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A-Frame - Roy is still keepin' it real.

Hearing about Roy Choi's newest venture a couple of months back, I was very curious about A-Frame. Only fortifying this was always-reliable poster yogachick's initial post about A-Frame:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7456...

Not wanting to high-jack this initial thread which is already building up some steam, and with me always having my usual blah-blah-itis, I thought it best to start another post. My impression is based on our first and only visit, so please understand that I'm not an authority on this place. But at the same time, I was impressed enough that when I started to post about my thoughts, I just kept tapping the keyboard until I had far too much for just a typical post in response. I know there are those who feel Roy Choi is riding a wave of hype. I initially thought that as well when Kogi started to become too popular for anybody's good, but I am not ashamed to admit that I now feel that I was wrong.

We dropped by A-Frame last night and truly enjoyed our visit. I think it's a soon-to-be classic because of its 21st Century redefining of Bohemian style when thinking about chow. Like Kogi and Chego, A-Frame has no single reference point - one senses that it's more like a collection of reference points that Roy Choi has pulled together through chapters in his life. I’m guessing that Roy Choi’s various ventures are a result of coursing through his timeline post-70s, breathing in huge breaths of LA's neighborhoods and beyond, and coming back like a modern day Marco Polo or Monet. His food does the storytelling. Using Kogi as a beginning in the evolutionary process, I get the sense that each successive venture gives added momentum to allow Roy to express his creativity on a larger canvas, and extending his medium from charcoal to pencil to brush. The environment is well thought out - kudos to Roy and Sean Knibb's design group for considering practically every aspect of this space in three dimensions: taking a former IHOP and converting it into a working piece of art. The spaces are laid back, visually stimulating, and with a strong emphasis on no pretense - just like his food. My only quibble is that the acoustics inside are a bit harsh as the crowd starts to pick up.

And crowded it was. We arrived between 5-6PM, and the place was already two-thirds full. The night was starting to cool off, but we still decided to sit outside. Between the space heaters, the fire pit, and the plush comforters that A-Frame offers its guests (they are very plush - take care in not knocking over glasses on the table like we did when attempting to tuck the comforter under the table), the outside space was quite nice - I can't wait for summer. The only outdoor issue for me is the traffic noise on Washington. The setback from the street is minimal, so traffic noise can be a distraction. I have my own ideas of how to mitigate this but good company fortified by great food and drink tends to trump the traffic issue.

The drink menu is a very well thought out list of beers on tap, wines, mixed drinks, conventional as well as unique non-alcohol drinks, even teas and ca phe sua da - something unique and enjoyable literally for everyone. I’m not much into mixology but many of the listed drinks might change my mind, and the punch bowls were popular on many tables. I do enjoy wine, and am biting at the bit to try these selections, but I've been on a stout kick for the past few months, ever since having a revelatory experience with a properly poured pint of Russian River Imperial Stout at burger. in Santa Cruz. A-Frame unfortunately currently can't source this king of stouts, but IMHO, the Ten Fidy on tap was a perfect substitute (any chance we’ll see a malted ice cream/stout sundae on the horizon?). And to round out just their choice of darker beers, a lighter oatmeal stout, and a black IPA ale are on tap. My son has been drinking a lot green tea lately, and ordered their offering, which was a blend of green tea and Earl Grey - Earl Green. This is just one of many manifestations of Team Roy. There's a strong backbone of nonconformity in the Houses (and trucks) of Roy, but honestly, I for one am thankful for this.

The staff here is like Chego - young, lots of bridled energy, happy, eager to please and offer suggestions on ordering and what to order, all girdled in a ring of niceness. I've met nothing but incredibly cordial folks at both Chego and now A-Frame. Everyone from the hostess to our server, the barkeep and the bussing staff are incredibly pleasant and inviting. I think each of the staff at A-Frame must come with some sort of stamped diploma reading, “Certified Genuinely Nice Person to All Guests.” For those who feel they have a gripe with past experiences at Father's Office, I'd consider the folks here to be their antithesis.

Tapas/izakaya-style of eating has become popular around LA, and while the Spanish and Japanese tend to consider these types of places as way stations when eating in this style, one gains the sense that A-Frame is very inviting - stay as long as you like. The food pairs well with drinks, and ordering dishes here in succession is encouraged. The furikake kettle corn has been mentioned a lot – we ordered it and while we did like it, I’d recommend ordering this first and by itself. Reason being, it needs be eaten first and foremost because of its nature. It’s nibbling food meant for sharing while socializing with drinks; its half-life is short because of the butter (I’d find it more appealing if it were more light-handed on the butter); and one can quickly lose interest when the other more substantial food starts to show up. The mix of popped and puffed corn is interesting, and the furikake and chile flakes adds a lot of dimension, but still – take this one down first and by itself. It’s a very good starter that doesn’t take up too much room, which is important – the menu is full of other interesting items that one most likely will want to pursue.

