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Morningstar...a non kosher transition?

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KosherVeg Dec 21, 2010 07:38 PM

I just came across this:
"following kashrus advisory is from the OK on December 13 2010. Please be advised that Morningstar Farms Chik'n Strips are no longer being produced as Kosher. The item will no longer bear an OK symbol on the package. Items seen in the store with an OK can still be used. "
(http://www.kashrut.com/Alerts/?alert=...

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Any word out there if they're going to switch hashgachot or why this might be going unkosher? Man, our veggie fajitas were the best with these...any other good replacements out there?

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    mamaleh RE: KosherVeg Dec 21, 2010 10:15 PM

    Aaaargh! That is terrible news for my Chinese Chickenless Salad. I'll have to start experimenting with the White Wave chicken style seitan. The family likes it in stir fry dishes.

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      SoCal Mother RE: mamaleh Dec 21, 2010 10:39 PM

      Never heard of it. I just sent them an e-mail asking where to buy it.

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        mamaleh RE: SoCal Mother Dec 21, 2010 11:05 PM

        I buy it at Whole Foods or Mothers Market.

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          mamaleh RE: mamaleh Dec 22, 2010 06:59 AM

          The Tofurky brand marinated tempeh flavors are pretty good too, but the texture is not as smooth. Yves makes imitation chicken strips that I use to make wonton.

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            SoCal Mother RE: mamaleh Dec 22, 2010 09:04 AM

            Thanks! I need to go to Whole Foods this week anyway to get toasted sesame seeds if it EVER stops raining.

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            cheesecake17 RE: SoCal Mother Dec 22, 2010 10:15 AM

            Wegman's in NJ has it White Wave products..

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          SoCal Mother RE: KosherVeg Dec 21, 2010 10:35 PM

          Time to start writing letters to Morningstar!!

          It worked when Duncan Hines started to make their cakes dairy even though it didn't work when Dannon trefed up their fruit yogurts.

          1. hill food RE: KosherVeg Dec 21, 2010 10:54 PM

            makes ya wonder what's going on in the corporate office. a few years back, they dumped the corndogs. (ostensibly due to supplier problems)

            1. pitagirl RE: KosherVeg Dec 22, 2010 09:10 AM

              I stopped using them when I realized everything had milk in it. I use the yves chicken strips and "ground beef" they are awesome and parve.

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                KosherVeg RE: pitagirl Dec 22, 2010 09:11 AM

                I think a letter writing campaign is definitely in order. I just sent an email.

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                SoCal Mother RE: KosherVeg Dec 22, 2010 11:16 AM

                I'm particularly unhappy because the Morningstar products are much less expensive (especially if I get them at Target) than the other companies' products. Yves is delicious but $$$.

                1. azcohen RE: KosherVeg Dec 23, 2010 07:33 AM

                  ARGHHHHH I use it for making my indian dishes.

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                    SoCal Mother RE: KosherVeg Dec 23, 2010 11:45 AM

                    I received this reply from Morningstar:

                    Thank you for your recent email regarding the Kosher certification in MorningStar Farms® Meal Starters™ Chik'n Strips.

                    The Kosher certification was removed from this product due to change in manufacturing location. Over time, these Kosher certifications may change, so the best way to determine a product's Kosher status is to look at the package. We do not offer Kosher lists of our products, as these may become outdated and inaccurate over time. However, the product's package will always reflect the correct information.

                    We are sorry that this change has made an impact on your dietary needs and will be glad to share your comments to the appropriate personnel.

                    Best of health,

                    Mark A. Suriano
                    Consumer Specialist
                    Consumer Affairs

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                      pitagirl RE: SoCal Mother Dec 23, 2010 01:41 PM

                      I guess more jobs lost to Mexico?

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                        cheesecake17 RE: pitagirl Dec 23, 2010 03:17 PM

                        why do you say mexico? are most of their products made in mexico?

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                          SoCal Mother RE: cheesecake17 Dec 23, 2010 06:07 PM

                          The kosher Chik'N'Strips are made in Canada according to the label.

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                            KosherVeg RE: SoCal Mother Dec 23, 2010 08:45 PM

                            This is mine:

                            Thank you for your recent email regarding in MorningStar Farms® Meal Starters™ Chik'n Strips, we are happy to provide the following information.

                            Over time, Kosher certifications may change, so the best way to determine a product's Kosher status is to look at the package. The facility in which these strips are being made in has been changed which is why it no longer is kosher certified.

                            The kosher certification refers to the entire production process, and not just a product's ingredients. It is possible that this product could not be certifiable even though it does not contain any objectionable ingredients. Under these circumstances, it is likely that a non-Kosher product was produced on the same line, which led to the product not receiving certification. Over time, these Kosher certifications may change, so the best way to determine a product's Kosher status is to look at the package. The product's package will always reflect the correct information. We do not offer Kosher lists of our products, as these may become outdated and inaccurate over time. However, the product's package will always reflect the correct information.

