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Mattapoisett in LA Dec 1, 2010 08:09 PM

Dommy and I braved the cold on our bikes tonight to try Scoops-Westside. Matt was there behind the cooler, serving up the Tai Kim masterpieces. We had Pumpkin Spice/Fig Pistachio and a Brown Brown Bread/Banana Oreo[soy] which were delicious.

Scoops Westside
10640 Woodbine St
Los Angeles CA 90034

Hours for now are 12-10

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Scoops Westside
10640 Woodbine St, Los Angeles, CA 90034

  1. f
    fdb Dec 11, 2010 01:16 AM

    Some of yesterday's flavors:

    Cinnamon Brown Brown Bread
    Blueberry Ume
    Guinness Chocolate
    Chai Black Sesame
    Green Tea Egg Nog
    Lemon Cashew Nuts (soy based)

    1. hyacinthgirl Dec 5, 2010 01:38 PM

      I AM SO HAPPY. (except for the closed on Sunday part).
      thanks for the updates!

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      1. re: hyacinthgirl
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        jackattack Dec 20, 2010 05:29 PM

        Closed Sundays? RIDICULOUS! That's the biggest ice cream day of the week!

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          Jase Dec 21, 2010 08:43 AM

          I actually thought Sundays is the slowest ice cream day of the week, especially for a place like this where it's a destination spot in a small strip mall. If it was in a big mall like Westside Pavilion, then it would make sense to stay open on Sundays. But in their location and a one man staff, Sunday as a day off makes sense.

          1. re: Jase
            hyacinthgirl Dec 21, 2010 09:13 AM

            I'm not sure about the general traffic on Sundays, but in irrelevant personal anectdote data, the closed on Sundays element has meant that I have yet to be able to get there. My down time and corresponding food splurges almost always fall on Sundays.

            1. re: hyacinthgirl
              Servorg Dec 21, 2010 09:19 AM

              I hear you and echo your sentiments. Not to belabor the point, but the new Scoops location is on one of THE major conduits for those coming and going to the Westside Pavillion mall. Seems like a good time to be open. I certainly think that when the weather is warmer they would be missing a huge bet if they don't open on Sundays.

              1. re: Servorg
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                Jase Dec 21, 2010 09:41 AM

                FWIW, my experience was different when I ran a gourmet ice cream store in a similar location. We were also near some other high traffic destination points and yes we had people stop by to satisfy their cravings after going to the other places. But Sundays was consistently the slowest part of the week. Talking to other franchisees in similar set ups confirmed that it was the same for them too.

                If you're running a small staff or one man operation and don't want to burn yourself out working seven days a week, you closed down on Sunday. It was the best balance of recharging batteries while still maintaining cash flow. Otherwise, you'd have to pay someone to be open just for the two big spurts, early afternoon and early evening. It would be pretty dead the rest of the time.

                In a post above, Mathew says he's the only one running the store right now. He probably figures currently it's not worth the Sunday business versus the burnout or extra staffing expense.

                1. re: Jase
                  Dommy Dec 21, 2010 09:07 PM

                  He also casually mentioned that he attends services on Sunday... which was why I don't complain... and it means more weekday scoops visits for me... ;)

                  --Dommy!

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        New Trial Dec 4, 2010 10:25 PM

        The Pistachio Fig was still there tonight and was excellent, as was the Brown Bread but I knew that one would be from having had it before at Golden State.

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        The Golden State
        426 N. Fairfax Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90036

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        1. re: New Trial
          Dommy Dec 4, 2010 10:39 PM

          Pistachio Fig is one of my all time favorites. Not only because they combine two of my favorite flavors, but because the flavors are so well matched. The honey notes from the fig combined with the roasted flavor of the pistachio turn almost into this rich caramel flavor. at the original scoops, I am always the one putting on some chocolate jimmies or peanuts on my scoop. But I NEVER adorn the Pistachio Fig... it stands alone...

          --Dommy!

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            kevin Dec 5, 2010 09:29 AM

            i've never adorned any of the scoops, i just always let them sing on their own.

            1. re: kevin
              Dommy Dec 5, 2010 12:02 PM

              What can I say, I'm a sundae girl myself... you should see my cups at menchies... about 4tbs of frozen yogurt (usually fruit flavored) but spoonfuls of walnuts and fistfuls of maraschino cherries... LOL!

              --Dommy!

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                kevin Dec 5, 2010 12:41 PM

                see but the difference is that i think scoops is an artisanal product, not to be pretentious, but stuff like menchie's or yogurtland or the old schoolder's like the big hcill or penguins are regular old frozen yogurt which work best with toppings, i don't really like penguin's soft serve too much but if it's late at night and i want a sweet treat, nothing could be much better than the vanilla serve with loads of hot fudge over it.

                1. re: kevin
                  Dommy Dec 5, 2010 09:15 PM

                  Oh, I'm in no way comparing Menchies to Scoops. I just used it as an extreme example on how I like to take my frozen desserts, with toppings, regardless of quality. Obviously with Scoops I would use much less toppings and am fine with the lack of toppings at the Westside location, but when giving the choice, I do like a little contrast of textures with my ice cream...