The heirloom pickles ended up being the center of the universe for our table. The menu’s description is too brief and vague to fully appreciate its role and deliciousness. I’ve found that Roy’s palate tends to favor layering flavor-forwardness with richness. I’ve often found myself at Chego wanting something to counter this, and the pickled veggies and fruit perfectly play this role at A-Frame. The pickling of the Farmers Market produce is very subtle. A carrot still has the character of a carrot, a cucumber still resembles its former self, and the shy perfume of an Asian pear is elevated by the process. But the slight acidity and freshness of the pickling takes each piece of produce to another level, and goes perfectly with the other more frank dishes. I personally consider this item a must for future meals here.

We ordered the blue crab cakes without reading the description – we love crab cakes. The crab cakes are set in a sauce of crème fraiche with lemongrass and ginger, and the accompanying red leaf lettuce and baby perilla (Korean equivalent of shiso) are used to wrap pieces of the crab cake. If it were I who had created this at home instead of Roy for A-Frame, I could probably claim that I was the only person in the world at that given moment who was eating that combination of ingredients. It is a unique way of eating crab cakes, and it does work.

Like others, the barbequed lamb chops were one of the most favored items at our table. The chops are just lamby, the puree of salsa verde adds flavor but isn’t overpowering, and the citrus gremolata adds another spark of flavors and umami to an already outstanding dish. I usually like my chops medium-rare. I completely forgot to ask for this and ended up with it grilled medium – still very good.

The bittersweet tempura is a platter-sized portion of battered and deep-fried broccoli rabe that is topped with chips of kabocha, and a dipping sauce reminiscent of ponzu. While the leaves of broccoli rabe were somewhat oily, I couldn’t stop reaching for these. The slight bitterness combined with the dipping sauce hit a sweet spot on my palate. Washed down with some stout, this became a repetitive process. The kabocha chips actually were fine on their own – they were perfectly fried and sweet.

The carne asada torta reminded me most of Chego. If you like Chego’s rice bowls, the same will apply for the torta. The flavor ranges are similar, and the side of house pickles were of the same variety that we got earlier. This combination of rich strong substantial flavors combined with the somewhat soothing mild acidity of the pickles results in a nice balance. The torta’s salsa roja is on the spicy side – more heat-sensitive palates might consider this.

The Kitchen Fries are anything but conventional fries. Huge wedges of various sweet potatoes that have been deep-fried and finished with sea salt. The kim chee dipping sauce wasn’t overpowering on my palate but I seemed to prefer eating these straight up. I enjoy the natural sweetness of the potatoes.

Chu-Don’t-Know-Mang is a great way to cap off eating at A-Frame – if you still have room. Our diminutive daughter who was for the most part keeping up with our eating seemed stuffed by the time the last dish arrived. We were ready to punch out when she asked, “What’s for dessert?” I guess it was her Diet Coke, no? Anyway, this churro-esque dessert is another one of those results where ships passing in the night collide. One ship was carrying a load of pound cake, another had a deep-fryer going, while the third ship had a fully stocked ice cream bar. Four thumb-sized “sticks” of deep-fried pound cake coated in cinnamon sugar and served with a glass of vanilla ice cream finished with malted chocolate milk is a combination that I’m surprised hasn’t been offered yet in some similar iteration at the local County Fair. It’s not diet food – that’s obvious, but sharing it four ways seems to appease at least a little bit of the guilt – just a little.

A-Frame is practically next door neighbors with Waterloo & City on Washington. Their address is 12565 Washington Blvd in the part of LA that is actually Culver City - confusing I know. They're currently only open from 6PM every day, but I have the feeling that Roy might finally knuckle under and actually become less of a night owl. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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A-Frame
12565 Washington Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90066, USA

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  1. Great write up, bula. I don't think I'll get my wife here, but I aim to live vicariously through you and yogachick and other posters. If I told her we were going to be eating kettle corn with furikake on top she would probably brain me with a frying pan.

    And I am certain that Mar Vista gets the honor of claiming A-Frame as one of its new restaurants (along with Waterloo & City) instead of Culver City. Hey, CC has enough new places on their ledger!

