble understanding:

                                                                                                "APART FROM AL'S, the other options you mention are not hugely close to SS."

                                                                                                That sentence means that FoodDabbler knows that the Essex Street location of Al's is close to South Station. FoodDabbler is not talking about the State Street location of Al's. No one is talking about the State Street location. All of us are talking about the Essex Street location, and all of us agree that it's close to South Station. It's like a block and a half, tops!

                                                                                                I'm just confused why you continue to insist that FoodDabbler is talking about the State Street location, when it's obvious that FoodDabbler is talking about the Essex Street location.

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                                                                                                  9lives RE: Jenny Ondioline Jan 13, 2011 02:29 PM

                                                                                                  Apology for yesterday's posts to Jenny and Food Dabbler. I was neeedlessly nasty and out of line.

                                                                                                  Eat well!

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                                                                                    MC Slim JB RE: FoodDabbler Jan 12, 2011 10:28 AM

                                                                                    I'd welcome some tips about where to get a worthwhile deli sandwich around Penn Station.

                                                                                    I did not even know that Cardullo's makes sandwiches. It's not my favorite gourmet grocer.

                                                                                    http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                      FoodDabbler RE: MC Slim JB Jan 12, 2011 11:31 AM

                                                                                      I want to make clear that I'm talking about *competent*, standard sandwiches, not extraordinary sensory experiences for your tongue (or "lousy" sandwiches on the other end of the scale). If you're in a real hurry there's the Don Pepi deli on the Amtrak level that's very fast, has several acceptable bread options, and makes sandwiches competently. The meat is Boar's Head, but is quite tasty. I'm guessing that there are options among standard BH offerings, and this deli makes good choices. Their roast beef, for instance, is often faintly garlicy.

                                                                                      If you have the time to wander up and down 9th, or are coming from one of these directions, there are first-rate options in places in Chelsea Market in the south to places in the low forties. There's a new portuguese-inspired sandwich place at the north end of this strip that's very good, but the name escapes me. And if you have a lot of time, then Sullivan Street Bakery off 10th and on 47th (or thereabouts) is extraordinary. Their sandwiches are very good, their flat breads superb (especially the mushroom and the potato), and you can get a bombolini for dessert, or osso di morte (the dry, bones-of-death cookies).

                                                                                      Nearer Penn, and away from sandwiches, there are good takeout options in Koreatown on 32nd. There's also a booth of the 'wichcraft empire off 32nd just before you hit Koreatown. The sandwiches are good, but often pre-made. Ask if they are fresh.

                                                                                      Back in Penn, if you stand with your back to the LIRR ticket windows, there's a branch of Island Dine in front of you. I've had decent oxtail curry, salt fish and okra, etc., in the past, but have not had their food in over two years. Facing the LIRR ticket windows you'll see a place called Tracks. It has slightly OK pub-type food, and if you walk past the long bar as you enter, way at the back there's improbably an oyster bar. The quality is uneven.

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                                                                                  BobB RE: AndrewPF Jan 12, 2011 10:18 AM

                                                                                  Brookline used to have good delis years ago. Many years ago. But much as I love Michael's corned beef, there hasn't been a single good full-line deli in town since the B&D closed back in 2005.

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                                                                                    StriperGuy RE: BobB Jan 12, 2011 03:15 PM

                                                                                    B&D was not that good.

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                                                                                      MC Slim JB RE: StriperGuy Jan 13, 2011 04:31 AM

                                                                                      Joe V's is leaving the South End, taking over the space that used to be B&D; it will be called Jimmy's. If he does the same concept, that food might make you long for B&D.

                                                                                      http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                              catspercapita RE: marcreichman Dec 29, 2010 01:54 PM

                                                                              .....say "that chowda's wicked awesome"

                                                                              1. ecwashere7 RE: marcreichman Dec 29, 2010 03:50 PM

                                                                                ... knows that the best Italian grub isn't in the North End.

