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meegc Dec 6, 2010 03:16 PM

Where to buy steak

I am looking to purchase prime bone-in ribeye steak for someone on my Christmas list. I have heard terrible reviews of Omaha Steaks and mediocre reviews of Kansas City Steak Co.

Can anyone recommend a place where I can buy quality prime bone-in ribeye steak in the Boston area? I don't really know much about shopping for steak, but would prefer to buy something from a local place than mail order it from one of the online steak companies. If it makes any difference, I don't need it to be shipped anywhere (if I mail order, I'm shipping it to myself and then dropping it off on xmas day). It definitely needs to be USDA prime, though.

I live on the south shore and have Roxie's and Hilltop Butcher Shop nearby... are either of those worth buying from? Or are there any other places you recommend in the greater Boston area (I'm willing to drive!)?

Thanks!

  1. Delhiwala Dec 17, 2010 06:35 AM

    I agree with the suggestions so far. Whatever you do, do not go to Roxie's or the Hilltop Butcher Shop.
    I am not sure that you really want the steaks to be bone-in, versus boneless, but I leave that up to you.

    1. ecwashere7 Dec 9, 2010 05:39 AM

      I think Dewar's or Savenor's is your best bet for bone-in rib-eye. If I had to choose between dry-aged and grass-fed, I'd take the grass-fed. It does require a different approach when cooking it (grass-fed can be lean), so if your recipient isn't familiar with it I'd focus on the dry-aged.

      1. C. Hamster Dec 8, 2010 07:15 AM

        Julia Child bought her meat at Costco.

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          9lives Dec 8, 2010 08:17 AM

          I know she occassionally ate Costco hot dogs but that still doesn't make Costco a local store.

          Julia Child was far better known for being a regular customer at Savenor's on Kirkland; first from Jack and then his son Ron.

          http://www.savenorsmarket.com/site/ab...

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            itaunas Dec 8, 2010 09:29 AM

            Although you are skipping the 10-15 years where they didn't reopen the Kirkland store (just a liquor store) and focused on Beacon Hill. Obviously the relationship between Julia and Jack is that of legends, but today's Savenor's really pushes the association with her name to ridiculous proportions. They have a claim to it unlike the many "Julia Child's favorite restaurant," but there are other neighborhood markets in Cambridge that she did support which haven't pushed her name. Evergood and Fresh Pond (which has an excellent butcher) come to mind.

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              PinchOfSalt Dec 8, 2010 10:15 AM

              Heck, once I saw her at the Fresh Pond Bread and Circus. Everyone studiously did not notice her. I happened to be in the produce area when she was there too, picking out grapes. Then she showed up at the checkout while I was waiting on line. Her cart was fairly full but she got on one of the x-items-or-less lines and nobody had the nerve to say a word!

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                9lives Dec 8, 2010 12:41 PM

                I saw Jula Child once on Newbury and once at Locke Ober. She definitely turned heads. What struck me was how physically large she was. I think she's somewhat over 6 feet tall

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                  9lives Dec 8, 2010 12:46 PM

                  you're right but sometime the perception of a good relationship is as or more important than the reality; so maybe Savenor's did a good job of capitalizing on her patronage. I'm sure Julia Child shopped at lots of places that most people are unaware of.

                  Costco and Child never cultivated a relationship that might have benefited either and certainly not Costco.

                  A similar thing went on for a short time with Martha Stewart and Kmart. hoped and probablid paid plenty in the hopes that a little of MS glamour would rub off...didn't and cheapened Stewart's.

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                    BobB Dec 9, 2010 06:07 AM

                    Another place Julia shopped at with some regularity was the Somerville Market Basket, mainly for fresh goat and other ethnic cooking specialties.

            2. Luther Dec 7, 2010 04:54 AM

              I know you require prime (and perhaps aged) so this doesn't actually help you, but just to add to the thread for future readers, if you call ahead to Blood Farm you can get a fresh-not-frozen steak for near-supermarket prices that will challenge any of the expensive stuff in the flavor category.

