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tldmatrix Nov 22, 2010 01:49 PM

I cannot wait until Top Chef Season 8 (December 1st). All of the chefs in the competition are extremely talented. No chefs cannot cook this time, everyone has tons of skill. I am excited to see how Marcel does. He was Michael Voltaggio's sous chef at The Bazaar after his Season 2 performance. I have a feeling that Marcel is much more talented now then when he was on Season 2.

I think the top competitors will be Richard, Jennifer, Angelo, and Tiffani Faison. They are my pick for the top four. Richard and Angelo should have won their season, but choked in the finally.

The All Stars are great, but some of the best chefs in Top Chef were left out (Kevin Gillespie, Bryan Voltaggio, Stefan, and Kenny) :(

Who do you guys think will be the toughest competitors?

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  1. GraydonCarter Dec 5, 2010 08:28 AM

    This season already seems kinda boring because we know none of these chefs is going to have a disaster, a complete failure. Which is why you need somebody flamboyant like Bourdain to CALL a dish a disaster, when in fact it probably is simply just not completely perfect.

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    1. re: GraydonCarter
      mattstolz Dec 5, 2010 11:28 AM

      i dunno i think several of these chefs are still capable of disasters in the right circumstances. plus, it makes it even more interesting when someone DOES have one, because youre not expecting it.

      1. re: mattstolz
        Sandwich_Sister Dec 5, 2010 11:42 AM

        agree and we have a lot of chefs that have been known to teeter up and down. It's still anyone's game.

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        ediblover Dec 5, 2010 12:18 PM

        There's always going to be a disaster. All of the chefs are talented, but something, whether it's something in their control or not, will inevitably happen that will lead to an absolute wreck of a dish. Odds are better that you bet on it happening than not.

        The only thing that would surprise me is if an underdog wins the competition. In every season we can identify the contenders from the not after a few episodes and I can't recall a single season in which a contestant that was weak early on won the whole thing.

        1. re: ediblover
          John E. Dec 5, 2010 01:19 PM

          While Kevin in TC 7 did well in the first episode, he didn't do well in the next three eliminations, in fact he was in the bottom in episodes 3 and 4. In fact, I just looked it up, Kevin the winner of TC 7 was in the bottom of the elimination challenge 5 times. Hosea (5) was in the bottom 4 times, Hung (3) and Stephanie (4) 3 times and Harold (1) and Ilan (2) were in the bottom 2 times while Michael Voltaggio (6) was at the bottom of an elimination challenge only once. My OCB made me look them up on Wikipedia.

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            ediblover Dec 5, 2010 02:24 PM

            It goes up and down. The strong chefs make their presence felt (early) and while they may end up in the bottom at times (with things like safe Puerto Rican food) they've already establish themselves. The other chefs in the house certain thought highly of Kevin (or at least they were in their commentary).

            An underdog from last season would be the young female chef. I recall her having only one successful dish (the bbq ribs) and she made several mistakes such as making a soup to disguise her soup, improperly cooking grass-fed beef, using up budget on buying alcohol to serve to kids, not cutting veggies the same size, the great minestrone and pasta debate, etc.. In the Vegas season it was Robin (Or was it Robyn?); even though she got far (top 5?), no one thought she'd win it all.

            This season, Stephen certainly fits the bill. I also don't have much confidence in Dale L, Antonia, and Tiffany D.

      3. John E. Dec 1, 2010 02:29 PM

        This is a little off topic...but in the finale reruns Bravo is showing Mike Voltaggio had a good line. He's making soft boiled eggs sous vide style and is a little worried they won't be done in time. He said "It's up to the egg at this point".

        1. iL Divo Dec 1, 2010 10:01 AM

          Is there a list on here who's participating? Haven't read all posts

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          1. re: iL Divo
            LindaWhit Dec 1, 2010 10:08 AM

            This earlier thread has it all, or you could go to Bravo's TC website:

            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/735782

            1. re: LindaWhit
              iL Divo Dec 3, 2010 09:34 AM

              thanks to Linda and Graydon, I found both.

              watched it at 1:30am when I got home from work our son had taped it for me.
              liked it, still like Marcel and really liked and got a kick out of the Italian guy is it Fabio?
              anyway, loved how he stood up to AB regardless of AB's reputation as being a great and talented chef. Thought the one who was first to be sent home this season deserved it. Also thought that chef [saying it that way as to not spoil for those who haven't seen it yet although it may already be posted here, no time to look/read] seemed very fragile to me viewing it anyway, just my opinion.