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                                                                                  MC Slim JB RE: ecwashere7 Dec 30, 2010 07:50 AM

                                                                                  ...or that our reputation as a town loaded with great seafood restaurants is undeserved.

                                                                                  http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                    ecwashere7 RE: MC Slim JB Jan 5, 2011 12:08 PM

                                                                                    Island Creek and Neptune are changing my mind on that front. I still miss Great Bay.

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                                                                                      StriperGuy RE: ecwashere7 Jan 11, 2011 07:31 AM

                                                                                      East Coast Grill is my fav.

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                                                                                    MAhasbadfood RE: ecwashere7 Dec 30, 2010 08:41 AM

                                                                                    I know that. So where is the best Italian food?

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                                                                                      MC Slim JB RE: MAhasbadfood Dec 30, 2010 08:56 AM

                                                                                      The North End has some worthy Italian restaurants; it just has low average quality, especially considering its fame/reputation. "Good Italian restaurants outside of the North End" is a pretty popular topic here; a little searching will yield many responses. A few that readily come to mind: Erbaluce, Vinny's at Night, Trattoria Toscana, Rino's Place, Carlo's Cucina Italiana, Coppa Enoteca, Grotto, Via Matta, Il Casale, Sportello.

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                                                                                      130 Jersey St, Boston, MA 02215

                                                                                      Rino's Place
                                                                                      258 Saratoga Street, Boston, MA 02128

                                                                                      Via Matta
                                                                                      79 Park Plaza, Boston, MA 02116

                                                                                      Sportello
                                                                                      348 Congress Street, Boston, MA 02110

                                                                                      Erbaluce
                                                                                      69 Church Street, Boston, MA 02116

                                                                                      Coppa
                                                                                      253 Shawmut Ave, Boston, MA 02118

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                                                                                        cheesefries RE: MC Slim JB Dec 30, 2010 09:18 AM

                                                                                        Second that on Carlo's, best value I've had in town.

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                                                                                          ecwashere7 RE: MC Slim JB Jan 5, 2011 12:07 PM

                                                                                          In full agreement with MC Slim, I love Via Matta and Erbaluce for their take on Northern Italian. I love Coppa for its creativity and Carlo's is great for Italian American that is simple yet tasty.

                                                                                          I go into the North End for Neptune Oyster and Salumeria. Occasionally I'll eat at Taranta and Prezza (I think you get more for your money at Erbaluce, Via and Coppa).

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                                                                                          63 Salem St Ste 1, Boston, MA 02113

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                                                                                          24 Fleet St., Boston, MA 02113

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                                                                                          79 Park Plaza, Boston, MA 02116

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                                                                                          69 Church Street, Boston, MA 02116

                                                                                          Coppa
                                                                                          253 Shawmut Ave, Boston, MA 02118

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                                                                                      9lives RE: marcreichman Dec 30, 2010 06:58 AM

                                                                                      Long lunch of excelllent Peruvian food at Rincon Limeno in E Boston; followed by a Meridian Special from Italian grocer Meridian

                                                                                      http://www.flickr.com/photos/61246842...

                                                                                      followed by home made Pisco Sours..

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                                                                                      8 or 9 course tasting lunch at #9, with a cocktail and or wine pairing..that lasted until dinner, so we had a small diiner at our same table..noon to 9-10PM

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                                                                                        nephyrwynn RE: 9lives Jan 13, 2011 12:24 AM

                                                                                        Especially the BANDERA!!!!

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                                                                                        grant.cook RE: marcreichman Dec 30, 2010 08:08 AM

                                                                                        * Have a valid 2-sided debate whether the lobster roll is better at a high-end restaurant in the North End or at a shack out near the Airport on the way to Wintrop

                                                                                        * Know that the Arlington Greek festival is the best because the lamb is nicely cooked on a spit..

                                                                                        * Pine for a higher level of ramen, soup dumplings, and yakitori, whilst also wishing our weather allowed places with big open decks to sit outside and drink margaritas in April or food trucks to show up in random places serving delicious treats year round.

