Can the Vitamix knead/mix dough? If not, a good entry-level mixer for pizza dough?
Just wondering if anyone knows if the Vitamix 5200 can actually knead dough? I'm looking to make pizza dough in small quantities (enough for a 14" pie) in the next week and I'm hoping to not have to splurge another few hundred on a stand mixer if I don't have to. I have not made too many doughs before so I'm not sure what to expect from the Vitamix. Perhaps other chowhounders can comment?
I tried searching youtube and on Google and there are a surprisingly little amount of discussions on using blenders for kneading dough - maybe because it doesn't make sense??
Anyway, if I'm advised against even trying, perhaps someone can recommend what mixer to get? So far I have only found: http://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-K45S... ($144) and KitchenAid KV25GOXMC Professional 5 Plus 5-Quart Stand Mixer, Metallic Chrome ($319).
To add some more background as to what doughs I'd like to make:
Chapatti, naan, pizza dough, no-knead bread (just kidding), maybe once in ever few years brownies or something similar...
Thanks in advance for your help!
Sorry for jumping in here, but it just occurred to me (and don't laugh!) that I might be able to knead pizza dough myself?
I'm looking at the recipe here: http://www.pizzamaking.com/newyorksty...
I'm thrown off as these pizza dough recipes call for kneading the dough for a long time, "Allow mixer to knead the dough for a full 15 minutes at which time it should pass a windowpane test." I imagine the mixer does a more thorough job of kneading than hands and I guess I'm seeing this as translating 15 mins of mixer action into 30-45+ mins of hand action... or am I missing something??
There's no reason to knead pizza dough until it passes the windowpane test. There are lots of reasons not to. Unless you're making a dough you're going to use in an hour or two after mixing, you don't want the dough at it's peak gluten development then.
But you can certainly make pizza dough by hand. It shouldn't take more than ten minutes or so, for a reasonable quantity of dough. You just need to knead until it's reasonably smooth. I'd use the Tom Lehman style dough from pizzamaking.com to start with, and use the dough calculator there to figure out how much you'll need.
A vita mix will not work for dough (but it grinds grains into flour like a charm!).
A kitchenAid is terrific, but if I wouldn't buy one *just* for specialty bread making unless you have arthritis and need to make big batches- and can't just knead it by hand.
A cheaper, more efficient option might be to purchase a bread maker machine with a manual setting. I use mine all the time just to knead a quick single loaf of something. I don't actually *bake* in it, but its easier than the KitchenAid to pop on the counter, knead, clean and put away.
I have never kneaded a dough by hand for more than 15 minutes. You need a proper technique (I am sure u tube will show you). Hand kneading is relaxing and fun, and once you get the hang of it-into a rhythm- you can pull a large dough ball together , smooth and elastic in about 10 minutes or less. It can be fairly messy though...errrr...maybe that's just me. I tend to get flour all over myself and my kitchen when making dough by hand :)
If you can find a used bread machine (with dough cycle) in a thrift store, you'd be set for a very small outlay of cash. I've been doing ALL my doughs (bread, pasta, and pizza) in one for years and would never do it any other way.
You can if you really want. I mean, they have various bread recipes in the whole grain cookbook right? They even have a video showing how it can be done. But it is not the right tool to make dough. The shape of the cup and the blade is just wrong. Did you see how many times the guy had to scrape down the ingredients? They even had to fast forward the process to make it look less tedious.
Chapatti and naan dough don't really need kneading. My friend made it look all too easy by hand. And like the others said, pizza dough don't need kneading.
You may want to look into a hand mixer instead.