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                Smokee Dec 8, 2010 04:44 AM

                Another vote for Kinnealy's at the fruit center. It's probably a good idea to know exactly what you want when you go there. I often find that the guys behind the counter are pretty much high school kids. Very helpful high school kids, but they sometimes have to call for help for more than basic questions.

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                  C. Hamster Dec 8, 2010 07:16 AM

                  I think Kinnealy's is too pricey for what you get.

                  I have had good success with the Irish buther in Adams Village.

              2. typhoonfish Dec 7, 2010 04:29 AM

                I've done well with Allen Brother's but it's ridiculously priced.

                Kinneally's at the Fruit Center in Milton is good. Also for the price Whole Foods Dry Aged Rib Eye is pretty good.

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                  dtremit Dec 7, 2010 12:12 AM

                  The best steak I've ever cooked was a Vermont-raised, grass-fed ribeye I bought at Savenor's (the Cambridge location, if it matters).

                  1. dmullin699 Dec 6, 2010 07:10 PM

                    Costco's in Avon is a great bet.
                    They also have a great wine selction for a "warehouse" operation.
                    Kinneally's in Milton is another option.

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                      treb Dec 6, 2010 05:15 PM

                      Costco carries USDA Prime bone-in standing rib roast during the holiday season.

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                        Spike Dec 6, 2010 06:11 PM

                        Ditto Costco. Or find some grass fed steaks from local farms...

                        You can also hit Dewars for aged prime but it sure gets small when it's dry aged :-P

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                          cambridgedoctpr Dec 6, 2010 06:18 PM

                          both cooks illustrated and barbara tropp say that you can dry age your beef at home.

                          I do.

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                            Spike Dec 6, 2010 06:51 PM

                            I've done this as well using the cheesecloth in fridge for a few days technique. Seems to upgrade the taste one level (i.e., Choice tastes like Prime...or makes ribeye taste like NY strip).

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                              FoodDabbler Dec 6, 2010 07:41 PM

                              What method do you use?

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                                9lives Dec 7, 2010 01:31 AM

                                I've dry aged at home also..contributed to this WSJ article with some general tips, cleanliness, keeping out outside odors and keeping the meat at slightly cooler temps than a reg fridge. it's been argued all over these boards, but I've only had 1 miscue over many tries..because of a fridge that was opened too often.

                                http://online.wsj.com/article/SB11892...

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                                  treb Dec 7, 2010 02:44 PM

                                  I've dry aged a standing rib roast for 7 days, came out excellent.

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                                meegc Dec 7, 2010 09:45 AM

                                Interesting, I wouldn't have thought of Costco as a place to buy steak. Someone below mentions the Avon location, which is pretty close to me- I'll have to stop in and see what they've got! Thanks!

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                                  Ralphie_in_Boston Dec 7, 2010 10:06 AM

                                  Yes Costco gets good ratings for beef. overall good prices too. The only catch is that being a wholesale club the minimum purchase is large. So a big appetite, large family or room-in-the-freezer is in order!

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                                    treb Dec 7, 2010 02:47 PM

                                    Costco has excellent beef, I find the packaging to be reasonable, ex; boneless rib eye in packages of 2, NY strips in packages of 3 or 4. Prime Rib Roasts are around 5 lbs.

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                                      9lives Dec 8, 2010 03:34 AM

                                      Keep in mind that a "prime rib roast" is not necessarily USDA graded prime beef. Nor ris a prime rib that you might order in a restaurant.

                                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing...

                                      That's not to say that Costco doesn't sell good meat but there is a distinction..Most "prime ribs" come from USDA choice grade. I prefer the smaller end of the roast;because I rarely cook an entire rib roast. Ask the butcher to show you the difference.

                                      To get back to the OP question, I don't think it's a great idea for him to dry age his own prime meats and individually pack them (have a vacuum packer?) and deliver to is friends. I dry aged lot of steaks before i served them to friends and without a vacuum packer, you're playing Russian Roulette with the meat.