                                                                                        * Wonder if a talented young chef with a vision could ever salvage Anthony's Pier 4

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                                                                                          MC Slim JB RE: grant.cook Dec 30, 2010 08:17 AM

                                                                                          Great list! I wonder if it's better to hope for a new ownership / new concept reboot of the Pier 4 location; they're back in tax trouble again there, another half-million-dollar "accounting oversight".

                                                                                          http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

                                                                                        2. Prav RE: marcreichman Dec 30, 2010 08:22 AM

                                                                                          ...have fond memories of the (intoxicating scents emitted from the) secret donut place by Davis Square!

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                                                                                            bear RE: marcreichman Dec 30, 2010 10:23 AM

                                                                                            ...have a bowl of carbonara (bacon and eggs, right?) for breakfast while husband munches on tenderloin and eggs at 9:30 a.m. at Caffe Nuovo in the North End, and then head over to Maria's for cannoli for dessert. Hey, it's five o'clock somewhere.

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                                                                                            76 Salem St, Boston, MA 02113

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                                                                                              opinionatedchef RE: bear Jan 11, 2011 01:04 PM

                                                                                              bear, THANK you for that. i love to laugh.

                                                                                              i think you would appreciate the NewYorker cartoon showing a man in front of an ice cream cart, saying
                                                                                              " i'll have the double fudge cranberry pecan AND the coconut banana caramel. We pass this way but once."

                                                                                            2. Veggo RE: marcreichman Dec 30, 2010 11:42 AM

                                                                                              still have a knish from Buzzy's in their freezer

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                                                                                                gourmaniac RE: Veggo Dec 30, 2010 01:12 PM

                                                                                                I may still have a Buzzy's knish in my lower intestine as they were undigestible. I fondly recall their french fries!

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                                                                                                  devilham RE: gourmaniac Jan 11, 2011 09:02 AM

                                                                                                  Jesus, their french fries were a whole potato, cut in 4 chunks and then poorly fried...I hated those things.....why did I order them every weekend??!!!?

                                                                                                  Me and a freind at Buzzy's for the umpteenth time ordering knishes, giant fat man at counter chuckles and says, "man, you guys really like those knishes", my friend looks him dead in the eye and says "no".

                                                                                                  And yet, there we were the next week, racing down Storrow from Allston in the dead of night to order more.....go figure!

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                                                                                                    hiddenboston RE: devilham Jan 11, 2011 10:00 AM

                                                                                                    This may be the funniest post of 2011 so far. :-D

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                                                                                                      nsenada RE: devilham Jan 11, 2011 04:45 PM

                                                                                                      The Buzzy's experience, oft thought, but never so well expressed.

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                                                                                                        Veggo RE: nsenada Jan 12, 2011 07:26 AM

                                                                                                        Sure, the knishes were $2 scud missiles that could satiate any drunken hunger, but remember the beautiful aroma that wafted from the foil pack as you unwrapped the roast beef sandwich, lathered with that wonderful sauce...

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                                                                                                        Uncle Yabai RE: devilham Feb 8, 2011 02:32 AM

                                                                                                        Or its corollary, sometime in 1985 or thereabouts. Scene: 3 or 4 AM, at Buzzy's, in the proper state of mind for Buzzy's, with college roommate. My roommate just loved the Buzzy's BBQ sandwich. Goes up to the counter to giant fat man at counter, says to him, "I really love your BBQ sandwich." Guy says, "you like this shit?"

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                                                                                                          devilham RE: Uncle Yabai Feb 8, 2011 11:18 AM

                                                                                                          Awesome, that guy was a trip! Not freindly at all, but a trip.

                                                                                                  2. AndrewPF RE: marcreichman Dec 31, 2010 10:07 AM

                                                                                                    ...debate Mike's vs. Modern.

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                                                                                                      tatamagouche RE: AndrewPF Jan 10, 2011 01:57 PM

                                                                                                      vs. Maria's.

                                                                                                    2. erikschwarz RE: marcreichman Dec 31, 2010 10:11 AM

                                                                                                      ...wear a Red Sox ballcap to afternoon tea at the Athenaeum.

