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Nov 22, 2010 01:49 PM

Top Chef Season 8 !!

I cannot wait until Top Chef Season 8 (December 1st). All of the chefs in the competition are extremely talented. No chefs cannot cook this time, everyone has tons of skill. I am excited to see how Marcel does. He was Michael Voltaggio's sous chef at The Bazaar after his Season 2 performance. I have a feeling that Marcel is much more talented now then when he was on Season 2.

I think the top competitors will be Richard, Jennifer, Angelo, and Tiffani Faison. They are my pick for the top four. Richard and Angelo should have won their season, but choked in the finally.

The All Stars are great, but some of the best chefs in Top Chef were left out (Kevin Gillespie, Bryan Voltaggio, Stefan, and Kenny) :(

Who do you guys think will be the toughest competitors?

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  1. Okay no one has commented on this yet and the premier is Wednesday! I can't wait.

    Who do you think is first to go home?
    Who looks like they could be the top 4?

    Elia or Stephen I think could be the first to go home.

    Blais, Marcel, Jennifer in the top maybe along with Tiffani F. or Mike I.

    and Anthony Bourdain Returns!

    1. definitely excited, but cautiously so...this needs to be a pretty spectacular season to make up for that train wreck in DC. what a disappointment!

      random observation for any of you who watch Top Chef *and* The Next Iron Chef. i had a realization the other day when i caught a clip of a TNIC repeat...Mary Dumont totally reminds me of Tiffani Faison!

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      1. re: goodhealthgourmet

        Ditto on definitely excited. I'm really hoping with this lineup, this will be heads and tails above TC-DC. ANYTHING will be better.

        I'm not going to make any predictions...there's definitely a group of "won't make it", definitely a group of "how the HELL did they make it?" and I suspect, based on a few interviews I've read, there will be a couple of eliminations early on that are going to surprise the hell out of the viewers (as it "WTF are they THINKING by eliminating him/her?")

        1. re: LindaWhit

          Altho I'm commenting on a different show, the above about how the he!! Did they make it is what I think about the other train wreck He!!$ Kitchen, which isn't worth my time or effort

      2. I agree with your assessments of the top tier. I would say Tre interests me the most as far as potential, he was a strong contender on his season and was sent home for hazing Marcel rather than his food.

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        1. re: chris2269

          Cliff was sent home for hazing Marcel, not Tre. Tre went home - generally thought prematurely - for bad potatoes and leadership in Restaurant Wars.

          1. re: WNYamateur

            actually, Tre's undoing was bread pudding, not potatoes. i'm very much looking forward to his redemption!

            1. re: goodhealthgourmet

              Wonder how I confused the two...I don't even remamber Cliff.

              1. re: chris2269

                Umm....two black guys? You can say it....but maybe that wasn't it.

          1. re: huiray

            Could or could not, that is just one person reporting but she can let pressure get to her. I'm still routing for her.

            1. re: huiray

              If you are going to put spoilers in a post, please list it in the title...

              1. re: christy1122

                agreed, however I'm not so certain this is a spoiler.

                It's a link where one person swears they can confirm chefs they saw and couldn't even remember 2 of the girls names, then another person quotes it and says Jen is one who was eliminated. Sounds sketchy to me.

                Don't believe everything that you read. :P

                1. re: Sandwich_Sister

                  It doesn't matter. huiray *could* have said "there's interesting reading over at TWoP - but warning - there *could* be spoilers there!" That way, people can CHOOSE whether or not to go to that link.

                  The way huiray has written it, s/he's named a specific person in THIS thread. So s/he takes away the element of surprise AND choice for those of us who DO NOT want to have the show spoiled for us.

              2. re: huiray

                OK, can you please NOT post any spoilers like this in this thread? I'd really like to watch the show without any spoilers being noted - whether true or not. Thanks a LOT!

                1. re: LindaWhit


                  As an aside, though, these Bravo cooking shows to me have become just dramatainment with gross manipulation of the viewing public anyway. They weren't as blatant in this way once. I'll watch, but no longer expect to learn anything useful in way of actual technique or cooking.

                  1. re: huiray

                    While I did't watch all of the TC seasons, I've enough of the reruns going back to the first season to realize that TC has never been really about cooking techniques and a learning situation for the viewers.

                    1. re: John E.

                      "TC has never been really about cooking techniques and a learning situation for the viewers"
                      I never said it wasn't. I said it used to be less blatantly dramatainment-y in nature overall, even though seasons 2 and 5 were pretty 'up there' in dramatainment. I could actually learn a few things in past seasons. Now, essentially nothing.

                      1. re: huiray

                        I guess my point was that I haven't learned much about actual cooking from any of the TC shows.

                        1. re: huiray

                          Season 1, episode 1, had drama guy Ken.
                          Season 1 also had the 30 minute spat between Stephen and Camille (?) where she called him a tool and a douche bag.
                          That's entertainment! :-P

                    2. re: LindaWhit

                      You think that's a spoiler? First, there were two women whose names she couldn't remember (maybe Jaime? Maybe Jen? Who knows?)

                      Second, it could have been a restaurant wars competition, where 1/2 go food shopping and 1/2 go dish shopping.

                      I saw nothing there to spoil the show. It's not like the first Masters when I knew Rick Bayliss won before the first episode even aired (and he had given the charity the $ already).

                      1. re: gaffk

                        Look - I didn't read the link huiray posted. But I *did* read what huiray wrote HERE. S/he specifically said one of the TC All Stars. And yes - that is a potential spoiler. Not sure how you can't see that name someone who "is off the show early" isn't a spoiler? And then the fact that YOU just gave another name - well, thanks again.