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    A-Frame
    12565 Washington Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90066, USA

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    1. re: Servorg

      >>...she would probably brain me with a frying pan.<<

      I'm glad someone's keeping you in line. :) I hope your wife changes her mind about going. This general area needed a laid-back gastro-pubbish kinda place. It's not Father's Office, but a nice addition to that general category and IMHO easier to navigate.

    2. I've been back many times and it's consistently good. I agree about the over-buttered kettle corn. When I first had it, it wasn't as doused.

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      1. re: yogachik

        Our family thoroughly enjoyed this place and hope to go soon and often. Which mixed drinks were standouts for you?

      2. Good review .I love the place.I was eating at the bar last week and Roy told me last Monday was his last day cooking at A-Frame

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        A-Frame
        12565 Washington Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90066, USA

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        1. re: melangeinc

          I saw him there Saturday night - he was walking the floor and patio, thanking folks for dropping in. I don't know what his typical day must be like as of late, but it must be crazy. I'm not surprised he told you that.

          1. re: bulavinaka

            I was under the impression that it's not actually his restaurant, that he was more the "designer" of the menu and that's it.

            http://kogibbq.com/2010/10/so-about-t...

            So it seems perfectly reasonable that he'd only be in the kitchen there for a brief while. Are you suggesting that you think he was kidding?

            edit: Er, to clarify, I have no idea whether or not he has an ownership stake or some other official role, but that post clearly states that he's not the chef.

            1. re: QualityMart

              >>So it seems perfectly reasonable that he'd only be in the kitchen there for a brief while. Are you suggesting that you think he was kidding?<<

              ?? Don't understand your question about kidding...? I saw this open letter as well a couple of months back (?) and took it as he was helping launch A-Frame with David Reiss (Beechwood, The Brig and I think Alibi Room) and would step back and hand the wheel over to an associate. Here's the part of his open letter that pretty much defines the trajectory of A-Frame:

              >>I am not really the chef at this restaurant.

              Think of me as Silent Bob.

              Jonas Curameng and Beth Kellerhals will strap on the boots for this one. Jonas was our sous chef at Kogi and Chego.
              He took it all from me and this is our gift to him. He is ready to knock your socks off. Beth was a Kogi follower that told me she gives cavities.<<

              1. re: bulavinaka

                Ok, we're on the same page then. I just didn't understand why you said "I'm not surprised he told you that." It gave me the impression that you thought he was the chef and was making a sarcastic crack under a heavy workload or something. I have found that a lot of people don't know about his relationship to A-Frame and think that it is his restaurant. I figured if you knew about it, it would be an odd thing to say since him mentioning his last day would be a simple statement of fact and wouldn't seem to have any relevance to how overworked he is.

                Now I get you were just saying that he'll be glad to take a rest of sorts. I totally agree the guy must be quite busy!

        2. My wife has visited A-Frame with her work friends a couple of times and still can't get enough of this place. We dropped by again tonight and enjoyed another tasty meal. Their Ten Fiddy stout has been replaced by Asylum - very rich and smooth considering it's listed at 11%. Also tried the Sublimely Self-righteous Ale Black IPA (8.5%), which was surprisingly well-balanced. I'm typically not a big fan of Stone Brewery, but this one hit the mark for me. The Asylum went very very well with their Thick Ass Ice Cream Sandwich (oatmeal cherry cookies, cinnamon ice cream), as well as with the Chu Don't Know Mang. A-Frame should consider offering stout/ice cream floats.

          Just about all of their food goes great with drinks. Sweet/spicy nuts, heirloom pickles, peel & eat shrimp, Island-style FM salad, babyback ribs, and the Korean style spicy wings, came out surprisingly fast, and my only complaint was that I found the ribs and wings to be too heavily sauced for my tastes. But my favorite dish of the night was the five-grain pan de sel. If you're a sucker for the smell of baked bread, this one will rock your world. Smallish looking yet substantial, the crust is crunchy, the interior is billows of love, and the mega-slab of Plugra is like slathering on the wild thing.

          Again - the food came out rapid fire. We were in and out of their in less than an hour. Service was attentive yet not over-bearing. Our server (June) was another graduate of the “Certified Genuinely Nice Person to All Guests” school. Even my son was impressed enough by her to mention this - he also mentioned how pretty she was. As I wipe the tears from my cheeks, I'm realizing my little boy is turning that corner toward adolescence. :)

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          1. re: bulavinaka

            Just a correction on the name of the current Russian Imperial Stout at A-Frame: It's Abyss from Deschutes Brewery in Oregon. Recalling the name as Asylum must have been a Freudian slip. Back to my padded room.