                                                                                                       
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                                                                                                        BostonZest RE: erikschwarz Dec 31, 2010 05:32 PM

                                                                                                        I haven't seen that one yet but I did have a meal at L'Espalier tainted by an older woman in a team shirt with some player's name on the back and a snack at the bar at L'Voile interruruped by a "Mrs Kraft' Look alike who was trying get them to put the football game on their computer screen in back of the bar- even though she was not sitting in the area.

                                                                                                        My husband explained to her that we were there because they DID NOT have football on and she told us we were not "Real Bostonians" before she toddered away.

                                                                                                        Penny
                                                                                                        http://www.bostonzest.com/

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                                                                                                          astrid RE: BostonZest Jan 2, 2011 09:34 AM

                                                                                                          Agreed... i had an anniversary diner at the Capital Grille in which my direct view (from a table I had selected ahead of time) was a dude in a Varitek t-shirt. Did not make the dinner feel special.

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                                                                                                            treb RE: astrid Jan 2, 2011 12:54 PM

                                                                                                            A Dress Code?? haven't heard that term in a while.

                                                                                                      2. itaunas RE: marcreichman Jan 6, 2011 07:06 AM

                                                                                                        ...be excited to travel to Boston for a week in January because its Maine Shrimp season (hope saying that doesn't jink the fishing weather though)!

                                                                                                        1. nsenada RE: marcreichman Jan 6, 2011 07:17 AM

                                                                                                          Insist on stopping at the Baltic Deli for an eclair, with stomach dangerously distended by a Speed Dog and Speed Pastrami, whilst bemoaning the decision not to stop at Liquor World.

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                                                                                                            BostonZest RE: nsenada Jan 6, 2011 07:57 AM

                                                                                                            Did you have the speed dog with the pastrami? Husband and I shared one of those this week.

                                                                                                            Penny
                                                                                                            http://www.bostonzest.com/

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                                                                                                              MC Slim JB RE: BostonZest Jan 6, 2011 08:53 AM

                                                                                                              You have to have a serious appetite to polish off either one; both is frightening to me. Baltic is awesome, and Liquor Land is surprisingly good.

                                                                                                              http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                                                hiddenboston RE: MC Slim JB Jan 6, 2011 08:58 AM

                                                                                                                I had a Speed dog awhile back, then finished things off (almost literally) with an empanada and fries from the Oasis food truck next door.
                                                                                                                My doctor won't let me do that again.

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                                                                                                                  MC Slim JB RE: hiddenboston Jan 6, 2011 09:03 AM

                                                                                                                  Oasis is one of those Neglected Places Next to a Good Place (e.g., El Chalan next to Rincon Limeno, Buteco next to Brown Sugar, Thaitation next to Trattoria Toscana, Taco Loco near Vinny's at Night, etc.) that I've long eyeballed but can never pass up Speed's to try. Worthwhile?

                                                                                                                  http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                                                  130 Jersey St, Boston, MA 02215

                                                                                                                  Rincon Limeno
                                                                                                                  409 Chelsea St, Boston, MA 02128

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                                                                                                                    hiddenboston RE: MC Slim JB Jan 6, 2011 09:19 AM

                                                                                                                    It was pretty good. The empanada was dry, but the beef was seasoned well as I recall. The fries were nothing to write home about. Nice people there....

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                                                                                                                  nsenada RE: MC Slim JB Jan 6, 2011 10:36 AM

                                                                                                                  Demolished one Dog, and half a pastrami.

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                                                                                                                Ralphie_in_Boston RE: nsenada Jan 10, 2011 11:07 AM

                                                                                                                Darn, they have eclairs at that deli? When I was there they only had jelly donuts (which were good), or am I completely confusing this with another place nearby?

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                                                                                                                  nsenada RE: Ralphie_in_Boston Jan 11, 2011 04:56 AM

                                                                                                                  I first got into the eclairs when they ran out of the donuts. They are pretty huge, and awesome. I'm not sure if they make them there, but I prefer them to the donut.

