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habsfan110 Nov 20, 2010 08:22 AM

Are there any real French/Italian pastries in the city?

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    kathryn RE: habsfan110 Nov 20, 2010 08:38 AM

    French pastry: Payard, Claude, Madeleine, La Bergamote, Ceci-Cela, Petrossian, Financier, Lady M, Balthazar

    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/668364
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/427572
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/714016

    Italian pastry: Veniero's (though they are hit or miss), Rocco (good cannoli), Bruno (mini-cakes and the sfogliatelle have been rec'd here), Stuffed Artisan Cannolis, DeRoberti's. But overall Manhattan isn't as strong in Italian pastries. Try Villabate, on 18th Ave and 70th Street in Brooklyn's Bensonhurst.
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/446213

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    Ceci-Cela
    55 Spring St, New York, NY 10012

    Veniero's
    342 E 11th St, New York, NY 10003

    Petrossian
    182 W 58th St, New York, NY 10019

    La Bergamote
    515 W 52nd St, New York, NY 10019

    Stuffed Artisan Cannolis
    176 Stanton St, New York, NY 10002

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      Striver RE: kathryn Nov 20, 2010 01:34 PM

      I'd add Bouchon Bakery in the TWC to the French list, although I'd say they're more "French style". They're good, whatever you decide to call them.

      For Italian, I'm with Kathryn - the best is in BX and BK - and since we're in the Bronx, we normally get our fix at De Lillo's or Morrone's in the Arthur Ave. area.

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      Bouchon Bakery
      10 Columbus Cir, New York, NY 10019

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        kathryn RE: Striver Nov 20, 2010 03:36 PM

        "French style with heavy American influence" perhaps? Bouchon's selection doesn't really align with what people think of when they think French pastry. I think also Bouchon is pretty hit or miss dependent upon what you get.

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          Striver RE: kathryn Nov 20, 2010 07:14 PM

          Had a lemon tart from Bouchon last night that was excellent, but agree that everything is not always that good (and yes, they're not truly French - in fact, my favorite item is their completely non-French bacon/cheddar scone which makes a nice weekend breakfast, although not as good as Sullivan Street's savory brioche - which I guess is also "French-syle" but not French :)).

    2. erica RE: habsfan110 Nov 20, 2010 09:37 AM

      What kind of Italian pastries are you seeking?

      Agree that the best will probably not be in Manhattan...

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        habsfan110 RE: erica Nov 20, 2010 10:19 AM

        Then where would the best probably be?

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          erica RE: habsfan110 Nov 20, 2010 12:33 PM

          Well, unfortunately, I have not tried all the possibilities in Manhattan, or anywhere else, but I can tell you that every couple of months I make a pilgrimage to Arthur Avenue in the Bronx where there is a large concentration of good bakeries, along with all sorts of great food shops. My main goal there is Borgatti, for fresh pasta, but I do a quite a bit of damage at the assorted bakeries and cheese shops...

          The best ones for you would depend on the type of baked items you are seeking; I am currently in the throes of an addiction to Madonia chocolate biscotti (they are also strong on breads and are but one of many meccas in this stretch of blocks) but I am am always open to new ideas--faithful I am not, in this regard..

          Please see the wonderful ideas here:

          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/679219

          I have a mild infatuation for Palermo Pastry in Mill Basin, Brooklyn (pignoli cookies) but that is a bit far for me to put in regular rotation (you should have a car, I think)

          Villabate not too very far away also gets raves for Sicilian style sweets.

          http://www.villabate.net/index.html

          And then you have the Court Street area---look here at a recent thread I started--not limited to Italian baked goods, but full of good tips:

          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/737915

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        michelleats RE: habsfan110 Nov 20, 2010 12:43 PM

        Il Cantuccio makes authentic Italian biscotti in the West Village and bready, dense, Italian style croissants.

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        Il Cantuccio
        91 Christopher St, New York, NY 10014

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          citykid426 RE: michelleats Nov 20, 2010 04:07 PM

          Patisserie Claude on W. 4th street. Great quiche and great croissants.

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          Patisserie Claude
          187 W 4th St, New York, NY 10014

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            michelleats RE: citykid426 Nov 20, 2010 05:22 PM

            They DO make great mini quiches.

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              habsfan110 RE: citykid426 Nov 21, 2010 09:47 AM

              are there chocolate cakes there?

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