            2. re: iL Divo
              GraydonCarter Dec 2, 2010 09:55 AM

              Television Without Pity did a fun "Love, Hate or Love to Hate" photo gallery:

              http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/...

              1. re: GraydonCarter
                LindaWhit Dec 2, 2010 10:24 AM

                I think they're WAY wrong re: Tiffani Faison: "She's going to be the one who picks fights with everyone this season, and it's going to be awesome. " Disagree. I think she's entered a much mellower stage and she doesn't seem anywhere near as harsh.

                As for their comment re: Marcel - there' s no way he'll remain "awkwardly polite."

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                  momjamin Dec 2, 2010 10:43 AM

                  There are several comments I don't agree with. I'll keep posting with you guys ;-)

                  1. re: momjamin
                    John E. Dec 2, 2010 01:39 PM

                    You're right. They're wrong about Tiffani, Marcel and Elia. Marcel never got his head shaved and while Tiffani was a b*tch in season one her reign as the moated hated was quickly over due to Marcel's arrival. Ellis would not have been eliminated if Cliff hadn't wrestled Marcel to the floor, the judges all said on camera that he had the worst food and would likely have been eliminated anyway. Oh, and Richard didn't deserve to win, he chocked, remember?

                2. re: GraydonCarter
                  mattstolz Dec 4, 2010 01:41 PM

                  im honestly still trying to figure out why everyone loves Jen Carrol so much. i thought she was OK on her season, and had some great dishes every once in a while, but i think it was more a rare spark than a normal thing that was just effected by pressure. plus, if you cant handle the pressure on top chef, you're not gunna do very well. especially on a season of all stars. would have much rather seen Kevin come back than Jen from their season.

                  1. re: mattstolz
                    Sandwich_Sister Dec 4, 2010 01:52 PM

                    Really? Seriously?

                    Of course you would like to see Kevin come back. He was the final 3 and not the 4 that jen was but Jen was 4 on a tough season and for that she is a bad ass.

                    Kevin declined and that is why he isn't there.

                    1. re: Sandwich_Sister
                      LindaWhit Dec 4, 2010 03:02 PM

                      mattstolz said "plus, if you cant handle the pressure on top chef, you're not gunna do very well. "
                      ~~~~~~~~~~~
                      I guess being personally selected by Chef Eric Ripert to be his Chef de Cuisine at 10 Arts Bistro & Lounge in Philadelphia since its opening in 2008 -- a restaurant that is now a 3-star Michelin-rated restaurant -- isn't "doing very well", S_S.

                      Sucks to be her. :-)

                      1. re: Sandwich_Sister
                        mattstolz Dec 4, 2010 03:07 PM

                        i didnt know kevin declined. but honestly he was by far my favorite chef on that season all the way through. he was consistent, he was humble, and he cooked food that looked and sounded delicious and relatable. i was hoping he would win right up to the finale. i would much rather see a chef who takes familiar, homey food and can elevate it well win every time.

                        with the exception of richard blais. i pretty much just think he is awesome.

                        but i stand by my statement that if the pressure got to someone in a normal season of top chef, this season is only gunna be that much more intense. i just got tired of her sitting there complaining of her self doubt for like three episodes in a row.

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                  sibeats Dec 1, 2010 06:37 AM

                  Bryan Voltaggio and Stefan were both asked to be in All Stars, but both declined.

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                    tofuburrito Dec 1, 2010 06:42 AM

                    Got Blais in the fantasy draft, I think my chances are good.

                    1. re: sibeats
                      iL Divo Dec 1, 2010 09:59 AM

                      Im surprised Stefan declined as I'm sure his ego would have enjoyed another season. Maybe too much drama for two talented chefs

                    2. iL Divo Dec 1, 2010 04:48 AM

                      I always liked Marcel, I didn't say his hair so much tho. Think he has unique talent, that's a positive

                      1. mattstolz Nov 30, 2010 01:05 PM

                        when we're talking about "last season" here, are ya'll referring to just desserts or season 7 of top chef?

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                          AMFM Nov 30, 2010 01:10 PM

                          season 7

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                          AMFM Nov 30, 2010 12:44 PM

                          not REALLY any spoilers in this. interesting that they're getting even showier. not sure i'll like that but i'll still watch...

