Do you call hazelnuts filberts?
Just curious. When I was growing up in Boston everyone I knew did. I'm wondering if it's a regional thing, or cultural (we're Jewish and pretty much only had them in the house around Chanukah).
Did you/do you call them filberts - and if so where are you from?
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No, but my father did. I won't post what he called Brazil nuts, however; some things are best left to history.
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re: pikawicca
My grandfather Owen called brazil nuts by the unmentionable name at every opportunity, I think because he knew how much it riled my dad. His notion of humor. However, lots of the kids I knew used it routinely and quite innocently. There's a lot I do NOT miss about the Good Old Days.
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re: Veggo
They weren't even confined to that plant. At one point I did some part time work in a medicinal herb shop. One of the commoner herbs I had to dig out was Senna tora (now Senna obtusifolia, the store got the two names confused as well) One of the oldder customers would come regularly to pick some up. Only he called it by one of it's common names which happens to be the same epithet as the brazil nuts (well, the marginally lesser version, the five letter one as opposed to the six) +coffee. I am also reminded of the fact that Citrus hystix is now called Markut Lime, as the older name (the one that began with "K", six letters) was finally deemed too offensive (though I think there is still a sort of edible tree legume native to Africa called "K-word" bean. And of course there is a small edible fruit called a "H-word"(nine letters) fig).
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Both are the same nuts.
I believe it was a marketing decision to switch from Filberts, an old nerdy name, to Hazelnut is the modern more hip name.
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re: Perilagu Khan
I too call them filberts, ESPECIALLY if they're candy coated, ala "mothballs", which might be a New England term.
and I agree, it's an ice box :-)Interestingly, my dad called all hickory nuts, even those for human (as opposed to squirrel) consumption, "Pignuts". I don't believe it's botanically correct, but I still get a kick out of that 35 years past little kidhood.
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I grew up in West Virginia and we used the blanket term "hazelnut" there. I heard the word Filbert for the first time when I moved to Oregon a few years ago and had no idea what people were talking about. I discovered that they grow a lot of Filberts (Corylus maxima) in the Willamette Valley and that many people who live around there are careful to differentiate them from the Common Hazel or Cobnut (Corylus avellana.) They also do the same thing with Marionberries, a regionally grown blackberry variety. I've also heard of a third type of hazelnut called the Turkish Hazel (Corylus colurna.) Since I moved to Texas I've had a hard time finding hazelnuts in the store. Lo and behold they were in the bulk foods section of Whole Foods listed under "Filbert"- and I thought it was just a weird Oregon thing!
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re: alloy1028
There are actually a LOT of species of Hazelnut. North america actually has two native of it's own (though both are small nutted, and thefore not commecially grown) the American Hazel (Corylus americana) and the Beaked Hazel (Corylus cornuta) in fact back when I was a kid I sued to go to a summer camp that actually had a copse of beaked hazels (though since I was there in summer, the nuts were never ripe, so I can't commnent on how they taste)
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re: bbqboy
Add:
They are called Hazelnuts by the State of Oregon, however....
http://www.oregon.gov/BRANDOREGON/bou...
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i grew up as well in the Boston area and we called them filberts too. If I remember correctly, I do not think the term hazelnuts came into the picture until the '80s..
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re: woodleyparkhound
I agree, and I'm guessing that the change in terminology on this side of the Atlantic may have come about in part due to the expansion of "foodie" culture in the '80s (and I do not use the word derogatorily). Thus the introduction of European products such as Nutella, chocolate bars and cakes made with "hazelnuts," and the like influenced usage. Plus, hazelnut just sounds more mellifluous than filbert. Filbert's a nerd word that you blurt; hazelnut is sexy as it buzzes across your tongue!
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Always called them hazelnuts. Parents spoke German at home when I was growing up and the German word (hazelnuss ) is similar. The nut wasn't that popular among other people where I lived (Pa. Dutch country ) and by the time they'd become more well known, most ppl called them hazelnuts.
They've always been my favorite nut!
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Brought up in England I remember them as cob nuts, and a very little research online suggests that 'cob' and 'filbert' were names given to the nuts from different species of hazelnut that yielded different shaped nuts.
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re: andrewtree
Yeah I've heard that one as well, the round dark reddish ones are hazels, the longer more pale orange ones were filberts/cobnuts. Ive also heard a three tiered system based on how far the husk extends around the nut's shell; if it was shorter than the nut it was a hazel, more or less equal a filbert much longer a cobnut. Problem is, the same tree can yield nuts of more than one type in either classification (there is also the fact that, under the second system, the two american species would have to be classified as the american filbert and the beaked cobnut, and they're both hazels)
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re: jumpingmonk
You may be right about the origins. St Philibert was French and, after the conquest of England in 1066, many words came across the Channel and were incorporated into English usage. Our main area still for for growing hazelnuts is the county of Kent - only 21 miles from France - although now much reduced from the 2800 hectares a hundred years ago to around 300 now.
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re: Harters
Well the source did say the the term was Norman French in origin. There is also the fact that the basis is sound. After all in the days before the common man had regular acess to calenders, dates were often calculated from the proximity to varios holy days, so it is likey that the average English nut forager (I almost said "the average English nutter!" g>) wound not have though of the season as being "around the 20th of August" but as being "around the Feast of St. Philibert" (sorta similar to how the autumn term at some of the old english schools is stilled called the Michelmas term, since its starts roughly around the Feast of St. Michael)
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White trash gentile from the West Texas bulrushes. Grew up calling them filberts and still do. And outside of a few people in my fambly and passadumkeg, they're my favorite nuts.
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Yes. But I re-describe as hazelnuts to people who look at me quizzicly when I say 'filbert'.
Detroit. Polish/Catholic family.
Mom still calls them filberts. She is 84.
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re: bob96
No Italians in my family, and hardly any in our part of Illinois, but everyone I knew said "filbert." We were aware that "hazelnut" was another name for the same thing, just didn't use it. I think this is another good example of mass communications flattening out local differences, with more widely common names for things displacing colloquial usage.
I'm still trying to understand how poblanos got to be officially named "pasillas" …
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re: Veggo
Go buy some poblanos at the supermarket and that'll be how they're labelled and how they scan. I have read that people in some pockets of Mexico do DO call the dark-green heart-shaped chiles "pasillas" - so I'm guessing that when the USDA asked their resident Mexican what those are called, that's where he was from.
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