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Soup Dumplings (Xiao Long Bao) in metro-Detroit?

Going to be in Detroit Jan. 14-20. Is there anyplace that makes these Chinese soup dumplings I've been hearing about? Also a good Dim Sum place for Sunday morning?

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Bao's Restaurant
400 W Center St, Monticello, IL 61856

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  1. Where will you mostly be in Detroit (big Metro Area, and no one Chinese place here is worth traveling clear across town for, in any direction)?

    This place has some fans (and one or two detractors), but I don't think it will address your dumpling craving: http://honghuafinedining.com/hhr/Menu...

    There are some resonably recent threads on this Great Lakes board regarding dim sum. Just search. We don't have it great, but we have it better than most of America. Note--Detroit is RIGHT on the border with Windsor, Canada. You may want to bring your passport, because they have admirable Chinese food options there, too.

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    1. re: vtombrown

      I'll be based in Novi off I-696 & I-275 but I have no problem cruising anywhere for good eats.

      1. re: Iowaboy3

        That's PERFECT for the aforementioned Hong Hua. Nearby Shangrila has Sunday dim sum. Both are on Orchard Lake Rd. north of 696.
        This is a good thread--- http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6791...

        1. re: vtombrown

          Is Hong Hua really any good? I've driven by dozens of times and been told its "upscale" but that doesn't mean good in my book.

          Where on Orchard is Shangrila? Do they have soup dumplings or dim sum?

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          Hong Hua
          27925 Orchard Lake Rd, Farmington Hills, MI 48334

          Shangrila Restaurant
          1039 Century Dr, Edwardsville, IL 62025

          1. re: Iowaboy3

            My one experience with Hong Hua was enough to cause me not to return, but that's just my individual experience.

            Oh, and Shangri La is on Orchard Lake Road just north of Maple, in a shopping center. They do have dim sum, but the one time I tried it, I could not for the life of me understand what all the hoopla was about. I found it sort of eye-roll-inducing, but I have no "real" standard by which I can compare it to.

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            Hong Hua
            27925 Orchard Lake Rd, Farmington Hills, MI 48334

            1. re: Iowaboy3

              (edit--sorry i didn't realize Sir Boagman was simultaneously typing)
              Yes, Hong Hua is good. But, you of course are at possible risk of being disappointed if you go alone and can only afford/consume one dish. Bring coworkers so as to get a variety of options, if possible...

              Shangrila is several miles north of there. http://www.ordershangrila.com/contact...
              I've only had dim sum when there, and it was pretty decent, but not fantastic. (couple years ago) Hopefully G.L Chowhounds will chime-in here.

              To my knowledge, no place in this city serves the southeastern China version of a xaio long bao steamed dumpling having the soup on the inside of the big dumpling. Sorry.

              Anyway, welcome and good luck.

              1. re: Iowaboy3

                If you are overly concerned...take a pass. I lived near Hung Hua for over 9 years, ate there often and had many meals I enjoyed. But if the risk is too great...skip it.

                1. re: Tripper

                  Chia Shiang in Ann Arbor apparently used to hand make them, but last time I inquired there about them I was told they no longer did. A couple of other places ( including Best China in Canton) have them but there is nary any soup to be found inside of them.

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                  Chia Shiang
                  2016 Packard St, Ann Arbor, MI 48104

          2. re: vtombrown

            VTB makes a good point about Windsor. Unfortunately, since Wah Court closed recently, May Wah Inn is the only remaining dim sum joint in Windsor (that I know of). Still, May Wah Inn is pretty darn good. Not sure what days/times they serve dim sum -- probably weekend mornings-afternoons. They have xiao long bao, but I don't think the filling is the traditional aspic filling that melts into soup when steamed -- I think it's just a basic pork filling.

            Unless you're from a city/area that is severely lacking in the ethnic food department, I would strongly recommend against Hong Hua or Shangri-La, or any of the other so-called "dim sum" places in metro Detroit (on the US side of the border, that is). Overpriced, mushy, soggy, waterlogged (excessively-steamed) food -- very, very poor imitations of what real dim sum ought to be.

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            Hong Hua
            27925 Orchard Lake Rd, Farmington Hills, MI 48334

            1. re: jjspw

              Wah Court closed? I am now officially depressed, even though I hadn't been there in forever.

              I still say we need to investigate the mysterious dumpling shop/money laundering operation known as TJ's Shanghai Dumpling on John R and 11...if it's still there.

              1. re: oppsie

                OMG that's hilarious. I've seen that place. Have been meaning to drop by that place. Anybody wanna team up?

                I thought Wah court was overrated. It wasn't that much better, if at all, over Shangri-la's dimsum.

                Kim's Garden in Novi, has, IMHO, the best dimsum in SE-MI. Over Shangri-La, East Lake, and golden harvest. Any other places to check out?

                don

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                Kim's Garden
                26150 Novi Rd, Novi, MI 48375

                East Lake Restaurant
                5087 Rochester Rd, Troy, MI 48085

                1. re: donbui82

                  I'm in. I drove by last night. Still there, still never seen the "open" sign lit up, but I think I saw a lady inside during my slow roll past. 248-586-9588.

