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Vegetarian Muffulettas?

erikschwarz Dec 6, 2010 12:53 PM

Who makes a good vegetarian muffuletta? (I realize there are many variants, but I am going with the Central Grocery orthography.) Central Grocery makes a pretty decent veggie muff, I think, but there are others out there. One of the local publications - maybe Gambit or New Orleans Magazine - ran a column on this a year or more ago, but I foolishly did not clip and save.

 
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  1. suziemcw RE: erikschwarz Dec 6, 2010 08:29 PM

    Oops, sorry for the post, jumped into the wrong forum.

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      mimadeli RE: suziemcw Dec 7, 2010 04:03 AM

      Never heard of a vegetarian muffeletta. The whole point of the muffeletta is to showcase the meats - salami, mortadella and whatever else the sandwich maker puts on it.

      Central grocery does not make mufflettas to order. They make one sandwich and you get either a half or a whole one and you can buy a bag of chips and a drink to go with it.

      Now there might be other delis that can make an olive salad/provolone sandwich on italian bread, but I doubt that would still be considered a muffeletta. Maybe Stein's Deli on Magazine?

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        Shiloh RE: mimadeli Dec 7, 2010 07:12 AM

        central will make one with the meats omitted if you ask. i wouldn't order it but i've seen it done.

    2. erikschwarz RE: erikschwarz Dec 7, 2010 01:17 PM

      What defines a muffuletta is the bread. For a vegetarian, the whole point of the sandwich could hardly be the meats: it would be the mufuletta bread, the olive salad, the emmentaler and provolone and/or other cheeses and whatever else the maker includes. Shiloh is correct in stating that Central Grocery will make a veggie muff. My question is who else does so? Stein's is a possibility, but an offbeat one. Their menu includes a "Muphuletta (Philly Style)" that is made with ciabatta bread.

       
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        Shiloh RE: erikschwarz Dec 7, 2010 02:20 PM

        if you don't have any luck with this query, what i would do if i were you is find who makes the best muffalettas and simply ask for one with no meat. for me, that's central grocery above all else. i've also had a very good one at nor-joe's in old metairie. the frenchuletta at liuzza's on bienville is another favorite of mine, and i'm sure it would also be excellent without meat. my point is that every place that sells a muff sells a veg muff. you just have to ask them for it. good luck!

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          Edward Tyson RE: Shiloh Dec 7, 2010 09:38 PM

          I'm sorry but a vegetarian muffulletta is like a virgin bloody mary. The olive salad playing against the cured meats is the essence of the muffuletta. You can have a virgin bloody mary but what's the point. Bread, olive salad, and cheese are not a muffuletta.

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            Shiloh RE: Edward Tyson Dec 8, 2010 06:15 AM

            still could be tasty though. i was thinking about liuzza's frenchuletta, which is heated to the point that the cheese melts. What's not to love about olive salad on toasted french bread soaked in olive oil, dripping with melted cheese. If it doesn't measure up to a muffaletta, don't call it a muffaletta.

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              CharlieH RE: Shiloh Dec 8, 2010 06:46 AM

              NorJoe's used to do a white a muff, with sliced chicken breast and they served it hot. It was outstanding.

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              erikschwarz RE: Edward Tyson Dec 8, 2010 08:36 AM

              Sorry, but the essence and in fact definition of "muffuletta" is the bread. You can look it up. As for the Bloody Virgin, it does not really buttress your argument. Vodka is among the most flavorless of spirits, so the difference in taste between the alcoholic and non-alcoholic versions of the drink is minimized. A brandy-less Milk Punch or a Sazerac sans rye would be a better analogy.

              Some people have compelling reasons to abstain from meat and/or alcohol, just as others feel compelled to partake of same. I think the chowhounding spirit is to be supportive or at least accepting of each others' choices and to enhance our enjoyment of life by exchanging helpful information and discussing topics of mutual interest.

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            mimadeli RE: erikschwarz Dec 11, 2010 08:23 AM

            All the recent talk of muffalettas, and I just went to Nor-Joe's to get one. The muffaletta was warmed, the cheese melted, and the bread thick and fresh, made nice and spongy from the olive salad. It was delicious.

            So I looked up muffaletta and yes the bread from Sicily is called a muffaletta - a round sesame bread. However in the Wikipedia article there was a reference to a story about the origins of the New Orleans muffaletta, as follows:

            "One of the most interesting aspects of my father's grocery is his unique creation, the muffuletta sandwich. The muffuletta was created in the early 1900's when the Farmers' Market was in the same area as the grocery. Most of the farmers who sold their produce there were Sicilian. Every day they used to come of my father's grocery for lunch. They would order some salami, some ham, a piece of cheese, a little olive salad, and either long braided Italian bread or round muffuletta bread. In typical Sicilian fashion they ate everything separately. The farmers used to sit on crates or barrels and try to eat while precariously balancing their small trays covered with food on their knees. My father suggested that it would be easier for the farmers if he cut the bread and put everything on it like a sandwich; even if it was not typical Sicilian fashion. He experimented and found that the thicker, braided Italian bread was too hard to bite but the softer round muffuletta was ideal for his sandwich. In very little time, the farmers came to merely ask for a "muffuletta" for their lunch."