                                      For more experienced people, I see no problem with buying a Costco (prime) rib roast or Sirloin roast and dry aging. Consume after 5-10 days and then cut into bone in rib steaks, vacuum pack and freeze.

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                                        PinchOfSalt Dec 8, 2010 04:40 AM

                                        Just to try to be clear, Costco really does sell meat that is USDA graded "prime". So it is entirely possible that they have USDA prime rib roasts for sale in addition to USDA choice rib roasts (their usual grade). However, as you say, somehow the adjective "prime" has gotten attached to rib roast labels regardless of the actual USDA grade.

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                                          9lives Dec 8, 2010 04:57 AM

                                          Agreed. Costco does sell USDA Prime

                                          I'll also point out that the OP specificaly wanted to support local butchers and Costco hardly qualifies.

                                          Look, I have no "beef" with Costco except
                                          there aren't any in downtown Boston and I have a very hard time getting to 1..:)

                                          I'm visiting family out of townand they have these club superstores nearby and they serve a great purpose. I love shopping in them.

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                                          treb Dec 8, 2010 06:01 AM

                                          Yah, I know exactly what you're saying, techincally it can be called a 'standing rib roast'. You're also correct, most are USDA Choice which, IMO, is excellent for this type of application, tender and juicey if cooked correctly. The thing I prefer about USDA Prime is that, I like the 'small loin end' and the prime grade usually has a bigger mussle for that cut. Costco does carry USDA Prime standing rib roasts during the holiday season and many other USDA Prime cuts in roasts and steaks year-round.

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                                            Gabatta Dec 17, 2010 05:40 AM

                                            At the Costco in Everett yesterday they had boneless USDA Prime grade beef ribeye roasts available for $13.99/lb. The only roasts with the ribs were USDA Choice.

                                            When buying a rib roast, I normally ask the butcher to lift the bones (River Rock, Savenors and Fresh Pond Market have accommodated this request in the past). I wonder if the Costco butcher departments would be able and willing to do this for their rib roasts.

                                            Wilson Farm is offering Brandt Beef roasts for the holidays as well. I am not sure of the price.

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                                            Fresh Pond Market
                                            360 Huron Ave, B Cambridge, MA

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                                          smtucker Dec 7, 2010 07:59 PM

                                          Today, the Everett branch had prime three bone rib roasts. The smallest choice roasts were five bone.

                                      2. tatsu Dec 6, 2010 04:39 PM

                                        I would go to Argentina or Japan, but I'm a vegetarian.

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                                          teezeetoo Dec 6, 2010 04:54 PM

                                          The Meat House in Coolidge Corner has aged prime. Call ahead.

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                                          9lives Dec 6, 2010 04:19 PM

                                          Both good ideas. I like River Rock but I'm not sure they're rated prime (it's a voluntary USDA rating)..grass fed and tasty. I'd add Savenor's to your list. Both choice and prime can be dry aged..avoid wet aged.

                                          As to having it shipped to you and then you deliver; I think it's a major mistake. If we have a warm day or something should go wrong..and you can't make delivery, you're on the hook. Leave the shipping to the pros. They're better at it, pack it properly and if there's a mistake, it's Savenors or Dewars problem and not yours.

                                          All of these vendors will make good if there is a problem,

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                                            joshekg Dec 6, 2010 03:27 PM

                                            I've had some great beef from River Rock Farm. I picked it up in Cambridge. This was about 7 years ago, so I can't comment on if they are maintaining their standards or if it is available for pickup in Cambridge anymore.

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                                            River Rock Farm
                                            81 Five Bridge Rd, Brimfield, MA

                                            1. GretchenS Dec 6, 2010 03:21 PM

                                              Call John Dewars Butchers in Newton Center and tell them what you want -- they can get it for sure. They may advise you to go with dry-aged (not sure if it's prime or not but it's to die for) -- I always take their advice, they really know what they are doing. IMO they have the best meat available in the Greater Boston area, and extremely helpful and nice as well.

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