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Nov 3, 2010 05:39 AM

Eating Animals

Just finished reading Eating Animals by J.S. Foer. Powerful indictment of factory farming. The most unsettling part may relate to the cruelty inflicted on the animals we consume. Other than a CSA is there anywhere in Boston/Cambridge where I can find meat that was raised in an ethical way. According to Foer, many labels like "cage-free" are hardly to be believed and designed to be misleading.

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    1. You'll need to ask good questions of your butcher. Savenor's, which is pricy, has a lot of locally-sourced, small-ish farms they source. There's a small store on Tremont (used to be Lionette's, now its something like DeLeo's?, right near Stephanie's South End that also has options. For farms, Stillman's sells out of Farmer's markets and, at least last year, they had a stall in the Downtown Crossing XMas market. You can buy directly from farms without being in a CSA, such as Blood Farm in Groton.

      Tremont Cafe
      418 Tremont St, Boston, MA 02116

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      1. re: bostonbroad

        Verrill Farms is also pretty good in their treatment of animals. They have that store out in Concord (and right next door in Pete and Jen's Backyard Birds), and I think that Verrill is carried at some local stores. Dave's Fresh pasta is actually a pretty great store in regards to their sourcing, and their "Fresh This Week at Dave's" newletter gives some specifics with regards to the farms that they carry. The labeling at Savenors requires a lot of questions in my experience. Especially their seafood section, but also many of the meats. But they are still a good source for responsibly-raised meats. And the milk from The High Lawn Farm in Lee, MA (carried at whole foods, dave's, etc) is delicious (especially the chocolate milk) and from happy cows.

        Verrill Farm
        11 Wheeler Rd, Concord, MA, MA 01742

        Backyard Birds
        159 Wheeler Rd, Concord, MA 01742

        1. re: bostonbroad

          Don Otto (the store on tremont you referred to) has closed its doors

          1. re: Wannabfoode

            Don Otto's has closed? When did that happen?

            1. re: Wannabfoode

              Noooooo. I hope against hope that this is not true. I loved Lionette's (when I cooked meat for friends/family that's where I got it) and was wary when Don Ottos took over management. My fears have come true.

                1. re: Wannabfoode

                  Very recently, and it seemed inevitable. I gave up after the third time they didn't have something I'd consider pretty basic (whole chicken, beef stew meat, pork sausage). It was an odd place after changing hands.
                  I would love to see Savenor's move in but realize it's wishful thinking.

                2. re: bostonbroad

                  Stillman's also comes into Boston and sells meat at random "Meet Meets."

                  Chef JJ Gonson usually announces them on her blog and you post a comment on about what you want or call Kate at Stillman's to order. There is usually some extra stuff on the truck for those who just show up.


                  Here are recent Boston Board conversations related to this topic:


                  Here's a local Harvest page where you can search for meat suppliers.


                  Looks like I should write a Fresh & Local column on this topic. Thanks for all the info.


                3. Try www.eatwild.com--this is a great resource to find humanely raised meat in your area. Also check out farmer's markets.

                  1. Tender Crop farm in Newbury. I also read that book along with many others about consuming animals. Another book, "The Face on Your Plate" was also a great read. The owner at Tender Crop will bring you out to the animals if requested so that you can see the conditions they live in. Another great farm is Green Meadow in Hamilton. At this farm, you can wonder around the farm and meet and greet the animals. Spend some time with the pigs, you can feed and pet them. Spending time with these animals has greatly changed my eating habits. I have been a pescatarian for the past few years. I am know reading "Four Fish: The Future of the Last Wild Food" by Paul Greenberg. We will see how this book changes my eating habits soon. If you visit Tender Crop, don't forget to feed Buffy the Buffalo!

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                    1. Sorry to not address your original question, but Savenor's in Cambridge will address all of your humane meat concerns!

                      1. re: FastTalkingHighTrousers

                        Some of Savenor's shrimp are labeled as coming from countries where shrimping practices have been called into question by Foer and others (Thailand, Vietnam, I'm not sure specifically which countries they are now), but I have never questioned Savenor's if these shrimp are caught via sustainable methods that avoid large "bycatch". But Savenor's is great and they will knowledgably answer most questions and either look up answers they don't know or tell you that they don't know, so I personally really like Savenors.