            Here is the link

            http://whatscookingamerica.net/Histor...

            So yes, in your context, the bread is the muffaletta. However we must agree to disagree in the context of the New Orleans muffaletta which is defined by the combination of salami, ham, cheese, olive salad and Italian bread.

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            Nor-Joe Importing Co
            505 Frisco Ave, Metairie, LA

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              erikschwarz RE: mimadeli Dec 12, 2010 01:26 PM

              I am familiar with the text above, in which Marie Lupo Tusa describes the origins of the sandwich at her family's Central Grocery. Marie does not say that vegetarian versions are not muffulettas, and the fact that the Central Grocery offers them is evidence against your contention to the contrary. Not sure why you are so bent on denying that kukubura, Susy Wong, suziemcw and the rest of us are partaking of muffulettas. Please enjoy yours with meat and leave us enjoy ours without.

               
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                kukubura RE: erikschwarz Dec 12, 2010 01:44 PM

                Here's the deal: If you walked into a place and said "gimme a muffaletta" they would hand you a sandwich with meat. Plain and simple. However, if you said "gimme a meatless muffaletta" as some of us have done they would hand you a sandwich without meat. Might not be the typical traditional version, but it's clearly something that enough people want that I believe it's even up on the sign at Central.

                Heck, if you asked for a cheeseless muffaletta (if you were seriously lactose intolerant) or olive saladless muffaletta (if you had no soul) then they would surely provide you with those alterations as well.

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                  erikschwarz RE: kukubura Dec 12, 2010 01:48 PM

                  "if you had no soul": LOL. My partner, a native New Orleanian, does not care for olives. Which leaves more for me!

          3. erikschwarz RE: erikschwarz Dec 8, 2010 08:38 AM

            The above was meant to be a reply particular to Mr. Tyson. Thanks to all for the tips and suggestions. Looks as though some muff exploration is in order!

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              N.O.Food RE: erikschwarz Dec 8, 2010 07:35 PM

              that's what he said!

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                mrsfury RE: N.O.Food Dec 9, 2010 05:54 AM

                LOL

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              chefairline RE: erikschwarz Dec 9, 2010 12:04 PM

              At a special request on a catering order, I made vegetarian muffulettas. They consisted of grilled portabella (which acts as a great meat substitute), grilled onions and tri-colored peppers along with the usual provolone cheese and olive salad mix. The grilled items were allowed to get back to room temperature before assembling. I was told that they were a big hit at the party.

              I have considered putting them on my regular menu.

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                erikschwarz RE: chefairline Dec 9, 2010 01:31 PM

                My hat is off to you, chefairline, for what sounds like a delicious sandwich. My only cavil: I belong to a portabella hate group. I enjoy every other kind of mushroom though - excepting poisonous toadstools, which should be reserved for special occasions - and I suppose various mushrooms could be substituted for portabellas.

                 
              2. kukubura RE: erikschwarz Dec 10, 2010 02:47 PM

                Have had this at both Central and Napoleon House and I think Napoleon wins in this case. The warmth of the cheese enhanced the fattiness that was lacking by the missing meat. A damn fine sandwich.

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                500 Chartres St, New Orleans, LA 70130

                1. Suzy Wong RE: erikschwarz Dec 11, 2010 05:41 AM

                  I don't eat land animals, so I totally understand. In my life I have had them both ways and honestly, I like it better with the olive salad, cheese and bread. Most if not all places will make it without the meat for you. You may try Maspero's on Decatur as well (NOT the one on Chartres).

                  Of course if you don't eat cheese, it would be olive salad and bread, but that's not bad either....

                  Mushrooms are a great substitute for meat, but have nothing to do with a muffaletta in my opinion. That would be a grilled vegetable po boy.

                  If you make your own, Dorignac's has excellent Italian bread....

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                  Maspero's
                  601 Decatur St, New Orleans, LA 70130

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                    suziemcw RE: Suzy Wong Dec 11, 2010 08:17 PM

                    I have to second Suzy's choice...Maspero's has a delicious veggie muffaletta. The bread is fantastic, the olive salad yummy, melted cheese, man I wish I was in New Orleans this month. Honestly, I prefer it to the muffaletta with meat.

                  2. erikschwarz RE: erikschwarz Dec 12, 2010 01:40 PM

                    Susy Wong, kukabura and suziemcw, thanks for the reports. Btw, I love cheese. As for mushrooms, I am open to chefairline's use of them in muffulettas. Let us not insist that only deletions can be made from the traditional muffuletta but rather entertain innovative substitutions or additions.

                     
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