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Grill 23 vs Abe & Louies for steak?

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cperryfranz Nov 30, 2010 08:33 AM

Hi,

I'm taking my husband out for his 40th birthday on Sat. night. He loves steak. I have not been to either of these restaurants. Which do you all prefer?

Thanks,
Carolann

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Grill 23 & Bar
161 Berkeley Street, Boston, MA 02116

Abe & Louie's
793 Boylston St, Boston, MA 02116

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    cstr RE: cperryfranz Nov 30, 2010 09:20 AM

    Both are great choices, I prefer A&L, nice selections great atmosphere.

    1. MC Slim JB RE: cperryfranz Nov 30, 2010 09:40 AM

      I've never gotten the appeal of Abe & Louie's: it has an unfortunate BBRG flavor to it.

      Grill 23 is my favorite of the luxury steakhouses in town, a category I'm admittedly bored with, but it has the best prime boutique-producer beef, and offers dry-aged ribeyes and NY strips, which I love. Some excellent (non-craft) bartending, too. It can get painfully loud, however.

      http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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      Grill 23 & Bar
      161 Berkeley Street, Boston, MA 02116

      Abe & Louie's
      793 Boylston St, Boston, MA 02116

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        cperryfranz RE: MC Slim JB Nov 30, 2010 10:50 AM

        What is BBRG flavor?

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          MC Slim JB RE: cperryfranz Nov 30, 2010 11:06 AM

          Back Bay Restaurant Group. They also operate Papa Razzi, Joe's American Bar & Grill, Charley's Eating & Drinking Saloon, Atlantic Fish, and the Coach Grill. There's a whiff of national casual-dining chain at these places that rubs me wrong.

          http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

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          Coach Grill
          55 Boston Post Rd, Wayland, MA 01778

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            treb RE: MC Slim JB Dec 1, 2010 07:02 AM

            Glorified 99's, if I'm correct, which they own.

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              Gabatta RE: treb Dec 1, 2010 08:18 AM

              Really? News to me.

              I am no huge fan of BBRG, however 'glorified 99s' is probably a bit unfair.

              To the OP, of the 2 you pose I would choose G23.

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                treb RE: Gabatta Dec 1, 2010 08:40 AM

                The owners of Charlie's owns the 99's.

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                  mgcmonkey RE: treb Dec 1, 2010 08:48 AM

                  O'Charley's owns 99..no relation to Charleys, which is owned by BBRG.

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              cannedmilkandfruitypebbles RE: MC Slim JB Dec 1, 2010 01:32 PM

              We are regulars at the Coach Grill for buisness dinners. Not sure I've ever had anything better than average.

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              Coach Grill
              55 Boston Post Rd, Wayland, MA 01778

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            9lives RE: MC Slim JB Nov 30, 2010 10:09 PM

            Grill 23 was always my choice if I wanted to take a client or date that I didn't want to talk to...or 8-10guys downstairs..: Oak room was quiet and elegant. Best combo was a steak at Mortons brought to the Oak Roam for consumption.....never did it but always thought so..:)

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            Grill 23 & Bar
            161 Berkeley Street, Boston, MA 02116

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            gramercyfoodie RE: cperryfranz Nov 30, 2010 11:52 AM

            I'd skip both and head to Mooo. I am not a big fan of Grill 23 or A&L but think mooo is fantastic...!

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            Mooo
            15 Beacon St., Boston, MA 02108

            Grill 23 & Bar
            161 Berkeley Street, Boston, MA 02116

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              T.Clark RE: cperryfranz Nov 30, 2010 04:59 PM

              Of the two choices I'd Choose 23. It was quite busy and loud with conventioneers last time in. But good.

              Not on your list but I went to Capital a few months back. We were shopping close by and went in around 5:30 on a wed night. We sat at the bar planning on a couple cocktails first, then we were going into dining room. We ended up staying at the bar for dinner and I gotta tell you we had a blast. Two youngish bartenders made our night. I've never had a "fun" time at what I thought would be a stoggy steak house.

              1. rlove RE: cperryfranz Nov 30, 2010 05:07 PM

                Not even in the same ballpark.

                Choose Grill 23: Better atmosphere, better steaks, superior wine list, and not a BBRG mass-appeal chain.

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                Grill 23 & Bar
                161 Berkeley Street, Boston, MA 02116

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                  trueblu RE: cperryfranz Nov 30, 2010 07:56 PM

                  The steak at Grill23 is good, but the atmosphere is so loud, it's not my sort of place for a celebration. Not been to A&L, so can't comment, but many on the board are detractors, and at those prices, and with very decent other options, can't be bothered to independently verify.

                  XV Beacon and Oak room are v. good imo.

                  tb

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                    Jolyon Helterman RE: trueblu Nov 30, 2010 09:27 PM

                    Upstairs dining room at Grill 23 has a much more peaceful vibe than downstairs.

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                    Grill 23 & Bar
                    161 Berkeley Street, Boston, MA 02116

                  2. C. Hamster RE: cperryfranz Dec 1, 2010 12:59 PM

                    Grill 23, definitely

                    Abe and Louie's absolutely has a chain feel to it. The Oak Room is very stuffy to me. Moo is terrific. Smith and Wollensky not terrific. The Palm, just ok. Morton's food is good and so is their service but who wants to eat in a basement?

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                    Grill 23 & Bar
                    161 Berkeley Street, Boston, MA 02116

                    Oak Room
                    138 St. James Avenue, Boston, MA 02116

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                      observor RE: C. Hamster Dec 1, 2010 01:35 PM

                      60 dollars sure is a lot to pay for a steak at a place with a chain-like feel to it. I've also heard A&L is loud.

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                        9lives RE: observor Dec 1, 2010 01:44 PM

                        A & L is loud; steak house lively loud...but NOTHING COMPARED TO GRILL 23..:)

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                      carneyvore RE: cperryfranz Dec 1, 2010 01:46 PM

                      Both are very good and very loud--I give A&L points for their martinis and cheese wedge in the bar, but Grill 23 has a surer hand on non-steak entrees. I would recommend Moooo, which is very good and has a funkier decor.

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                      Grill 23 & Bar
                      161 Berkeley Street, Boston, MA 02116

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                        treb RE: carneyvore Dec 1, 2010 01:52 PM

                        A&L has a great swordfish chop.

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                          9lives RE: treb Dec 1, 2010 02:03 PM

                          yeah! bone in sword..like a kama...and from the same part of the fish... great dish

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