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                                                                                                                    Ralphie_in_Boston RE: nsenada Jan 11, 2011 06:16 AM

                                                                                                                    Can't wait to check it out. Thanks

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                                                                                                                fredid RE: marcreichman Jan 9, 2011 12:18 PM

                                                                                                                Be thrilled to be driven squished in the back seat for 35 minutes to a wonderful feast of Cambodian food in Lowell!

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                                                                                                                  Taralli RE: fredid Jan 10, 2011 04:13 AM

                                                                                                                  And absolutely worth it!

                                                                                                                2. threedogs RE: marcreichman Jan 9, 2011 06:56 PM

                                                                                                                  ...be envious of the food blogger who wrote "my mother gave me some duck fat for my birthday."

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                                                                                                                    opinionatedchef RE: threedogs Jan 11, 2011 01:09 PM

                                                                                                                    i understand completely, but just fyi, not v expensive at savenors.

                                                                                                                  2. tatamagouche RE: marcreichman Jan 10, 2011 01:54 PM

                                                                                                                    move to Denver, but come back as often as possible, for instance on the most recent visit (last week) to eat over 70 dishes in the course of 6 days?

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                                                                                                                      hiddenboston RE: tatamagouche Jan 11, 2011 05:15 AM

                                                                                                                      Ahhhh, now I know who tatamagouche is.... :-)

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                                                                                                                        tatamagouche RE: hiddenboston Jan 11, 2011 11:22 AM

                                                                                                                        Burp.

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                                                                                                                      Brock Lee Robb RE: marcreichman Jan 11, 2011 08:53 AM

                                                                                                                      ... ask for a "cannolo", thinking I was being suave, using the singular when I wanted only one (and this at a well-known place with an Italian name) though I don't speak a word of Italian (well OK, one word). My request was met with a confused silence, so I quickly added, "one cannoli, please." "Ahhh, chocolate or regular?"

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                                                                                                                        Ralphie_in_Boston RE: Brock Lee Robb Jan 11, 2011 09:06 AM

                                                                                                                        I've always wondered if that was the correct singular term, but never had a practical use to find out, as I've NEVER bought only one! :)

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                                                                                                                        tamerlanenj RE: marcreichman Jan 11, 2011 11:19 AM

                                                                                                                        I once thought about this when I stopped for a slice at Newbury Pizza on my way to pick up Taiwanese food from Wisteria House. Back when both those places existed in the Back Bay...(not that bostone pizza isn't good!)

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                                                                                                                        569 Cambridge St, Cambridge, MA 02141

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                                                                                                                          Jenny Ondioline RE: tamerlanenj Jan 11, 2011 01:37 PM

                                                                                                                          Wisteria House not only no longer exists in the Back Bay, it no longer exists. Both the satellites are closed now.

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                                                                                                                        2. yumyum RE: marcreichman Jan 11, 2011 01:38 PM

                                                                                                                          See a "snow day" as an opportunity to walk to a local tavern for a long lazy lunch, or start wondering the minute the snow emergency is declared if it's going to be possible to get food from the Paddock.

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                                                                                                                            hiddenboston RE: yumyum Jan 11, 2011 01:50 PM

                                                                                                                            That's exactly what I did last week, and it wasn't even snowing! :-b

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                                                                                                                              itaunas RE: yumyum Jan 12, 2011 04:51 AM

                                                                                                                              Given that my Maine shrimp now seem like a remote possibility how is the charcoal situation? (maybe some supermarket will have them on sale this weekend to move out shrimp fished before the storm, but head-on with roe seems unlikely until late next week). I am sure the stores are stripped bare of water, milk, candles, but if I can get a flight in late today I feel like a good old snow emergency "BBQ" (New England BBQ aka grilling).

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                                                                                                                                devilham RE: itaunas Jan 12, 2011 05:58 AM

                                                                                                                                Brookline Ice and Coal always has charcoal and woodchunks, year round.

