Planning Vienna trip... Narrowing choices
- Cookingthebooks Nov 7, 2010 01:37 AM
My husband and I are planning a trip to Vienna for three days in late November. It's my first visit and I'm VERY excited to try Viennese cuisine. I am, however, feeling a bit overwhelmed trying to absorb the vocabulary and specialties of an entirely new (to me) culture and city. I've done a lot of research here and am posting now with specific questions. We have 2-3 lunches and 1 dinner slot to fill. I'm also interested in afternoon coffee/cake breaks.
For the dinner, I am looking for classic Viennese food -- I prefer honest, simple fare to fine dining or formal settings. I would love to try wiener schnitzel, gulasch, semmelknödel, clear soup. Here are a few places on my radar for dinner (remember, I can only pick one!):
For lunch, I prefer eating a lighter meal, even if it's on the go. Places on my radar for lunch:
Wurstelstand am at the Hoher Markt
For coffee/cake breaks, I'm looking for a classic, Viennese, Old World experience, even if it's a little touristy. I'd like to try apfelstrudel, topfenstrudel, and/or sour cherry strudel. And of course, Sacher Torte. Places on my radar:
For cocktail hour, I'd love to sample Austrian wine. Places on my radar:
Wein & Co.
Julius Meinl's wine bar
Unger & Klein
Could you help me narrow down my choices, please?
Of the places you mention I've only been to a couple, but heartily recommend both: Rudi Beisl and Restaurant Sperl. Absolutely fantastic meals at both. If you had to choose one... boy that's tough. Maybe Sperl. The garlic creme suppe haunts me... as do the eiknockerl.
I don't know if you can fit it in but I also think you should try to go to a heuriger. Wieninger was our favorite but there are so many: http://tastytrix.blogspot.com/2010/04...
Also, if you're looking for a snack and want something different Vienna has the market tied up on little tiny sandwiches. Duran and Trznievski are practically next door to each other in the Mariahilf although there's a Trznievski in Stephensplatz too. You could just get a couple of the little beauties for fun: http://tastytrix.blogspot.com/2010/03...
It's my wife's blog but obviously I'm heavily involved with it (who wouldn't want to be?!? All that great food!)
And definitely come back and post your thoughts afterward. Sturmi is a tremendous resource. When we were in Wien we got on CH every morning and were like "Alright Sturmi, what do you think of this?" It was hilarious.
Incidentally Sperl would make a great lunch if you chose Rudi for dinner. Plus Sperl is very close to the Belvedere in case you want to combine it with some truly stunning art.
And don't forget the Naschmarkt!
Thanks for the flowers !
Vienna is an exciting playground for chowhounds, since the Viennese really love good food. On the other hand there are also quite a few tourist traps and rippoffs, but even there you might find a trace of the real thing...
The year 2011 will be great for anybody interested in high-end cuisine, since we will see the opening a bunch of brand new five star hotels, each with a new de luxe restaurant as well. After Palais Coburg, Das Turm and Meinl am Graben went out of business, the high end was dominated by Steiereck (which I never started to appreciate) and some niche players such as Walter Bauer and Mraz&Son. This will definitely change next year....
You're welcome! You are truly a gem. We'll be back in Vienna for sure (my mom is retiring there next year) so maybe we'll toast a glass at Wieninger or Am Reisenberg someday!
As for the rest of your news, that's all very interesting. One thing we didn't do was any fine dining. Personally we're in love with the variety of more modest, rustic types of establishments you have, but at some point we'll want to splurge on a serious night out. Pretty surprised by Meinl am Graben. Is that big news there? It should be.
Well, you know, the "crisis" of 2008 was felt here in Vienna in fact mainly by the high-end restaurants. Business shied away from expensive places, and Meinl V. himself, he is a main figure of a real estate bubble which burst and was felt quite painful by many investors.
Thus, the Meinl am Graben had to cut down expenses....
But: We have a few new and interesting places which specialize in inventive variations of Viennese cuisine. One is a new incarnation of Weibel 3, now called "Wein in the City"
the other is "Martin", a small but well designed new place:
Just left Vienna and couldnt help but comment on your comment here that Meinl am Graben has gone out of business. Are you talking about the restaurant, surely not the supermarket which has to be right up there as one of the best in the world. Also while I have you all, Cafe Sperl a long time family favourite disappointed with its goulash. I also ordered a simple ham sandwich and had to leave it uneaten so dry and processed did it taste. Cakes however remain supreme. Maybe I just ordered badly. Another tip would have to the wonderful Cafe Korb, bect goulash tasted thus far.
Your list is excellent, and you will like Vienna, no question.
Getting a table at Rudis Beisl is difficult, but no problem at Pfudl, Sperl or at 3 Hacken. So if you want to eat at Rudis Beisl, get a reservation or drop in late, after 2 p.m.
The Kaffeehaus question is another issue: Digas and Bräunerhof are really unrenovated gems form the past. Mozart and Tirolerhof have seen a little bit of renovation, but are still authentic. Cafe Sperl is class of its own.
BTW: Please keep in mind that smoking is heavily popular here in the Balkans, and that the larger part of each Kaffeehaus will be the smoking section. So: bring your Havannas and light up...
The wine bars you mention are my favourites, so there is no question that you will like it there, if you can stand the smoke...
Thank you, Sturmi! I was hoping you'd weigh in. So, do you have a preference among the restaurants, or do you like all of them? Right now my first choice is Rudi's Beisl, second choice Sperl. I appreciate your excellent advice so much, both here and on so many other threads about Vienna -- you are truly an expert!
All these restaurants on your list are of the same category: good old-fashioned "Beisl".
Of course there are many others fitting the same category, fortunately all of them are doing brisk business. You might find real gems in hidden corners, such as Restaurant Sperl, or right in the most fashionable parts of Vienna, such as Pfudl and Zu den 3 Hacken.
I would not name a favorite, since so much depends on the menu of the day. Some dishes might taste spectacular, other might feel only strange, and some might even be disgusting. Taste is so individual and depends so much on your personal history ...
A chain of overpriced restaurants offering variations of boiled beef. The food is OK, but you can get the same at dozens of small places all over town for half as much.
Zur goldenen Kugel, 1090, Lazarettgasse,
Zum Reznicek, 1090, Reznicekgasse
Altwiener Gastwirtschaft Schilling, 1070 Burggasse
Schreiners Gastwirtschaft, 1070 Westbahnstrasse
and many more...