                        1. re: redelephant

                          I misspoke. I should have said that Savenor's will be honest when they tell you what they have is either humanely or non humanely raised and farmed. This is not something, unfortunately, most places selling food would ever consider doing. I didn't mean to imply that Savenor's only sells humanely raised products.
                          I dig Savenor's particularly for their attitude regarding where their food comes from. They definitely push quality over proximity and responsibility and are unapologetic in how they do so. They sell really nice food and are happy to tell you where it's from but aren't going all crying Indian when they can't source humane stuff.

                          1. re: FastTalkingHighTrousers

                            You might also try the soon-to-open Akimenko Meats on Cambridge Street, Inman Square and Shepherd Market in Union Square, both of which only sell small-batch meats from nearby farms with articulated raising practices. There have been at least one or two other threads on this topic in the past few months so you might search around to see if you can find them.

                            1. re: hckybg

                              Do you mean Sherman Market in Union Square?

                              Sherman Market
                              22 Union Square, Somerville, MA 02143

                              1. re: Allstonian

                                Oops! I even said in my head "Shepherd Market? Shepherd Cafe...yes, that sounds right..." Sherman Market (a couple doors down from Sherman Cafe); thanks for the catch, Allstonian. I can convince myself of anything, apparently.

                                Sherman Market
                                22 Union Square, Somerville, MA 02143

                          2. re: redelephant

                            most of that shrimp is farmed. bycatch is not an issue.

                      2. Busa's in Lexington carries locally raised beef. They have a freezer that gets stocked every so often, though you never know what will be in it. I can personally vouch for the ground beef & kebabs- excellent flavor & cooks really well.

                        Also, Whole Foods carries locally raised beef. You can ask the butcher about the farming practices. You may not get an answer on the spot, but a follow up call to the manager may help.

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                        1. re: tall sarah

                          I spoke to the butcher at Whole Foods. Seems like they REALLY are addressing the issue. Not fully there yet but further along than most places. Another problem becomes all the small ethnic restos that can't afford to buy humanely raised meats. I real problem, I'm afraid.

                          1. re: baldbert

                            Yeah, I need to contact Redbone's to ask about their meat sourcing so I can figure out if my girlfriend will ever be able to join me there again. Sigh. At least at most places such as Indian and Chinese restaurants, we can be satisfied by the veggies. I'm still trying to figure out what I think of places that serve bluefin tuna. Like o ya. What is better: boycotting the restaurant all together [and making sure they know why], or visiting more often and ordering the Seafood Watch and sustainably fished items and also complain about their blue fin options every time? Personally, I'll probably do neither, which means visiting occasionally, not ordering the blue fin, but also not expressing my concern about their use of blue fin. And, I don't know if this makes it better or worse, but the owner of o ya recognizes the issues with serving items such as blue fin, but he keeps in onthe menu because he claims dinners expect it. Not exactly a leader in environmentalism, is he?


                            55 Chester St, Somerville, MA 02144

                            1. re: redelephant

                              Not sure you can own a restaurant and at the same time claim to be an environmentalist or care about animal cruelty issues. Which, I suppose, begs the question, can you be a customer and make any of those claims yourself. Probably not. Damning sort of hypocrisy we all are culpable of.

                              1. re: baldbert

                                I think that what Craigie and Journeymen are doing concerning their sourcing is very responsible along these lines and laudable, and relatively speaking, quite environmentally minded. So I eat at Craigie and feel very satisfied in knowing the relatively humane sources for their meats, and forget entirely about my leather belt and shoes and sweatshop-made clothing and just ignorantly and blissfully enjoy the food. yeah....

                              2. re: redelephant

                                I am always vocal about the sustainable fishing piece when at any restaurant- if I see a problem fish on there I point it out to the waiter and let them know how disappointing it is. I'm one of those annoying people who carries around the Monterray Bay guide in her purse.

                                Just saw this, though, so that makes me happy:


                                1. re: Kirs

                                  Awesome! And thank you for the link.