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Bethcooks Dec 19, 2010 04:29 PM

I made curried chicken [thighs and legs] in the slow cooker. The recipe called for onion, garlic, cumin, cinnamon, ginger, turmeric, cloves, cardamon, and crushed red pepper flakes. Spices were good so that was not the problem. But when the chicken was cooked the sauce was bland and without flavor. I followed the recipe which called for adding spices, etc at beginning of cook time. Should I have added them later? At the end? What happened???

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    Nocturnalbill Dec 19, 2010 04:33 PM

    What was the age of spices? Usually those are spices that will hold up for long cooking, so my thought would be that they might be suffering from sitting around for ages disease like half my spices.

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      Bethcooks Dec 19, 2010 05:06 PM

      Actually the spices were really "fresh" - smell and taste were fine. We have a store here that sells spices in small amounts [bulk foods type place] and I had just bought all the spices.

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      fourunder Dec 19, 2010 04:38 PM

      No browning .....therefore no caramelization....less flavor

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        Bethcooks Dec 19, 2010 05:09 PM

        Would that explain the total loss of "spice flavor"? The recipe did not include a browning step and presumably there was some curry flavor or why call it curried chicken?

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          fourunder Dec 19, 2010 05:16 PM

          With due respect.......I am not familiar with crockpot cooking.....other than you combine a lot of ingredients into a vessel, turn a knob and come back 8 hours later and you have a meal. I have a couple of different crockpots and i have used them for corned beef, pot roasts and stews...but they never seem to come out as good as a braise on the stove top or in the oven...

          I suspect it has to due with the first steps of sauteing the mirepoix , then browning the meats.....steps that are generally skipped when using the slow cookers. Adding the spices to the higher heat in the beginning, with olive oil, releases more natural oils in the spices....or at least that is how it is explained to me.....also, bruising any spices also releases the oil content, rather than just throwing them in.

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            Bethcooks Dec 19, 2010 06:03 PM

            That is a very interesting point - spices may have needed to be sauted in oil. I usually do it that way. I am new to slow cooker cooking so just blindly followed recipe. Will try that.

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              chowser Dec 20, 2010 04:36 AM

              Even if you're not a slow cooker person, fourunder, you hit the nail on the head. If you want good results from a slow cooker, you can't just throw everything in there and turn it on. For me, it's more work but being busy in the late afternoon, I can come home to dinner that's cooked.

              Thighs and legs are the way to go but chicken skin turns out mushy in the slow cooker so I remove those first. I'd rub the chicken w/ spices and sear and then add to crockpot. In the pan where I seared the chicken, I add aromatics, vegetables, etc. and sautee them in chicken fat, residue. Add wine or alcohol to deglaze and burn off. Then add the stock, much less than you'd use if you were to braise on the stove or in the oven. Then, add all that to the slow cooker. To make it more complicated, to thicken the sauce, I remove the chicken/meat, transfer the sauce to the stove and thicken it, either w/ an immersion blender, if there are enough vegetables, or add beurre manier or cornstarch w/ water and then season to taste.

              I know people claim to get great results just throwing everything in but I haven't found that to be the case. Before I pick up any slow cooker cook book, I look at the recipes and see the methods first. That all said, I don't find the results from the slow cooker to be better than the stove or oven but it's convenient.

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          tldmatrix Dec 19, 2010 05:07 PM

          NO SALT OR ACID. No Maillard reaction.
          http://teenchefteddy.blogspot.com/

          1. goodhealthgourmet Dec 19, 2010 05:11 PM

            no salt?

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              Bethcooks Dec 19, 2010 06:04 PM

              Forgot to say salt. There was salt but nothing really acid.

            2. cowboyardee Dec 19, 2010 09:05 PM

              Probably not enough salt, possibly not enough acid.

              Also, all of the spices you added are fine to add early in the cooking time. But if you want any of them a little sharper and more distinct in the sauce, you might want to add them just and hour or so before you're finished cooking.

              Browning adds its own flavor, but shouldn't do anything much to intensify flavor that should already be there.

              It also might have helped to reduce the sauce more.

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                yfunk3 Dec 20, 2010 04:42 AM

                How long did you cook the chicken and spices? I find that slow cookers get pretty dang hot nowadays, so I try not to cook anything for over 6 hours on low and 3.5/4 hours on high. It really made a difference to me. It's come to the point where, unless I don't have the time to baby something on the stove, I try not to use the slow cooker too much. Shame, since I love being lazy!

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                  chowser Dec 20, 2010 04:50 AM

                  It helps to have a timer on it that resets to warm when cooked. I wouldn't buy a slow cooker w/out one. I've also measure the temperature of mine at low, med, high to see how hot it gets. My old one was terrible--way too hot, so I got rid of it but love my new one.

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                    yfunk3 Dec 20, 2010 07:01 AM

                    Unfortunately, my cooker's pretty basic, and once it starts boiling, even turning it on warm keeps it cooking. I basically have to unplug it to avoid over-cooking. I'm too cheap to get a fancier slow cooker, though! :o)

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                    Bethcooks Dec 20, 2010 05:20 PM

                    About 2 and 1/2 hours. I agree that it seems to get quite hot but since my knowledge is limited to my slow cooker I don't know if it's typical or not.

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