                          http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch...

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                          1. re: AMFM
                            LindaWhit Nov 30, 2010 01:00 PM

                            Paula Deen as a guest? ::::gritting my teeth::::

                            Tony had better be on that episode - I wanna hear his snark. :-)

                            1. re: LindaWhit
                              JuniorBalloon Nov 30, 2010 01:24 PM

                              Paula and Tony mud wrestle for oysters. You heard it here.

                              jb

                              1. re: LindaWhit
                                goodhealthgourmet Nov 30, 2010 01:48 PM

                                "Tony had better be on that episode - I wanna hear his snark. :-)"
                                ~~~~~~~
                                now *that* should be fun :)

                                1. re: LindaWhit
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                                  CocoaNut Nov 30, 2010 02:07 PM

                                  Why oh why would they pull her no-nothing cackle in to ruin even one episode?

                                  1. re: CocoaNut
                                    Sandwich_Sister Dec 1, 2010 05:50 AM

                                    maybe they have a butter elimination challenge.

                                    1. re: Sandwich_Sister
                                      phee Dec 1, 2010 11:29 AM

                                      +10 on a scale of 1-10 for that one!

                              2. applehome Nov 30, 2010 08:06 AM

                                Hey LindaWhit - you are gonna run your synopses again aren't you? Please? I'm away from cable and any decent Internet for downloading for a while so I may be relying on your detailed commentary! Thanks so much.

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                                1. re: applehome
                                  LindaWhit Nov 30, 2010 08:33 AM

                                  LOL! If folks want me to do so, I guess I can start that up again. :-)

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                                    jujuthomas Nov 30, 2010 08:35 AM

                                    oh, please do Linda!

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                                      Claudette Nov 30, 2010 01:02 PM

                                      LindaWhit - you're the greatest! TIA! Your synopses were the best thing about last season's snore of a show...

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                                        jeanmarieok Nov 30, 2010 03:17 PM

                                        Yes, please do it! Thanks in advance!

                                        1. re: LindaWhit
                                          phee Dec 1, 2010 11:30 AM

                                          YES, PLEASE!

                                      2. John E. Nov 29, 2010 09:10 PM

                                        I'll have to watch a couple episodes of this all-star TC before I can pick a favorite. I do have some that I think are not too likable, at least they weren't in their TC appearances, they are in no particular order: Spike, Mike, Stephen and Marcel. I found each of them to be annoying for differing reasons. Out of the other 14, some I like and others I don't care one way or another. An interesting part of this new TC is that we won't have to spend the first several episodes trying to remember who is who. (In season 6 I think it was about the 4th episode before I could reliably figure out which Voltaggio brother was on screen).

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                                          yummfood Nov 29, 2010 05:12 PM

                                          I cannot wait until season 8 begins! I, like a lot other hounds, was pretty disappointed with season 7...didn't really have a favorite cheftestant.
                                          For the upcoming season I'm rooting for Jen from Season 6. That was absolutely my favorite season, and wouldn't have minded if any of the top 4--Brian V., Michael V., Kevin, or Jen--won.
                                          Can't wait for the show to start and being able to come onto Chowhound to read everyones' thoughts! 3 more days!

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                                            ediblover Nov 29, 2010 01:25 PM

                                            Bravo has some preview clips up. The first quickfire is to team up with the chef(s) from your season and cook the season/location's food. The elimination seems to be recreating the dish that got the chef eliminated.

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                                            1. re: ediblover
                                              Sandwich_Sister Nov 29, 2010 02:14 PM

                                              Hah! That is a double blow isn't it. Being eliminated first and getting eliminated for the same dish that sent you home in the first place.

                                              Should be a pretty good episode, nerves of steel, balls of brass, and vah jay jays of diamonds.

                                            2. mattstolz Nov 29, 2010 11:52 AM

                                              so excited for the premier on wed! DVR is set to go (even though theres no way im gunna miss it! haha)

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                                                jujuthomas Nov 29, 2010 11:02 AM

                                                my dvr is set and ready to go! yipee!

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                                                  CocoaNut Nov 29, 2010 10:51 AM

                                                  I am really happy to see that Tiffany Derry is one of the "uh-oh's" that are returning. Her undoing on season 7 was a quirk of bad luck with a malfunctioning refrigerator turned rogue freezer. Adding insult to injury, Dallas news recently reported that the owners of her "Go Fish" restaurant, closed up and stole away in the night leaving her and her staff in a bewildered quandary.

