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21 year old Scotch

rdel Nov 11, 2010 01:34 PM

My husband is a huge fan of scotch, I know absolutely nothing about it except that he seems to like 21 year old scotch (or older) and his current favorite is Auchentochen (which is no longer available in North America). I want to get him a bottle for Christmas but have no idea what to look for beyond age. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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  1. CocoaChanel RE: rdel Nov 11, 2010 01:37 PM

    Depending on how much you want to spend...

    Our favourites at home are the McCallan 21 and the Balvenie 21 year old Portwood
    The last time I looked at pricing, the Balvenie was $175 at LCBO

    Both are very smooth and I/we do not find them peaty, so if your husband likes peaty, these likely won't satisfy

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      dubchild RE: rdel Nov 11, 2010 02:07 PM

      I bought the Glenfarclas 21 yr old for about $125 at the LCBO.

      1. ingloriouseater RE: rdel Nov 11, 2010 02:19 PM

        macallan 25 year old is my drug of choice.....

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        1. re: ingloriouseater
          millygirl RE: ingloriouseater Nov 11, 2010 02:46 PM

          If you happen to see Port Ellen available, go for it. One of the best there is.

        2. estufarian RE: rdel Nov 11, 2010 04:07 PM

          Use the search feature on the Vintages website

          I didn't look for older but there are very few alternatives for 21 year-old right now:

          Canada | Highwood Distillers Ltd.
          VINTAGES | 182626 | 750 mL | $ 48.95 (not a scotch of course)
          United Kingdom | J & G Grant International Ltd
          VINTAGES | 315614 | 700 mL | $ 124.95
          United Kingdom | Ian Macleod And Co. Ltd.
          VINTAGES | 670562 | 700 mL | $ 154.95

          There are also a couple of 'no stock' hits - the site is not particularly friendly.

          On the website you can click on the item for a description (sometimes - and sometimes no description), and then click on 'FIND STORES' to discover where it might be available. If inventory is low, call first as it might be a 'phantom bottle'.

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          1. re: estufarian
            rdel RE: estufarian Dec 2, 2010 09:24 AM

            Thank you very much - I found this very helpful and will hopefully find him something he likes!!

          2. sku RE: rdel Nov 11, 2010 06:55 PM

            What's your basis for saying Auchentoshan isn't available i n North America? I see it quite often. Even if the original bottling of the 21 is not available (though I easily found at least one on-line), you can find independent bottlings.

            If you are looking for something different though, I would go less by age than by style. The fact that two different Scotches are both 21 years old doesn't mean that they will taste anything alike. Auchentochen is a fairly light, triple distilled Scotch. In some ways, it is more similar to an Irish Whiskey than another Scotch. As to Scotch, you may want to try a Glenkinchie or Rosebank. For Irish, Redbreast may appeal.

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              JMF RE: sku Nov 17, 2010 03:23 AM

              Auchentoshen is available in the US. A friend of mine was the brand ambassador until three months ago. I was at a tasting event just this past summer.

              That said, I, and many others in the industry feel that a 21 yr old is getting on the old side. The good end of old, but pushing it. Then that between 21-27 or even 30 yrs a single malt goes dead and over wooded. The 30+ ones then come back to life, the wood dies down and becomes floral.

              Other than that I don't have any suggestions. I have been losing my taste for single malts over the years. I was at whiskeyfest two weeks ago and was actually bored by most of them. Now some of the bourbons, and especially ryes whiskeys stood out. And the artisanal whiskeys from the US.

            2. Naguere RE: rdel Nov 17, 2010 03:59 AM

              Here is a Scotch, sold in the last few days.

              We can only dream about it:


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              1. re: Naguere
                ncyankee101 RE: Naguere Nov 17, 2010 08:06 AM

                $460,000 sounds like a lot, but keep in mind that IS a 1.5 ltr decanter.

                1. re: ncyankee101
                  estufarian RE: ncyankee101 Nov 17, 2010 08:10 AM

                  And don't forget the LCBO charges of about 130% to import it.

                  Edited to add: Of course, now that the moderators have moved this off the Ontario Board, most of the postings are irrelevant as it's "almost" illegal to import spirits into Ontario (unless it accompanies you).

              2. TheDewster RE: rdel Nov 18, 2010 12:17 PM

                Auchentochan is available at the LCBO in ontario $71 $45 for the 12 yr old.

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                  rdel RE: TheDewster Dec 2, 2010 09:22 AM

                  YOu can get 16 year old Auchentochan here at the LCBO - I am looking for a good 21 year old though

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                    TheDewster RE: rdel Dec 2, 2010 11:27 AM

                    Supermarket Liquors & Wines
                    8438 Niagara Falls Blvd
                    Niagara Falls, NY 14304
                    Phone: (716) 297-7393 My go to source if LCBO is a no go.

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