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Hey, coffee hounds - Where's best breakfast in town?

scarmoza Nov 4, 2010 09:27 AM

I'm constantly in search of a delicious and hearty breakfast place that also offers superb coffee service. You know what I mean by good coffee...quality beans, light to medium roast where you can taste the coffee and not just the roast.

I've been limited to the small breakfast menu at Stable Cafe, OR loading on the milk and sugar to the harsh and bitter cups all over this city. Can you help a hound out with more coffee and breakfast options in San Francisco?

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    ninaap Nov 4, 2010 11:29 AM

    Best breakfast in SF is Dotty's True Blue Cafe. Everything is homemade on the premises and their coffee is excellent. You might have a little wait time, and it's well worth it. They don't hurry you and you can take your time.

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    1. re: ninaap
      scarmoza Nov 4, 2010 11:39 AM

      I've only bothered to wait in line once for Dotties, and that was a while ago. While it's a great breakfast, I don't remember the coffee much. Do you know what kind of coffee they serve (which roaster)?

      1. re: ninaap
        xristoffer Nov 4, 2010 11:51 AM

        How long is this wait you speak of?

      2. pane Nov 4, 2010 03:53 PM

        Weekday or weekend? Does it matter?

        For weekend only, Bar Tartine. For weekday, you can stop into the Ferry Building on the early side and go to Cane Rosso or Boulette's Larder--I think those might both serve Blue Bottle.

        Bar Tartine
        561 Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94110

        Blue Bottle Cafe
        66 Mint St, San Francisco, CA 94103

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        1. re: pane
          vulber Nov 4, 2010 04:05 PM

          Bar Tartine (as well as Tartine Bakery) has sadly switched to Four Barrel Coffee. I was still extremely impressed with the iced Americano I had with brunch there, though. Tartine Bakery, however, makes a pretty terrible mocha.

          Tartine Bakery
          600 Guerrero St, San Francisco, CA 94110

          Bar Tartine
          561 Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94110

          Four Barrel Coffee
          375 Valencia St, San Francisco, CA 94103

          1. re: vulber
            scarmoza Nov 4, 2010 04:41 PM

            Wasn't Tartine using Mr. Espresso before? Four Barrel would be a huge improvement, IMHO.

          2. re: pane
            scarmoza Nov 4, 2010 05:31 PM

            This is what I'm talking about! I've never be to Cane Rosso so I'm putting it on the top of my to do list.

            1. re: pane
              boris_qd Nov 4, 2010 06:32 PM

              second the Tartine empire (Bar or otherwise). I think their coffee is pretty good and four barrel is my favorite of the normal contenders (blue bottle, ritual, philz round out the pack).

              1. re: boris_qd
                scarmoza Nov 4, 2010 08:26 PM

                (I just have to say it!) For the record Philz is not a contender in the "quality beans, light to medium roast where you can taste the coffee and not just the roast" category.

                I will never understand the love this town has for Philz.

                1. re: scarmoza
                  boris_qd Nov 5, 2010 11:53 AM

                  For some reason SF really likes its dark roast.

                  I like Four Barrel best but I wouldn't say they have a light roast. Med -> Med Dark perhaps? But I also have a preference for espresso drinks - you might try their drip if you find the espresso too roasted.

                  1. re: boris_qd
                    scarmoza Nov 5, 2010 02:27 PM

                    I have no complaints with Four Barrel. It's been very good to me.

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              ladybugthepug Nov 4, 2010 04:31 PM

              I preferred Philz to Four Barrel and Blue Bottle in terms of coffee. I think Blue Bottle does one hell of a good cappuccino, though.


              Blue Bottle Cafe
              66 Mint St, San Francisco, CA 94103

              Blue Bottle
              151 Third St, San Francisco, CA

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              1. re: ladybugthepug
                scarmoza Nov 4, 2010 04:46 PM

                I'm curious to know it your Philz coffee included milk/cream and mint.

                1. re: scarmoza
                  ladybugthepug Nov 4, 2010 05:04 PM

                  A little cream for sure. Mint? No.

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                carfeng Nov 5, 2010 09:06 AM

                Mission Beach Cafe serves hearty breakfasts and Blue Bottle coffee. Starbelly has brunch on weekends (only?) and serves good coffee (forget whose beans, but likely Four Barrel or BB). I'd also recommend Chow.

                215 Church St, San Francisco, CA 94114

                Mission Beach Cafe
                198 Guerrero St., San Francisco, CA 94103

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                1. re: carfeng
                  scarmoza Nov 5, 2010 09:28 AM

                  Thank you. These are great additions.

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