                                                  Edit: just looked at all who will be returning. This is going to be a fun (provide your own definition of "fun) season, for sure!
                                                  http://www.bravotv.com/top-chef/seaso...

                                                  1. TheKitchenHotline Nov 29, 2010 10:43 AM

                                                    The only Top Chef I enjoy is Top Chef Masters. And give me Iron Chef any day over anything else. I don't care about personalities, I care about food.

                                                    1. ChefJune Nov 29, 2010 10:39 AM

                                                      There are so many really talented chefs in this All-Star round, it's hard to pick a favorite. For me the sentimental favorite is Tre, because I think he definitely went home too soon for us to really have seen what he can do.

                                                      My least favorite in this bunch is Casey. I never saw what was so wonderful about her in the first place.

                                                      If I were a betting person, I'd put some $$ on Tiffani. Having eaten her food this past spring, I'd say that she has probably grown as a chef by a lot since Season 1, and she was a monster then.

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                                                      1. re: ChefJune
                                                        Sandwich_Sister Nov 29, 2010 10:52 AM

                                                        I agree about Casey.

                                                        and having missed the first season I never got to know Tiffani F. until she won tan All Star event which was a 1 day cooking challenge.

                                                        1. re: Sandwich_Sister
                                                          Sandwich_Sister Nov 29, 2010 02:33 PM

                                                          I meant to say an All Star even not tan, she is far from tan. lol

                                                        2. re: ChefJune
                                                          chowser Dec 1, 2010 04:14 AM

                                                          I think Casey is there because of the drama she created with messing up Carla in her finale. Drama sells.

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                                                            iL Divo Dec 1, 2010 04:25 AM

                                                            But her talent doesn't go quite as far

                                                            1. re: iL Divo
                                                              John E. Dec 1, 2010 10:04 AM

                                                              She was in the finale for TC Season 3 so she must have had some cooking talent.

                                                              1. re: John E.
                                                                iL Divo Dec 4, 2010 08:47 AM

                                                                we all see things differently. I did wonder how she'd gotten there. the finale...

                                                                1. re: iL Divo
                                                                  John E. Dec 4, 2010 11:13 AM

                                                                  I think there have been others in the finale (or close) less deserving than Casey. Lisa Fernandez (season 4) comes to mind or Elia (2).

                                                                  1. re: John E.
                                                                    Sandwich_Sister Dec 4, 2010 11:20 AM

                                                                    You know Casey this first episode really did make me like her. I was a little bitter over the Carla thing and I believe I read an interview where Casey came off nasty in it after that. But so far she's doing well, got major props from Gail and has buried the Hatchet with Carla.

                                                                    Agreed on Elia

                                                            2. re: chowser
                                                              Sandwich_Sister Dec 4, 2010 08:59 AM

                                                              I wasn't a fan of Casey after the Carla thing but this first episode has me thinking twice about her skills and talent. She did very well on her season, and I liked her then.

                                                              Gail gave her props for her dish she was from what it sounds like scored pretty high. I think the Carla thing was just circumstance and bad luck. I don't think you can play the blame game, Carla messed up by not cooking her food and Casey messed up for pushing her to do so.

                                                              I'm glad that it looks like that hatchet is buried though.

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                                                            ediblover Nov 29, 2010 09:40 AM

                                                            Kenny has to be the most overrated chef in TC history. For all his talk about being a beast in the kitchen, he didn't perform all that well in the challenges.

                                                            I think this is Jennifer's to lose. I'm sure a lot has changed, but in terms of what I saw on the shows, I can't put anyone in the same tier as her. To add to the top four, I'll guess Marcel, Richard and Dale Talde (the wild card pick).

                                                            One of chefs I want to see for a while will probably get sent home first - Doesn't it usually turn out that way? So, Jamie, Stephen or Fabio.

                                                            1. huiray Nov 29, 2010 09:23 AM

                                                              Jennifer appears to have gone home early.
                                                              http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.c...

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                                                              1. re: huiray
                                                                Sandwich_Sister Nov 29, 2010 10:49 AM

                                                                Could or could not, that is just one person reporting but she can let pressure get to her. I'm still routing for her.