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                                                                                                                                  bear RE: itaunas Jan 12, 2011 06:33 AM

                                                                                                                                  Seabra in Somerville had lots of bags of Royal Oak for $6.99 yesterday.

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                                                                                                                                    nsenada RE: itaunas Jan 12, 2011 12:45 PM

                                                                                                                                    Restaurant depot always seems to have the large royal oak bags, though I'm getting annoyed with the fact that the charcoal seems to consist of one giant, unbroken sequoia stump these days.

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                                                                                                                                      opinionatedchef RE: nsenada Jan 12, 2011 02:26 PM

                                                                                                                                      you can also buy it at brookline ice and coal near brookline village(or have it delivered).
                                                                                                                                      lots of smoking woods, charcoals, etc.

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                                                                                                                                  9lives RE: marcreichman Jan 11, 2011 05:30 PM

                                                                                                                                  be watching the weather, and hoping that Thmor Da..X Floating Rock will be open and accessible in Revere tomorrow for an early lunch...major craving.:)

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                                                                                                                                    9lives RE: 9lives Jan 12, 2011 04:56 AM

                                                                                                                                    no answer.....bummer

                                                                                                                                  2. BobB RE: marcreichman Jan 12, 2011 10:20 AM

                                                                                                                                    ...know that cheddar rhymes with feta.

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                                                                                                                                      tatamagouche RE: BobB Jan 12, 2011 10:25 AM

                                                                                                                                      Someday, Chowhound's gonna get a Like button.

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                                                                                                                                        Brock Lee Robb RE: tatamagouche Jan 12, 2011 11:06 AM

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                                                                                                                                    2. nephyrwynn RE: marcreichman Jan 13, 2011 12:26 AM

                                                                                                                                      Avoid the line at Mike's Pastry and treat yourself to a nice Mocha at Cafe Vittoria... then take your car and hike your butt 45 minutes up north to Rockport and get Fried Clams at The Lobster Pool while downing your own 6 pack of Non-Sam Adams beet

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                                                                                                                                      Lobster Pool
                                                                                                                                      329 Granite St, Rockport, MA 01966

                                                                                                                                      Mike's Pastry
                                                                                                                                      300 Hanover St, Boston, MA

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                                                                                                                                        southie_chick RE: nephyrwynn Jan 13, 2011 05:17 PM

                                                                                                                                        Speaking of fried clams ........... I drive 130+ miles to the Hingham Lobster Pound (from Merrimack, NH) 'cause the clams don't taste as good up here as they do down there. I do stop along the way back at Fratelli's for eclairs. I also drive to the Coolidge Corner Theater at least once a month 'cause they have the best popcorn .......... I mean, 'cause it's a great place to see a film. ; )
                                                                                                                                        My hubby & I will also fly once a season to Jaffrey, NH to Kimballs for a "$115 lobster roll" (well, it's actually 2 lobster rolls, rings, lemonade, which is about $40 .......... & $75 for the hour of plane time!).

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                                                                                                                                        LStaff RE: marcreichman Feb 3, 2011 06:43 AM

                                                                                                                                        At the risk of taking a beating on this one -

                                                                                                                                        ...consider a gristly, oversized sausage with a sweet (grape jelly?) sauce the best hot dog on the planet.

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                                                                                                                                          MC Slim JB RE: LStaff Feb 3, 2011 07:12 AM

                                                                                                                                          I know that Grote & Weigel dog has serious snap, but gristle? I go light on that relish, as I too find it a bit sweet.

                                                                                                                                          http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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                                                                                                                                            Jenny Ondioline RE: LStaff Feb 3, 2011 10:08 AM

                                                                                                                                            Gristly? I don't personally see that at all, but it's certainly a dog with some body to it.

                                                                                                                                            I've had the dog without the relish, but it just seems unbalanced without it.

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                                                                                                                                              nsenada RE: LStaff Feb 3, 2011 11:48 AM

                                                                                                                                              ...and be right.

                                                                                                                                              I'd no less enjoy a Speed Dog if I saw an anchor tattoo hidden on the inside of the tubesteak. I have heard the sweetness complaint from others, I definitely enjoy it though.