                  1. re: oppsie

                    OMG, I am pretty convinced "TJ's Shanghai Dumplings" is a front for some illegal operation. That place has had the turned-off "OPEN" sign, menus, chairs, decorations... for MONTHS!!! But it's never ever open. I've tried weekdays and weekends, all hours of the day. The place is NEVER OPEN!

                    I've called a few times, and have never had anyone pick up.

                    1. re: jjspw

                      Definitely closed on Sundays. I just got back from there.

                      1. re: jjspw

                        What's their number? 'cuz I peeked in the door. They have a menu, counter top and seats.

                        don

                  2. re: oppsie

                    The power of the internet has been once again exposed. TJ's is registered as JD Trading USA LLC (248) 586 9588 @ 27312 John R., Madison Hts, MI

                    We all had expectations of true Shanghai delicacies and oppsie rallied the troops for a discovery. Ultimately, we have an empty storefront with a sign. Motives unknown.

                    John R and Dequindre still offer many Asian offerings so we shall persevere.

                    The search for dim-sum and soup dumplings continues. But, TJ"s is off the list for sure.

                    1. re: goatgolfer

                      I don't know, can we really take it off the list? I swear I saw a human in there Friday night. The seats, the menu...there is still hope. Next time I see signs of life I'm going to go pound on the door, at which point I'll probably be foiled by my lack of Mandarin/Cantonese/whatever language they speak in there.

              2. Iowaboy3, I know this is not spot-on topic, but I suspect you are the kind of guy who would appreciate Ajishin Japanese Restaurant, in VERY nearby Novi. It is a noodle soup / sushi place, chock full of Japanese people. Tragically, they can't offer beer, so have a couple before you go, and then hustle-up a single seat at the sushi bar (takes time) for some noodle heaven. I would think jjspw would support this place, too; otherwise, I'll be disappointed, and question myself.

                PS--speaking of jjspw...tried Jade in Windsor, for dim sum? It's been a while for me but I have pretty good memories.

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                Ajishin
                42270 Grand River Ave, Novi, MI 48375

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                1. re: vtombrown

                  I fully endorse. The Noodles are perfect....make Matsuchan's noodles seem like .39 cent dehydrated noodles from Dollar General in comparison. Although I love the Matsuchan broth.

                  1. re: JanPrimus

                    Heh, JP and jjspw do not agree!!! :-P

                    I'm okay with Ajishin, but do not find their broth to be anything special. Matsuchan's broth, on the other hand, is spectacular. Noodle-wise, I think they're about the same--both use pre-packaged noodles.

                    I'm a lot more apt to go to eat at Matsuchan, because I cannot duplicate their tonkotsu and miso broths at home, whereas I can duplicate all of Ajishin's broths. And of course, the packaged noodles that both restaurants use can be found at One World Market, Noble Fish, E-Mart, etc.

                    Anyway, VTB, I haven't even heard of Jade in Windsor. Intrigued, though. Will definitely put it on my radar for next time I'm over there.

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                    Ajishin
                    42270 Grand River Ave, Novi, MI 48375

                    Noble Fish
                    45 E 14 Mile Rd, Clawson, MI 48017

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                  1. Thanks to all of you. I appreciate the input. I look forward to hitting town.

                    1. What happened to Project Xiao Long Bao? Radio silence?

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                      Bao's Restaurant
                      400 W Center St, Monticello, IL 61856

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                      1. re: oppsie

                        someone else will have to reply. I have been redacted twice on this topic all done with the best intentions.

                        1. re: goatgolfer

                          ugh, just email my username at g mail.

                          1. re: goatgolfer

                            So annoying how chow make it damn near impossible to organize meet-ups!

                            I took the liberty of creating a Detroit-area chow group on google:
                            http://groups.google.com/group/detroi...

                            Right now, it's set to "public", so anyone can join. Let's take the Project XLB discussion there!

                            1. re: jjspw

                              Thanks I just joined group and cannot wait for the Project XLB.

                              1. re: jjspw

                                Chinese new year starts 3 Feb but I will try to reach Raymond Wong again.

                            2. re: oppsie

                              An apology is due. Thanks everybody for all your input. Unfortunately we arrived later that Sunday morning than planned so plans were changed. I never got to pursue the Long Bao nor the dim sum. Hopefully in the fall when I return. Hope this info benefits someone though. I'll continue to follow the thread.

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                              Bao's Restaurant
                              400 W Center St, Monticello, IL 61856

                              1. re: Iowaboy3

                                We were wondering what happened to you. Join the Google group detroitchow and we will post the soup dumpling progress and outcome. I even told Mr. Wong someone was coming from Illinois. He wanted to know why??? ;-)