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                                                                  christy1122 Nov 29, 2010 10:55 AM

                                                                  If you are going to put spoilers in a post, please list it in the title...

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                                                                    Sandwich_Sister Nov 29, 2010 10:59 AM

                                                                    agreed, however I'm not so certain this is a spoiler.

                                                                    It's a link where one person swears they can confirm chefs they saw and couldn't even remember 2 of the girls names, then another person quotes it and says Jen is one who was eliminated. Sounds sketchy to me.

                                                                    Don't believe everything that you read. :P

                                                                    1. re: Sandwich_Sister
                                                                      LindaWhit Nov 30, 2010 05:03 AM

                                                                      It doesn't matter. huiray *could* have said "there's interesting reading over at TWoP - but warning - there *could* be spoilers there!" That way, people can CHOOSE whether or not to go to that link.

                                                                      The way huiray has written it, s/he's named a specific person in THIS thread. So s/he takes away the element of surprise AND choice for those of us who DO NOT want to have the show spoiled for us.

                                                                      1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                        Sandwich_Sister Nov 30, 2010 05:36 AM

                                                                        Agreed.

                                                                  2. re: huiray
                                                                    LindaWhit Nov 30, 2010 05:00 AM

                                                                    OK, can you please NOT post any spoilers like this in this thread? I'd really like to watch the show without any spoilers being noted - whether true or not. Thanks a LOT!

                                                                    1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                      huiray Nov 30, 2010 03:28 PM

                                                                      Apologies.

                                                                      As an aside, though, these Bravo cooking shows to me have become just dramatainment with gross manipulation of the viewing public anyway. They weren't as blatant in this way once. I'll watch, but no longer expect to learn anything useful in way of actual technique or cooking.

                                                                      1. re: huiray
                                                                        John E. Nov 30, 2010 04:56 PM

                                                                        While I did't watch all of the TC seasons, I've enough of the reruns going back to the first season to realize that TC has never been really about cooking techniques and a learning situation for the viewers.

                                                                        1. re: John E.
                                                                          huiray Nov 30, 2010 05:56 PM

                                                                          "TC has never been really about cooking techniques and a learning situation for the viewers"
                                                                          --------
                                                                          I never said it wasn't. I said it used to be less blatantly dramatainment-y in nature overall, even though seasons 2 and 5 were pretty 'up there' in dramatainment. I could actually learn a few things in past seasons. Now, essentially nothing.

                                                                          1. re: huiray
                                                                            John E. Nov 30, 2010 06:13 PM

                                                                            I guess my point was that I haven't learned much about actual cooking from any of the TC shows.

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                                                                              momjamin Dec 1, 2010 07:04 AM

                                                                              Season 1, episode 1, had drama guy Ken.
                                                                              Season 1 also had the 30 minute spat between Stephen and Camille (?) where she called him a tool and a douche bag.
                                                                              That's entertainment! :-P

                                                                        2. re: LindaWhit
                                                                          gaffk Nov 30, 2010 03:42 PM

                                                                          You think that's a spoiler? First, there were two women whose names she couldn't remember (maybe Jaime? Maybe Jen? Who knows?)

                                                                          Second, it could have been a restaurant wars competition, where 1/2 go food shopping and 1/2 go dish shopping.

                                                                          I saw nothing there to spoil the show. It's not like the first Masters when I knew Rick Bayliss won before the first episode even aired (and he had given the charity the $ already).

                                                                          1. re: gaffk
                                                                            LindaWhit Nov 30, 2010 03:54 PM

                                                                            Look - I didn't read the link huiray posted. But I *did* read what huiray wrote HERE. S/he specifically said one of the TC All Stars. And yes - that is a potential spoiler. Not sure how you can't see that name someone who "is off the show early" isn't a spoiler? And then the fact that YOU just gave another name - well, thanks again.

                                                                            I don't WANT to know who is gone ahead of time and there are many people who also don't want to know. That's why the TC threads always always ALWAYS have the word "spoiler" in the subject line, so anyone who doesn't want to know then knows *not* to read the thread until they've seen that particular episode.

                                                                            And yes, whoever posted that Bayless had won pissed me off THEN, too. It was removed (and I recall reporting the blatant spoiler as well), so the entire TCM was partially ruined in knowing who won.

                                                                            1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                              gaffk Nov 30, 2010 05:31 PM

                                                                              Wow, you really take your "reality" tv seriously. Me, not so much.