                            We appreciate you taking time out of your day to reach out to us. Happy Holidays!

                            Best of health,

                            Giselle Mendoza
                            Consumer Specialist
                            Consumer Affairs

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                              hill food RE: KosherVeg Dec 23, 2010 10:13 PM

                              interesting that Giselle's response is a bit (albeit the same) in more detail than Mark's.

                              maybe there's a new thread "who's your favorite Morningstar spokesperson ID?" yeah!

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                                SoCal Mother RE: hill food Dec 24, 2010 08:31 AM

                                Well it worked for Duncan Hines. People wrote and begged them not to go dairy and they listened!

                                Since the Seattle bus thing is over, why not take a minute out and write to Morningstar and complain?

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                                  queenscook RE: hill food Dec 28, 2010 03:08 AM

                                  I just received the following. Note how it's a bit different from the other one that the same guy sent out.

                                  Thank you for your recent email regarding Kosher certification with MorningStar Farms® Meal Starters™ Chik'n Strips, we are happy to provide the following information.

                                  Currently this product is not certified Kosher. The Kosher certification was removed due to change in manufacturing location.

                                  If the product you are interested in is Kosher certified, its packaging will reflect the Rabbinical Council that certified the product, as well as the certification category. Over time, these Kosher certifications may change, so the best way to determine a product's Kosher status is to look at the package. We do not offer Kosher lists of our products, as these may become outdated and inaccurate over time. However, the product's package will always reflect the correct information.

                                  Thanks again for contacting us about this and hope you'll enjoy many of our products for years to come.

                                  Best of health,

                                  Mark A. Suriano
                                  Consumer Specialist
                                  Consumer Affairs

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                        TAKEOUTISFORME RE: KosherVeg Dec 29, 2010 04:58 AM

                        How upsetting!! My daughter is a vegetarian and she's been eating this product for a long time, with stir fry veggies. I used to buy the steak strips but haven't found them in months. I will definitely join those of you who have contacted the company. Thanks for the information.

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                          smtanen RE: KosherVeg Dec 29, 2010 06:31 PM

                          I highly recommend Lightlife Smart Strips Chick'n style strips - they are circle K and pareve, which is better for vegans.

                          1. Tamar Genger RE: KosherVeg Dec 30, 2010 09:41 AM

                            I only hope this is not the beginning of a trend for them, but while we are writing, maybe we can convince Gardein to get a Hechsher too, it was started by the guy who made Yves, so I am not sure what is stopping them.

                            As for other options, you can try and make your own Seitan, it is a bit of work, but you can make it ahead and then cut into strips and flavor how ever you want.

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                              evalinrose RE: KosherVeg Dec 31, 2010 09:05 AM

                              I just sent an email to Morningstar Farms to weigh in on this issue, (fortunately I still have one OK certified package in my freezer). In addition to commenting specifically on the Chik'n Strips, I mentioned that all the new entrees are not certified Kosher and asked if they were planning to move in a nonkosher direction.

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                                marissaj RE: evalinrose Jan 3, 2011 09:19 AM

                                I am a member of their FB group. I noticed that they have brought back both corn dogs and mini corndogs (people were complaining daily about them being discontinued)- of course, neither of these are kosher.. BUT it got me thinking that if they respond to some consumers complaints, chances are if enough of us write and complain abt the chicken strips etc, they may listen to us too.

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                                  KosherVeg RE: marissaj Jan 3, 2011 06:18 PM

                                  Ok, that's it then. Let's spread the word. Tweet it, FB it...everything.

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                                  evalinrose RE: evalinrose Jan 5, 2011 10:49 AM

                                  In response to my email, I received a telephone call from customer service at Morningstar Farms Monday afternoon. The young representative seemed like a nice kid but he really didn't have any information.

                                  1. First he tried to tell me that there were two kinds of chik'n strips and thaty only one of them wasn't certified.

                                  2. When I read him the label from my certified package and told him that I had seen the same product without the symbol in the grocery store this week. He said it must have been a labeling mistake

                                  3. Next I mentioned the kashruth alert, which he didn't seem to be aware of. He responded with something to the effect that the products will probably be recertified the next time the plant is inspected.

                                  Frustrating to say the least.

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                                    hill food RE: evalinrose Jan 5, 2011 07:55 PM

                                    beingraised a Gentile myself I can only sympathize (although I recently found out my dad would have had right of return by his mother, wha??) , but the kid on the phone and perhaps management just don't understand how important this issue is to observant people, and let's face it some of the rules are difficult to understand (they are there for a reason, just difficult for a newbie to grasp)

                                    but no reason to dismiss a smart label reading consumer base.

                                3. weinstein5 RE: KosherVeg Jan 5, 2011 07:11 PM

                                  A replacement to some of the morningstar products I would recommend is http://www.uptonsnaturals.com/ - their seitan meat substitutes are excellent and under CRC supervision -

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