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                                                                                                                                                Ralphie_in_Boston RE: nsenada Feb 7, 2011 01:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                oh, is that what that was a reference to? Grape jelly on a speed dog? LOL,

                                                                                                                                                I am generally not a fan of sweet-on-savory (I don't care for chutney, for instance) but the relish on the Speed's dog for some reason just works for me.

                                                                                                                                                How does one puree gristle anyway?

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                                                                                                                                                  threedogs RE: Ralphie_in_Boston Feb 7, 2011 01:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                  It's sweet, but it's not grape jelly, lol. I remember Speed himself telling us that it was his *secret* sauce, and wouldn't let us in on the secret. I was with someone (who introduced me to Speed) then who knew him way, way back, when he was on Blue Hill Ave., I think it was - before the infamous Boston bussing & riot days.

                                                                                                                                                  I love Speed - anyone hear how he is (and where)? I picture him retired in Florida til he's over a hundred.

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                                                                                                                                                    BostonZest RE: threedogs Feb 7, 2011 05:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                    I ran into Speed last year at Newmarket Sq. Guess he was checking up on his fans! I wrote about it and posted a photo of him that I took that day. He looked great! Gave me a big smile and was enjoying being the center of attention.

                                                                                                                                                    Chef Greg is always able to tell me how Speed is doing when I ask.

                                                                                                                                                    Penny
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                                                                                                                                                      threedogs RE: BostonZest Feb 10, 2011 05:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                      Awesome! Can you give a link to the photo & write-up? I looked on your blog - which is really great, btw - but couldn't find it. Of course I ended up just reading your articles, which got me too hungry, of course...

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                                                                                                                                                        Delhiwala RE: threedogs Feb 10, 2011 07:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                        Here is the link:
                                                                                                                                                        http://www.bostonzest.com/2010/05/loo...

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                                                                                                                                                          threedogs RE: Delhiwala Feb 19, 2011 03:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                          Thanks for the link! Fantastic seeing Speed after all these years. Now I'm dying to try the pastrami, too.

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                                                                                                                                              thanksgang RE: marcreichman Feb 10, 2011 04:45 AM

                                                                                                                                              ...refuse to eat anything called "chowda" or "lobstah" with the exception of Lobsta Land in Gloucester. After a 30 year ban it turns out it's a locals place with pretty good food.

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                                                                                                                                                PinchOfSalt RE: thanksgang Feb 10, 2011 07:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                What 30 year ban? Is the restaurant that old?

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                                                                                                                                                  thanksgang RE: PinchOfSalt Feb 11, 2011 06:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                  I meant I drove by it for 30 years before stopping in. Glad I did

                                                                                                                                              2. opinionatedchef RE: marcreichman Feb 19, 2011 11:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                Visit and eat at Viva Mi Arepa, Pizzeria/Taqueria Romano, and Taqueria El Amigo all in one day,
                                                                                                                                                in an attempt to learn more about Venezuelan comfort food and to continue to locate the best tacos in Boston(fyi, definitely not at the aformentioned TR and TEA.)

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                                                                                                                                                196 Willow St, Waltham, MA 02453

                                                                                                                                                Viva Mi Arepa
                                                                                                                                                5197 Washington St, West Roxbury, MA 02132

                                                                                                                                                1. yumyum RE: marcreichman Mar 24, 2011 01:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                  ENDLESSLY debate the merits of the canonical NE roast beef sandwich, complete with a full download about the proper roll, discussion of the appropriate sauces, and meat temp.

                                                                                                                                                  Hey, I fully understand. I have friends who have moved away who will never get over missing our particular roast beef sander.

                                                                                                                                                  At least we have one sandwich (besides the lobster roll) that lives up to culinary greatness and hyperbole like the Italian beef or the Hot Brown.

                                                                                                                                                  (Edit to add: which reminds me, the new issue of Saveur is dedicated to sandwiches and is well worth picking up.)

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