                                                                              And how did I give another name? "Maybe Jen? Maybe Jaimie? Who knows" I haven't seen the first episode, haven't been at the NYC market, don't know who survives the first week and who goes to the finale.

                                                                              It could have been a restaurant wars competition, where 1/2 go food shopping and 1/2 go dish shopping. That's the attraction of non-"reality" tv.

                                                                              1. re: gaffk
                                                                                LindaWhit Nov 30, 2010 05:44 PM

                                                                                Fine, you don't take it seriously. It's not life-changing for me, but I do like to watch it as it happens without prior knowledge. I don't go to movies already knowing what's going to happen by having read all about it ahead of time - I'd hazard a guess that 99.9% of people who go to the movies feel the same way. So why ruin Top Chef for others who wish to see the show unfold as it does without any spoilers?

                                                                                1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                  gaffk Nov 30, 2010 06:06 PM

                                                                                  OK, my T'giving rule is to not be argumentative. But why do you think I spoil your pleasure? There have been no real spoilers. I don't yuck somebody's yum. If you think I have prior knowledge, I don't. I am really non-judgmental, and just conjecturing at this point with no prior knowledge of any episodes

                                                                                  1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                    Sandwich_Sister Dec 1, 2010 05:49 AM

                                                                                    I think what he's trying to say is that there is no validity to the spoiler. So don't sweat it. :P

                                                                                    1. re: Sandwich_Sister
                                                                                      gaffk Dec 1, 2010 03:50 PM

                                                                                      Thanks sister. I was trying to say:
                                                                                      !) no validity to the spoiler
                                                                                      2)spoiler didn't know the names of two of the female contestants, so there's no way to know who was or wasn't there
                                                                                      3)spoiler didn't know the nature of the challenge; it may have been one where only a subset went to the market

                                                                                      Looking forward to 10 pm!

                                                                                    2. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                      gaffk Dec 1, 2010 05:07 PM

                                                                                      You never went to a movie based on a book you have already read?

                                                                                      1. re: gaffk
                                                                                        LindaWhit Dec 1, 2010 05:21 PM

                                                                                        Within the last 35 or so years? No. Not that I can recall.

                                                                                        1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                          goodhealthgourmet Dec 1, 2010 05:22 PM

                                                                                          there's no point - the book is always better!

                                                                                          1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                            gaffk Dec 1, 2010 05:25 PM

                                                                                            Let's call a truce. Please? This is pointless and I don't want to argue.

                                                                                            1. re: gaffk
                                                                                              LindaWhit Dec 1, 2010 05:32 PM

                                                                                              You asked a question and I answered it. Not sure how that's arguing, but OK.

                                                                                              I would still like to suggest that if anyone knows of potential spoilers, they NOT be posted in various threads about the TC-AS episodes, but as a separate thread with a link so people can *choose* to click the link - or not.

                                                                                              1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                                gaffk Dec 5, 2010 04:37 PM

                                                                                                The all caps was yelling, the asterisks were snarky, to my way of on-line reading. But I get it, the TC threads are different. So noted.

                                                                                                1. re: gaffk
                                                                                                  LindaWhit Dec 5, 2010 05:29 PM

                                                                                                  Both are used for emphasis, since we don't have the ability to bold, underline or use italicization here. I'm pretty sure both methods are used elsewhere on the Internet where a website uses simple text, as is done here on CH.

                                                                                                  1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                                    Sandwich_Sister Dec 5, 2010 05:59 PM

                                                                                                    Oh for the love of all things holy please just stop. This is getting ridiculous.

                                                                                                    Both of you are egging each other on and yes I think it's the words YOU chose to emphasis that makes your post sound rather snarky.

                                                                                                    See what I did there :P

                                                                                                    He offered a truce so just take it and be done with it.

                                                                                                    1. re: Sandwich_Sister
                                                                                                      gaffk Dec 5, 2010 06:13 PM

                                                                                                      Yes, thanks sandwich ;) No more postings for me on anything TC related.

                                                                                              2. re: gaffk
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                                                                                                Lizard Dec 4, 2010 04:49 AM

                                                                                                But, gaffk, you wrote, "Wow, you really take your "reality" tv seriously. Me, not so much."

                                                                                                That struck me, an impartial observer, as a bit aggressive. I'm glad you've decided to call a truce, but perhaps in the future, you might consider the choice of words in framing your replies?