          2. Been wanting to try this. Can't find them on google, does anyone know if they serve lunch, unlike his other places?! I'd really like to take a friend for her birthday tomorrow, and no one has mentioned their hours. TIA!

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            1. re: Phurstluv

              If you go to the place link at the top of this thread for the restaurant their website has that information.

              1. re: Servorg

                If you mean the Chow link, I've tried that and it has no information other than the address and phone number.

                Do you mean the thread? I will try that next , but was hoping not to have to weed through a whole discussion. Otherwise, I'll just break down and use old Ma Bell. Thanks anyway.

                1. re: Phurstluv

                  Try going to the chow link again. There is a hyperlink to the restaurant website with all that information, plus a menu with prices.

                  1. re: Servorg

                    Thanks, went to the website, and as I feared, it is dinner only. Sigh. Can't wait until I have my evenings free once again.

                1. re: wienermobile

                  Thanks, wieney, I finally went to the website. Thanks for being straightforward with the info.

              2. I really like this place - it's a great addition and fills a fantastic role for a casual, interesting, communal hang with really good food. We took the kids (6 and 8) last week on the earlier side - we were there at 6:30 and seated right away. The place is pretty loud so they wouldn't be bothering anyone with just about anything they did. It's not overly loud, you can talk easily at the table, but the place has a nice life to it.

                We totally enjoyed the house pickled vegetables, which were carrots, radishes, cukes (go figure - ACTUAL pickles on a pickle plate. Is the end of days near?) with a neat, complementary dipping sauce part creamy, part oily to balance the pickles. Some umami may have been going on, too. I don't recall what the sauce was billed as, but it was good.

                We also really dug the lamb chops - this is a must order. They are nicely charred, med rare inside, juicy and lovely with enough fat to make it interesting and decadent. Again, these are a must. With a tart dipping sauce that reminded me of a tangy tomatillo salsa and went well with the smoky, fatty chops to cut the decadence down just a notch. The kids want to go back for these, in particular. Beer can chicken was also a great roast chicken, easy to like.

                The tempura vegetables were interesting - the pumpkin or squash was thin, crispy and light, and the broccoli rabe seemed interesting and definitely carried the dipping sauce well, but the leafy bits retained a bit too much of the oil from the fryer and didn't completely work.

                Dessert - churros made from pound cake and chocolate milk was a serious winner. Easy to like!

                Wine list and beers are excellent - well priced Turley Zin by the glass and a variety of beers that span the spectrum are great matches for the food they are turning out.

                Service was really great - very friendly, helpful server who was casual but attentive. They somehow make it seem like they are in on the fun here, as some of the others in the thread have mentioned. It makes for a great vibe, no question.

                I also like the communal aspect of the tables - some might be turned off, but I think its great and something our city needs more of. I saw them seating a couple with another 3 diners at a 5 top corner table, for example. That's pretty darn communal.

                They are using the tagline "modern picnic" and its really pretty apt. We'll be back in force for more soon. I'd say it's well worth a visit just to see what they are doing and how they are doing it.

                <Edit > I just re-read Bulavinaka's original post and realize we ordered nearly the same things as they did!! Sorry for the lack of comment on new food items - that'll have to wait for next time, I guess. Ah well, sometimes hounds think and apparently order alike.

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                1. re: CulverJack

                  Hey CulverJack,

                  I pretty much agree with all your thoughts. My wife wanted to order a bottle of the Turley (bottle or glass, it is a good price when considering the potential for mark up), but I withdrew my vote and went with the stouts - again.

                  We have kids as well, and we like to go on the early side too. And they really like the outdoor seating. If the weather continues to hold up, you might try hitting A-Frame as early as possible, catch the tail-end of the warm day, and ease into the cool of the early evening. They turn the heaters and the fire pit on, as well as bring out blankets for you.

                  We ordered the Thick Ass Ice Cream Sandwich last Friday, and alternating bites with sips of the stout was pretty amazing. My wife didn't believe me at first (she doesn't like stout), but after some nudging, she gave it a whirl and was hooked.

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                  A-Frame
                  12565 Washington Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90066, USA

                  1. re: bulavinaka

                    Great idea, Bulavinaka. I feel like the days are getting longer and the patio sounds like fun. Go CC and MV!! I never understand folks who say CC has "too many restaurants". We're a destination, dad nab it! And now one with lamb chops eaten by hand and Turley by the glass!