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cgarner Nov 30, 2010 09:03 AM

I don't want to hijack the thread about the turkey sitting out for two days...

My husband thinks I'm nuts that I put the apple and pumpkin pies in the refrigerator...am I the only that does this? it seems to me that they SHOULD be refrigerated... with all that moisture and the warmth in the kitchen, wouldn't that be a haven for nasty stuff to grow?

who else refrigerates their holiday pies?

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  1. ipsedixit RE: cgarner Nov 30, 2010 09:06 AM

    I do, not so much for food safety, but just because I like cold pie, esp. for breakfast.

    But rest assured, you can leave pie out for at least a couple of days (if not more). All that sugar retards spoilage.

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      cgarner RE: ipsedixit Nov 30, 2010 11:06 AM

      Pie for breakfast is my Favorite Friday after Thanksgiving treat, followed very closely by turkey brie and cranberry pannini

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        ipsedixit RE: cgarner Nov 30, 2010 02:19 PM

        I could eat cold pie for breakfast just about everyday if circumstances allowed for it.

        Cold pie + hot coffee = beautiful start of the day.

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          onceadaylily RE: ipsedixit Nov 30, 2010 02:25 PM

          When I make pie, I'm never thinking of eating it that night. Cold peach pie as a summer breakfast. Heaven.

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            gaffk RE: onceadaylily Nov 30, 2010 03:01 PM

            Cold apple pie and hot coffee on a winter morning--(almost) makes me wish winter would hurry up and get here.

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              LauraGrace RE: gaffk Nov 30, 2010 03:13 PM

              I am going into the kitchen to make a pumpkin pie right now. Breakfast in the morning fo' sho. :)

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                onceadaylily RE: gaffk Nov 30, 2010 03:14 PM

                It's blowing your way, gaffk. It's thirty degrees in Chicago (I live in the first northern suburb, but refuse to say 'Chicagoland', because that makes us sound like a giant used car lot). The first snow is predicted tonight. I'm making the boyfriend's favorite cookies, but plan on having the last of the apple crisp myself.

                Apple crisp, a variation of pie worth eating cold, maybe with an Irish coffee.

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                  gaffk RE: onceadaylily Nov 30, 2010 03:32 PM

                  Oooh, I had a boyfriend who went to CIA. Apple crisp and coffee on a Sunday morning . . . that was heaven.

                  Irish coffee? Much later in the day ;)

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                    onceadaylily RE: gaffk Nov 30, 2010 03:59 PM

                    What I love about apple crisp is that it takes but a minute to prepare, and there's no ensuing guilt over homemade pie crust vs store-bought. Apples, oats, and sugar.

                    It's almost seven in the dark light here, and the Jameson's is just *sitting* there.

      2. ChrisOC RE: cgarner Nov 30, 2010 10:05 AM

        We had a pumpkin pie and an apple pie at Thanksgiving, the leftovers remained on the counter until they were gone. I at the last piece yesterday (mon.), with no ill effects.

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          LauraGrace RE: cgarner Nov 30, 2010 01:11 PM

          We always covered them tightly and stuck them in the garage, which was obviously much cooler than the house. Never refrigerated them, though. I do now because I think cold pumpkin pie is one of the most delicious things in the world. :)

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            mojoeater RE: cgarner Nov 30, 2010 02:14 PM

            Refrigerating baked goods changes the texture - I learned this while working at a bakery years ago. We never put cakes, brownies, cookies in the fridge unless we were selling them as "past their prime." We did, however, chill custard pies if they survived the first day.

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              Sal Vanilla RE: mojoeater Nov 30, 2010 03:37 PM

              Even with a cream cheese frosting or a cheesecake? I am always iffy about leaving out anything cream cheese.

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                LauraGrace RE: Sal Vanilla Nov 30, 2010 03:42 PM

                Eh, it's already cheese! What's gonna happen? ;)

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                  Karl S RE: Sal Vanilla Nov 30, 2010 04:45 PM

                  Cream cheese frosting is not highly perishable, being made of cultured dairy products and sugar. It will spoil faster than if refrigerated, but it's not going to spoil overnight on the counter.

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                    mojoeater RE: Sal Vanilla Nov 30, 2010 05:38 PM

                    I've never seen cream cheese frosting go bad. Cheesecake never sat around for more than a day. And they both taste sooooo much better at room temp!

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                    weewah RE: mojoeater Dec 19, 2010 12:59 AM

                    Exactly - it spoils the pastry.
                    The only pies I have ever refrigerated are cream or custard, as you must. No-one has ever fallen ill as as a result!