                                                                                                People watch the show and enjoy the contest part, especially as it allows for speculation, etc. Spoilers are called so for their ability to spoil the suspense of particular dramas. And, if as we have already noted, the ability to teach and demonstrate technique is limited, this is a significant part of the viewing.

                                                                                                And yes, spoilers may not be reliable, but they should still be prefaced and people warned off as a simple matter of civility. That said, I appreciate how the etiquette of television-based discussions may not be familiar to people on a food board. Perhaps it is then simply respectful to adhere to that etiquette when the discussion is television-related.

                                                                                                Finally, the comparison of film/novel adaptations is not an effective one. This is an entirely different issue and both forms offer their own discrete pleasures and one can easily watch a film for what it will offer, regardless of our knowing in the outcome. In that case, I cite Aristotle, who in the Poetics noted that a good story is one that can be told and told again. Moreover, the variations in adaptations and the choices made add something. This is a significantly different experience than something that is predominantly contest (the narrative of this show is based entirely on the question 'Who will be Top Chef?'

                                                                                                That said, I have watched episodes knowing the outcome, but personally, i still prefer to hone my television reading skills by guessing outcomes based on editing, attention, and the creation of a dramatic narrative.

                                                                                                To each their own, yes? And perhaps, just as with food, we try not to denigrate the tastes and tendencies of others?

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                                                                                  gfweb1 Nov 30, 2010 05:36 PM

                                                                                  nice

                                                                                  really nice

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                                                                                    iL Divo Dec 1, 2010 12:22 PM

                                                                                    Was Jennifer the ne that said she was "in the weeds" a few times? Good cook tho as I remember

                                                                                  2. chris2269 Nov 29, 2010 08:00 AM

                                                                                    I agree with your assessments of the top tier. I would say Tre interests me the most as far as potential, he was a strong contender on his season and was sent home for hazing Marcel rather than his food.

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                                                                                      WNYamateur Nov 29, 2010 08:46 AM

                                                                                      Cliff was sent home for hazing Marcel, not Tre. Tre went home - generally thought prematurely - for bad potatoes and leadership in Restaurant Wars.

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                                                                                        goodhealthgourmet Nov 29, 2010 08:46 AM

                                                                                        actually, Tre's undoing was bread pudding, not potatoes. i'm very much looking forward to his redemption!

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                                                                                          chris2269 Nov 29, 2010 09:11 AM

                                                                                          Wonder how I confused the two...I don't even remamber Cliff.

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                                                                                            Shrinkrap Dec 5, 2010 04:51 PM

                                                                                            Umm....two black guys? You can say it....but maybe that wasn't it.

                                                                                    2. goodhealthgourmet Nov 29, 2010 07:40 AM

                                                                                      definitely excited, but cautiously so...this needs to be a pretty spectacular season to make up for that train wreck in DC. what a disappointment!

                                                                                      random observation for any of you who watch Top Chef *and* The Next Iron Chef. i had a realization the other day when i caught a clip of a TNIC repeat...Mary Dumont totally reminds me of Tiffani Faison!

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                                                                                        LindaWhit Nov 30, 2010 05:00 AM

                                                                                        Ditto on definitely excited. I'm really hoping with this lineup, this will be heads and tails above TC-DC. ANYTHING will be better.

                                                                                        I'm not going to make any predictions...there's definitely a group of "won't make it", definitely a group of "how the HELL did they make it?" and I suspect, based on a few interviews I've read, there will be a couple of eliminations early on that are going to surprise the hell out of the viewers (as it "WTF are they THINKING by eliminating him/her?")

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                                                                                          iL Divo Dec 1, 2010 04:29 AM

                                                                                          Altho I'm commenting on a different show, the above about how the he!! Did they make it is what I think about the other train wreck He!!$ Kitchen, which isn't worth my time or effort

                                                                                      2. Sandwich_Sister Nov 29, 2010 07:18 AM

                                                                                        Okay no one has commented on this yet and the premier is Wednesday! I can't wait.

                                                                                        Who do you think is first to go home?
                                                                                        Who looks like they could be the top 4?

                                                                                        Elia or Stephen I think could be the first to go home.

                                                                                        Blais, Marcel, Jennifer in the top maybe along with Tiffani F. or Mike I.

                                                                                        and Anthony Bourdain Returns!

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