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Lunch "down da Lake": Babalicous and Antoine's

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Blumie Nov 13, 2010 02:33 PM

First things first: anyone know why the Nonantum neighborhood of Newton is called "The Lake"? When I was a kid growing up in Newton, I'm not sure even knew it was called Nonantume; we all called it "da Lake."

I had a meeting in Newton yesterday afternoon, so I decided to cut through "da Lake" for a banh mi from Bobalicious. It was delicious. Not as good as the Super 88, but very good nonetheless.

I then made the mistage of going across the street to Antoine's. Was this place ever good, or did I just think it was good when I was a kid? I tried a raspberry turnover and an M&M cookie, both of which sucked! Is their famous strawberry cake still good (if it ever was)?

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308 Watertown St, Newton, MA 02458

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    Blumie Nov 13, 2010 02:36 PM

    Answering my own question:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonantum...

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      StriperGuy Nov 14, 2010 12:17 AM

      Nice on the History. I love MA lore like that.

      "Gotta love that 1950s development mindset. Huh, pond, sure, let's just pave it over."

      On the Antoine's part I'm with ya. Never understood. Though from past postings I gather there are some things they do well. Ohlin's in Belmont has the same issue. Most stuff just sucks, but some of their donuts and breakfast pastry are okay.

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        overproofed Nov 15, 2010 07:42 AM

        Antoine's cinnamon bread is good. Makes great French toast. I never buy anything else there.

        You can still see references to the former Silver Lake in some Nonantum business names.

      2. re: Blumie
        StriperGuy Nov 15, 2010 07:53 AM

        Okay definitely small world... was out to dinner with several chowhounds, one from Newton, last night and she mentioned the lake in Nonantum. Heck she remembered when they paved it over and said, "heck back then they paved everything over, their back yards, ponds whatever...

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        gourmaniac Nov 15, 2010 08:24 AM

        I like their almond biscotti but most of the stuff in the case isn't special.

        1. Allstonian Nov 15, 2010 08:25 AM

          I'm certainly partial to the strawberry cake; I also like the bismarks and the eclairs (and I have a hard time finding an eclair that I like around Boston nowadays.) In the proper season their zeppole are not as good as Modern's but are pretty darn good.

          I have to say that I haven't had a good turnover *anyplace* in many, many years.

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            Ralphie_in_Boston Nov 15, 2010 09:11 AM

            I'm in the "depends on what ya get" camp re Antoine's. Their eclairs, pasticciotti and Italian cookies are good. Most of the rest....isn't.

            I also overhead the owner talking about trying to sell the place one of the more recent times I was in there, which might mean their heart isn't in it. But I'm still a fan overall-It's a tough business

            1. BoDubya Nov 15, 2010 01:15 PM

              i have a nice paved back yard in the lake and was recently called a "mush" at buffs pub.

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                StriperGuy Nov 15, 2010 03:38 PM

                Wow... what's a "mush?"

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                  burny carbo Nov 15, 2010 04:26 PM

                  A 'mush' is a slang term for 'guy' or 'buddy'. there is a fair amount of nonantum slang that bears some similarity to romany language. see blumie's wikipedia link above.

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                    StriperGuy Nov 16, 2010 05:36 AM

                    Cool, who knew.

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                      galleygirl Nov 17, 2010 01:29 PM

                      Get out!!! That's where "pissa!" comes from!?!?

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                        Allstonian Nov 17, 2010 02:11 PM

                        No, I don't think so. Most of the rest of that vocabulary is indigenous to Nonantum (and, apparently, Newton North High School), but I can vouch for the fact that "pissa" has been widespread throughout Boston for decades.

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                          galleygirl Nov 17, 2010 02:47 PM

                          Yes, I know, having grown up here, but since I wasn't around in the 30's or 40's, it could have started there!

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                            Allstonian Nov 17, 2010 04:14 PM

                            I don't buy it - why would that one word become widespread throughout the whole greater Boston area and all the other Nonantum-speak stay local? I think the Globe reporter just got that wrong.

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                    Ralphie_in_Boston Nov 16, 2010 06:37 AM

                    you ain't "overchaying"

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                      Blumie Nov 16, 2010 08:53 AM

                      I went to high school at Newton North High School in the early '80s. We all referred to each other as "mush" in those days. "Hey, mush, how's it going?" Some old high school buddies recently organized a reunion, which they called "mushfest."

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