                  --Dommy!

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                  Menchie's
                  6731 Fallbrook Ave, West Hills, CA 91307

                  1. re: Dommy
                    Dommy Feb 19, 2011 10:27 PM

                    Just had to post an update, Scoops Westside now has Jimmies and Nuts available for their ice cream!!! :D Also, ice cream cones! Although tonight I didn't adorn my cone of Black Sesame ice cream with any jimmies or nuts... it was just perfect the way it was! ;D

                    --Dommy!

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                    Scoops Westside
                    10640 Woodbine St, Los Angeles, CA 90034

        2. J.L. Dec 4, 2010 04:45 PM

          Just went to Heliotrope Scoops earlier this week, and I just got back from the new Palms location.

          My initial thoughts on the Palms location: Nice, clean space, with wall art. Currently, only one freezer containing 7 or 8 ice cream flavors (2 of which are vegan). Many of the flavors (not surprisingly) overlap the current flavors at the Heliotrope location.

          Each pint costs $7.00 (compared to $6.00 at Heliotrope). I understand completely, since operating expenses are a tad higher on the Westside (it may also include cost of transport).

          Really looking forward to visiting this location again and again in the future. Good luck to Tai & his crew.

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          1. re: J.L.
            Servorg Dec 4, 2010 04:56 PM

            Did you sample the product at the new location? (couldn't tell if you did or didn't from your post). If you did do you have any opinion on Kevin's post above http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7507... regarding the comparison (in which the new location falls short) between the two?

            1. re: Servorg
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              kevin Dec 4, 2010 06:33 PM

              i was at the heliotrope location today, and sadly i still stand by my feelings on the palms location. the mouth feel and everything associated with the heliotrope locale was the same as times past. i'm seriously hoping it's something having to do with the temperature of the freezer at the palms location that made it more like ice cream (there were a couple of bites than even had ice crystals i think) but i rreally want the palms location to be as good as the heliotrope/melrose location since palms is considerably closer to me.

              1. re: Servorg
                J.L. Dec 4, 2010 07:26 PM

                Tasted a sample of the following at Palms Scoops today:

                Spiced Pumpkin: Tasted the same as Heliotrope.
                Pistachio Fig: Good. But I can't compare, since I didn't see this as Heliotrope on my last visit.
                Coffee Irish Cream: Excellent. I bought a pint of this.
                Guinness Chocolate: Didn't try it at Palms
                Brown Brown Bread: Tai's only staple - Didn't try it ('cuz I've had this a million times before)

                All in all, I think the taste (so far) at Scoops Palms is the same as Scoops Heliotrope.

                N.B.: I pretty much like all ice creams, so I don't really mind the "less creamy" variants that Tai formulates every now and then.

                1. re: J.L.
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                  kevin Dec 4, 2010 08:28 PM

                  maybe i'll drop by tonite.

                  it may just be an eight scoop day for me, lucikily there's last butterfat.

                  1. re: kevin
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                    risottoman Dec 4, 2010 09:53 PM

                    hey kevin, I understand your point of view. I actually try to rectify the texture of the ice cream by having the temperature of the freezer a tiny bit warmer than even at Scoops on Heliotrope. At the original location, the freezer gets opened more often so the temperature stays warmer whereas currently since there are a few periods when the freezer isn't opened as often, the ice cream can get a bit harder.

                    The line between gelato and ice cream at Scoops can be a pretty thin one. I assure you that the quality and consistency of the ice cream at Palms is exactly the same as the one at Heliotrope. There is some flavor overlap, but we're trying to mix it up as much as possible to cater to local tastes. Since there are a lot of locals who haven't tried some of Scoops "staple" flavors, we're keeping it simple for now. Thanks for your thoughts, please let me know if/when you drop by.

                    full disclosure: this is matthew, the owner of scoops westside. (and the only guy that currently works there). In conforming with Chowhound's posting etiquette, I was addressing an issue regarding the product that we offer.

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                      fdb Dec 4, 2010 10:25 PM

                      What is your hours at Palms?

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                        risottoman Dec 4, 2010 10:42 PM

                        Our hours are 12PM - 10PM, Monday through Saturday. We are closed Sundays.

                  2. re: J.L.
                    Dommy Dec 4, 2010 10:37 PM

                    The Brown Brown Bread is actually the Westside's exclusive flavor. I'm not a huge fan of the original brown bread OR Dulce de Leche (Give me Tangy Cajeta anyday...) but the combo here worked amazing well...

                    Also, I like the firmer texture of the Westside's product. Although I LOVE scoops flavor profiles, it was never my absolute favorite because it felt and tasted flabby (And I knew the main culprit was that Tai and the gang always left the doors open... but I'm not one to complain about something a business does in kindness to other customers). Matt's scoops are well formed, you can taste the flavors on their own or combine the two. And giving the cup a little bit of time, especially when you are outside the shop, maybe getting in some mid afternoon sun... eventually the two flavors do fall into each other. at their own time, so you can savor your ice cream and not rush to avoid the dreaded ice cream soup...