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                      goodhealthgourmet RE: weewah Dec 19, 2010 06:58 PM

                      "Exactly - it spoils the pastry. "
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                      well, that depends on your personal preference. i never bothered eating the crust of fresh apple pie (back when i could eat conventional pastry) - the only part that appealed to me was the filling. *however* it was an entirely different story once those leftovers had been sitting in the fridge at least overnight. all that wonderful goo from the filling had a chance to seep into the bottom crust and turn it into a dense, chewy layer of sweet apple-y deliciousness. now THAT was heaven. it had to be eaten cold to keep the texture right - i just pushed the filling aside and went to town :)

                  3. onceadaylily RE: cgarner Nov 30, 2010 02:32 PM

                    I think it depends on the pie. I wouldn't feel compelled to stick a straightforward apple or cherry pie in the fridge for safety reasons alone, but if it has a filling with any cream or milk (and many of mine do), or any eggs, then in it goes. The boyfriend dislikes refrigerated pies, so I operate on a case-by-case basis, simply in the name of compromise. I always refrigerate pumpkin pie, being a custardy thing.

                    1. alanbarnes RE: cgarner Nov 30, 2010 03:08 PM

                      I don't; IMO it makes the crust soggy.

                      Fruit pies are no problem at all. They're high in acidity, which discourages bacterial growth, and have a fair amount of sugar, which is a preservative.

                      A custard pie (eg pumpkin) might be more worrisome if lasted more than a couple of days, but at least in my house that's not an issue.

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                        gaffk RE: alanbarnes Nov 30, 2010 03:34 PM

                        Yes, I have teenage nephews now. No pumpkin pie has lived to see Friday.

                      2. Karl S RE: cgarner Nov 30, 2010 03:26 PM

                        Apple and other acidic fruit pies don't need to be refrigerated unless you keep your house rather warm and want to keep the pie for a long time. Historically, people kept their pies in pie cabinets, to protect them from insects rather than spoilage as such.

                        On Sunday night, I enjoyed a berry cobbler that was out on the counter since Thanksgiving Day.

                        1. Breadcrumbs RE: cgarner Nov 30, 2010 05:23 PM

                          I really dislike cold pie but I just figure it will keep longer if leftovers are stored in the fridge. I just let my piece warm up again before eating it. Or better yet, I'll warm it in the oven.

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                            tastesgoodwhatisit RE: cgarner Nov 30, 2010 05:54 PM

                            I refrigerate pie in the summer - not for safety, but to keep it away from ants, because the only way to keep them out is to create a moat for the pie pan.

                            In winter, I leave it out - it's fine for a few days.

                            As an aside, I find that people from Canada/US (including myself) tend to have views of food safety and refrigeration that are laughably strict by the standards of other countries - basically, if anything is left out of the refrigerator for more than an hour, you'll die a horrible death if you eat it.

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                              weewah RE: tastesgoodwhatisit Dec 19, 2010 01:08 AM

                              I agree, and it is so irritating when people around me are aghast at my food habits!
                              I live in the Midwest, but grew up in the Middle East where everyday practices would throw your average North American into a panic.

                              I saw a kid on "yahoo answers" a while ago who was scared to death that he might have eaten undercooked shrimp, and was waiting for the symptoms of certain death to begin. No common sense! (I explained about sushi, lol)

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                              emilief RE: cgarner Dec 19, 2010 03:39 PM

                              I used to buy pies from a charity that has chefs from all over the city make pies for Tday. The last time I bought them (picked them up the day before Tday) when I went to cut the pumpkin pie on Tday it was moldy.Disgusting. I like the charity but do not buy their pies anymore.

                              1. chefathome RE: cgarner Dec 19, 2010 03:57 PM

                                Another cold pie lover here! Another pie that must be refrigerated, of course, is banoffee pie which I am making tomorrow.

                                1. Cherylptw RE: cgarner Dec 19, 2010 06:06 PM

                                  I refrigerate custard pies because it's a habit and also leaving a custard pie out in a warm kitchen (summer) will cause the custard to run.. Sweet potato goes in the fridge just because I like it cold. The rest stay out until the last crumb is gone...Desserts don't last long enough in my house to go moldy.

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                                    guilty RE: cgarner Dec 19, 2010 08:56 PM

                                    I, too, would put cooked pies in the refrigerator. It seems like leaving a pie out would invite staleness, no?

                                    I'd also worry about it spoiling, but I might be extra-cautious about such things.

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