                        I don't WANT to know who is gone ahead of time and there are many people who also don't want to know. That's why the TC threads always always ALWAYS have the word "spoiler" in the subject line, so anyone who doesn't want to know then knows *not* to read the thread until they've seen that particular episode.

                        And yes, whoever posted that Bayless had won pissed me off THEN, too. It was removed (and I recall reporting the blatant spoiler as well), so the entire TCM was partially ruined in knowing who won.

                        1. re: LindaWhit

                          Wow, you really take your "reality" tv seriously. Me, not so much.

                          And how did I give another name? "Maybe Jen? Maybe Jaimie? Who knows" I haven't seen the first episode, haven't been at the NYC market, don't know who survives the first week and who goes to the finale.

                          It could have been a restaurant wars competition, where 1/2 go food shopping and 1/2 go dish shopping. That's the attraction of non-"reality" tv.

                          1. re: gaffk

                            Fine, you don't take it seriously. It's not life-changing for me, but I do like to watch it as it happens without prior knowledge. I don't go to movies already knowing what's going to happen by having read all about it ahead of time - I'd hazard a guess that 99.9% of people who go to the movies feel the same way. So why ruin Top Chef for others who wish to see the show unfold as it does without any spoilers?

                            1. re: LindaWhit

                              OK, my T'giving rule is to not be argumentative. But why do you think I spoil your pleasure? There have been no real spoilers. I don't yuck somebody's yum. If you think I have prior knowledge, I don't. I am really non-judgmental, and just conjecturing at this point with no prior knowledge of any episodes

                              1. re: LindaWhit

                                I think what he's trying to say is that there is no validity to the spoiler. So don't sweat it. :P

                                1. re: Sandwich_Sister

                                  Thanks sister. I was trying to say:
                                  !) no validity to the spoiler
                                  2)spoiler didn't know the names of two of the female contestants, so there's no way to know who was or wasn't there
                                  3)spoiler didn't know the nature of the challenge; it may have been one where only a subset went to the market

                                  Looking forward to 10 pm!

                                2. re: LindaWhit

                                  You never went to a movie based on a book you have already read?

                                  1. re: gaffk

                                    Within the last 35 or so years? No. Not that I can recall.

                                    1. re: LindaWhit

                                      there's no point - the book is always better!

                                      1. re: LindaWhit

                                        Let's call a truce. Please? This is pointless and I don't want to argue.

                                        1. re: gaffk

                                          You asked a question and I answered it. Not sure how that's arguing, but OK.

                                          I would still like to suggest that if anyone knows of potential spoilers, they NOT be posted in various threads about the TC-AS episodes, but as a separate thread with a link so people can *choose* to click the link - or not.

                                          1. re: LindaWhit

                                            The all caps was yelling, the asterisks were snarky, to my way of on-line reading. But I get it, the TC threads are different. So noted.

                                            1. re: gaffk

                                              Both are used for emphasis, since we don't have the ability to bold, underline or use italicization here. I'm pretty sure both methods are used elsewhere on the Internet where a website uses simple text, as is done here on CH.

                                              1. re: LindaWhit

                                                Oh for the love of all things holy please just stop. This is getting ridiculous.

                                                Both of you are egging each other on and yes I think it's the words YOU chose to emphasis that makes your post sound rather snarky.

                                                See what I did there :P

                                                He offered a truce so just take it and be done with it.

                                                1. re: Sandwich_Sister

                                                  Yes, thanks sandwich ;) No more postings for me on anything TC related.

                                          2. re: gaffk

                                            But, gaffk, you wrote, "Wow, you really take your "reality" tv seriously. Me, not so much."

                                            That struck me, an impartial observer, as a bit aggressive. I'm glad you've decided to call a truce, but perhaps in the future, you might consider the choice of words in framing your replies?

                                            People watch the show and enjoy the contest part, especially as it allows for speculation, etc. Spoilers are called so for their ability to spoil the suspense of particular dramas. And, if as we have already noted, the ability to teach and demonstrate technique is limited, this is a significant part of the viewing.

                                            And yes, spoilers may not be reliable, but they should still be prefaced and people warned off as a simple matter of civility. That said, I appreciate how the etiquette of television-based discussions may not be familiar to people on a food board. Perhaps it is then simply respectful to adhere to that etiquette when the discussion is television-related.

                                            Finally, the comparison of film/novel adaptations is not an effective one. This is an entirely different issue and both forms offer their own discrete pleasures and one can easily watch a film for what it will offer, regardless of our knowing in the outcome. In that case, I cite Aristotle, who in the Poetics noted that a good story is one that can be told and told again. Moreover, the variations in adaptations and the choices made add something. This is a significantly different experience than something that is predominantly contest (the narrative of this show is based entirely on the question 'Who will be Top Chef?'

                                            That said, I have watched episodes knowing the outcome, but personally, i still prefer to hone my television reading skills by guessing outcomes based on editing, attention, and the creation of a dramatic narrative.

                                            To each their own, yes? And perhaps, just as with food, we try not to denigrate the tastes and tendencies of others?

                              1. re: huiray

                                Was Jennifer the ne that said she was "in the weeds" a few times? Good cook tho as I remember

                              2. Kenny has to be the most overrated chef in TC history. For all his talk about being a beast in the kitchen, he didn't perform all that well in the challenges.

                                I think this is Jennifer's to lose. I'm sure a lot has changed, but in terms of what I saw on the shows, I can't put anyone in the same tier as her. To add to the top four, I'll guess Marcel, Richard and Dale Talde (the wild card pick).

                                One of chefs I want to see for a while will probably get sent home first - Doesn't it usually turn out that way? So, Jamie, Stephen or Fabio.