                    --Dommy!

                    1. re: J.L.
                      burumun Dec 20, 2010 04:13 PM

                      JL: I do believe the brown brown bread here is different than the original brown bread at Scoops heliotrope. I hear ppl say it's better, and I agree.

                2. aching Dec 3, 2010 07:48 AM

                  Oh wow, this is so exciting. I feel a Chego/Scoops double-header coming on...

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                  1. re: aching
                    Dommy Dec 3, 2010 12:51 PM

                    You LITERALLY can walk from one to another.... so it takes away some (very little!) of the guilt...

                    --Dommy!

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                      kevin Dec 3, 2010 07:57 PM

                      Like about 100 yards on your pedometer.

                    2. re: aching
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                      baloney Dec 3, 2010 02:53 PM

                      Totally what I was thinking....methinks the walk needs to be a bit further to counteract the calories consumed from both places though!

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                        Mattapoisett in LA Dec 3, 2010 03:24 PM

                        You will have to walk through Downtown [LA that is] to counter that amount of calories

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                          kevin Dec 3, 2010 07:58 PM

                          i think his ice cream is low in butterfat content, maybe 9 to 10, rather thant super premisum ice cream which is like 16 to 18 so maybe that helps a bit.

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                            aching Dec 4, 2010 02:26 PM

                            Comforting thought, but doesn't help with Chego's Ooey Gooey Fries!

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                            Chego
                            3300 Overland Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90034

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                      nitaj Dec 2, 2010 05:20 PM

                      I had salty chocolate and brown bread today and it was even better since I didn't have to make the trek to Heliotrope.

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                        Raspberries Dec 2, 2010 06:41 PM

                        So is it open today then or closed to make fixes to pass inspection? Sorry, I can't seem to find a phone number to check.

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                          nitaj Dec 2, 2010 09:37 PM

                          I went about 4pm and it was open.

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                            Mattapoisett in LA Dec 2, 2010 10:07 PM

                            Apparently the aforementioned closure was wrong and they are still open for business. Sorry for passing Bad Info.

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                        mdpilam Dec 2, 2010 04:35 PM

                        Any beer places nearby so I could make my own beer float?

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                        1. re: mdpilam
                          Mattapoisett in LA Dec 2, 2010 05:14 PM

                          Off the top of my head the closest bars would be Bigfoot West and Saints and Sinners and slightly further afield is Father's Office. Though I'm not sure you could smuggle ice cream in there.

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                          Father's Office
                          3229 Helms Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90034

                          Saints and Sinners
                          10899 Venice Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90034

                          Bigfoot West
                          10939 Venice Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90034

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                            kevin Dec 3, 2010 07:56 PM

                            Yeah, Sang Yoong will probably excommunicate you for bringing something so gauche as ice cream into his fine establishment.

                            1. re: kevin
                              Servorg Dec 4, 2010 03:41 AM

                              As long as it's not ketchup flavored ice cream it ought to be okay... ;-D>

                        2. Mattapoisett in LA Dec 2, 2010 01:48 PM

                          Apparently they did not quite pass inspection today and will make fixes and reopen on Monday

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                          1. re: Mattapoisett in LA
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                            kevin Dec 4, 2010 09:32 AM

                            i dropped by last nite, and it just was not as good as scoops on heliotrope, the mouth feel and creaminess and indescribable way station between ice cream, gelato, ice milk, and soft serve was just not there. at scoops westside, it was just ice cream with tai's flavor profiles. it might be that they are just getting started and have only been open like three days or so and maybe one of the problems was that the temperature of the freezer holding the scoops is just not right.

                            anyhow, i'll try again soon to see how it is. it seems like they are almost not ready for prime time, but at the same time, it's kind of their quirky charm.

                          2. Dommy Dec 2, 2010 08:56 AM

                            It should be noted that they don't have signage up yet and they are closed on Sundays! And the Brown Brown Bread is indeed even more awesome than the original... NUM!

                            http://yfrog.com/bhaqq01j

                            --Dommy!

                            1. Servorg Dec 2, 2010 04:28 AM

                              So this is the old Western Smokehouse BBQ location then?

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                                Mattapoisett in LA Dec 2, 2010 05:44 AM

                                No. The four tenants in the building have the same address what differentiates them is unit number which I couldn't figure out. Western Smokehouse BBQ is still there,

                                1. re: Mattapoisett in LA
                                  Servorg Dec 2, 2010 05:47 AM

                                  Ah, thanks. I knew that it had to be near by, but hadn't been down Overland in a while. I'll have to cruise by some morning on my bike and take a look. Thanks for the heads up.

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                                fdb Dec 1, 2010 11:18 PM

                                Yippeeeee!!! So good to know!

                                1. J.L. Dec 1, 2010 08:36 PM

                                  THANK YOU for this early Christmas/Chanukah gift!!!

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