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May I have elegance and class with a side of funk please?

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Traffic Dec 9, 2010 07:57 PM

Winter break is on its way and people that are away at college will be home.
A couple of friends and I thought it would be fun to go into the city for dinner and such.
We know what we want.. thats about it. :-(

Its going to be on a Wednesday night.
Group of 8-11 20-23 year olds (boys and girls), we want to be able to dress up and such.
We're looking for a place that's upscale and groovy but not so over the top that we feel out of place.
We definitely want it to be more on the mellow side yet classy and fun. The actual type of food itself doesn't really matter. We are all about the ambiance!

After dinner we thought it would be awesome to do something else, but what?.
Our group isn't big on drinking, and I don't think we're really feeling "da club" scene.
Any ideas? Also what time is most appropriate for such activities?

All suggestions are appreciated!

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    Pan Dec 9, 2010 10:02 PM

    What's your price range? Any preferred location?

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      Traffic Dec 9, 2010 10:35 PM

      Something reasonable.
      I hear the l.e.s. is where its at, but I honestly have no idea. :-(

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        Pan Dec 9, 2010 11:10 PM

        Uh, what's "reasonable" to you? I may not be able to give you a helpful recommendation, but if you don't know how much you are willing to spend, you have a very low chance of getting one.

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          Traffic Dec 10, 2010 08:20 AM

          50-under would be ideal.

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            Pan Dec 10, 2010 12:20 PM

            Momofuku Ssam Bar is classy and fun, though pretty informal. It does feel like a bar, though, and it may stretch your budget a bit. It's funky and cool, though, and has enough variety of food to please most people, I would think.

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            Momofuku Ssam Bar
            207 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

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              sgordon Dec 10, 2010 12:35 PM

              ...but do note, there's very little chance of a group of 8-11 people getting in Ssam Bar without an hour+ wait, unless they were to pre-order the Bo Ssam.

              I would say OP should get a firm number in order, then search Opentable for open reservations on the night in question.

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                Pan Dec 10, 2010 12:49 PM

                Yeah, very good point. But where in the neighborhood would that large a group get in without a long wait? I agree that reservations are a must, unless they don't mind just hanging out for up to 2 hours.

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                  pork_buns Dec 11, 2010 06:03 AM

                  the Bo SSam is a good idea. would they have a better chance at Momofuku Noodle Bar, or are the waits as long? the food in just as good IMHO.

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                  Momofuku Noodle Bar
                  171 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

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                    kathryn Dec 11, 2010 07:00 AM

                    They'll have a worse chance at Momofuku Noodle Bar because the tables seat 8 people max. And it's a bit more popular than Ssam Bar, because it's a bit cheaper.

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                    Momofuku Noodle Bar
                    171 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

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            Jane A. Dec 10, 2010 05:06 AM

            Please try to come up with a per person amount that you consider "reasonable". Remember that there is an almost 9% tax plus appropriate 18-20% tip. So how much are you willing to spend per person, out the door?

            Also, do you consider "dressing up" to be suits and dresses, or just not blue jeans?

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              Traffic Dec 10, 2010 08:11 AM

              50-under per head.
              "Dressing up" as no sneaks nor blue jeans.
              For the boys, probably dress pants and sweater vest a like.
              As for girls, possibly dresses and skirts.

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                kathryn Dec 10, 2010 08:34 AM

                So $39 for food and drink, before tax, and tip.

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                  Traffic Dec 10, 2010 09:06 AM

                  Right on!

        2. sgordon Dec 10, 2010 05:32 AM

          What everyone else said about price range.

          Also, for a group that large, you might be better off making a reservation. Even on a Wednesday night, you might find yourself split into different tables across the restaurant from one another.

          As to after dinner - "where it's at" is relative. If you're not drinkers, the LES might not be for you. It's a bar-hopping scene. There wouldn't be much to do outside of that. In fact, that's basically what nightlife consists of in the city - bars or "da clubs" - so if you're not doing that, I don't what to recommend really. I think for those of us not into (or too old for) the bar / club scenes, dinner itself is the night out. You could go see some music or something, but it'd be in a bar.

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            Traffic Dec 10, 2010 08:19 AM

            50-under per-head would be ideal.
            haha, as for "where its at" i suppose i was more just hoping everyone else would throw out what they would normally do. Music at a bar sounds like a blast; we may not be big on drinking but that doesnt mean we consider all bars voodoo. :-p The question would be though, being that some of us are under age would we be able to get into a bar? I'm sorry if some of my questions/answers are a bit vague, I am new with the whole forum posting.

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              Nancy S. Dec 10, 2010 08:33 AM

              Mayahuel, PTD, Death & Co., etc. will not let anyone underage in.

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              Mayahuel
              304 E 6th St, New York, NY 10003

              1. re: Nancy S.
                sgordon Dec 10, 2010 10:30 AM

                If they're not out to drink, there's no reason to go to a cocktail bar.

                But they should assume that no bar will let them in. No point setting them up for disappointment.

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            AYSConsulting Dec 10, 2010 06:31 AM

            Something reasonable in terms of price range, accomodating larger parties and where you can dess up or down I'd recommend Otto. It's a 'Batali Bastianich' venture, the pizzas and food are pretty good, and not too expensive. Service gets a little dicey there and is pretty hit more miss, but still worth looking into.

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            Otto
            1 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10003

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              Rich D. Dec 10, 2010 08:22 AM

              How about Stanton Social.

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              Stanton Social
              99 Stanton Street, New York, NY 10002

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              JC2 Dec 10, 2010 12:09 PM

              What about Buddakan? You could be seated at the big table downstairs and if you were very careful about ordering - and ordered family style - you might be able to do it for under $50 pp. It is a bit of a scene so it might be fun.

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              Buddakan
              75 9th Ave, New York, NY 10011

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                Traffic Dec 11, 2010 12:09 AM

                I really appreciate everyone taking the time out to give feed back;
                you guys were very helpful!

                Feel free to keep the suggestions coming.

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                  pork_buns Dec 11, 2010 06:07 AM

                  Buddakan's a good idea, esp if you can arrange with the restaurant to offer a custom menu for under $40 per head. A surprising number of restaurants will do that for you.

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                  Buddakan
                  75 9th Ave, New York, NY 10011

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                  SpiceJunkies Dec 11, 2010 05:43 AM

                  You could look at Redhead in the East Village. I have a amazing meal there a few months back. Way less trendy, but tasty a loads of fun would be Congee Village on the Bowery. I love their cheap throwback cocktails.

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                  Congee Village
                  100 Allen St, New York, NY 10002

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                    kathryn Dec 11, 2010 07:03 AM

                    The Redhead only takes big groups before 6:30pm. It's such a small restaurant, I am not sure how they would accommodate 11 people. Also the atmosphere is not really "elegant" and "classy," the OP's party would be overdressed compared to everybody else there.

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