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mikey Nov 2, 2010 06:52 PM

Sadly, I am stuck in a great city but in a fairly dull part of town. Will be in San Diego for a conference staying at a Hilton Bay front hotel. Convention Hell. If I wanted to get two great dinners where should I go? And, a great lunch not in the hotel. So, for one night, I will be looking for fun: loud, crowded, posh, popular, fun bar crowd, great food, and upscale. The other night: great food a must, good wine list, hopefully elegant. For lunch-what is the best burger within walking distance to that Hilton? Or, best Mexican. This can be total hole in the wall. I hope this is not too much to ask for. And, if there is a real must not miss place within a taxi ride, that is fine too. Many thanks for any help you can give me. I am looking forward to having some good food this time around.

  1. Beach Chick Nov 4, 2010 07:24 AM

    You can walk over to the Fish Market downtown to the sushi bar or the Oyster bar..I like the deck outside for a glass of wine and a shrimp cocktail..do not eat at the restaurant!
    The water taxi over to Coronado is a great option and have dinner at Candelas.
    Dobson's for mussel bisque in the bar is outstanding..burger is good too.
    McCormicks and Schmicks at the Omni has a great everyday happy hour.
    Basic for pizza is some of the best in the Gaslamp and I love Jsix at the Hotel Solamar.

    www.gaslamp.org
    www.sdhe.com

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      JRSD Nov 3, 2010 08:38 AM

      Neighborhood on G between 7th and 8th (decent walk) has very good burgers, upscale bar food and excellent selection of craft beer. I really like the chorizo corn dogs there. Note that they do not serve ketchup.

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        Fake Name Nov 3, 2010 08:49 AM

        And you need to be a certain kind of "cool" to go there and expect service.

        JRSD must be that kind of "cool" while I'm clearly not.

        I suppose being in that 'hood for 14 years prior to their arrival does not count, either.

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          JRSD Nov 3, 2010 08:54 AM

          Not that I ever want to disagree with being called cool but I have usually been the oldest person (and probably worst dressed) in the place and never had a problem with the service other than slowness.

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            Fake Name Nov 3, 2010 10:21 AM

            Well you got "it" whatever it takes. I got attitude for just asking politely for a menu. Really.

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              globocity Nov 4, 2010 11:44 AM

              Funny, I get that same bored, annoyed service at both Influxes. Perhaps my jeans aren't skinny enough and my non-tattooed skin makes me unqualified to go there. Neighborhood for me has been hit-or-miss regarding food and service. With options like Station Tavern and Burger Lounge, I've decided to quit Neighborhood.

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              stevewag23 Nov 4, 2010 12:00 PM

              "probably worst dressed"

              But what does that mean these days?

              Jeans too baggy? Not enough glitter on your shirt?

              I need some clarification?

              I want to be able to eat there someday too!!!

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                JRSD Nov 4, 2010 02:28 PM

                Jeans are way too formal for me. I didn't move to SD to not wear shorts everywhere.

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                  Island Nov 4, 2010 02:54 PM

                  And flip flops too

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                    Josh Nov 4, 2010 05:32 PM

                    Amen, brother.

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                      stevewag23 Nov 5, 2010 08:03 PM

                      Glitter on your shorts?

                      Or skinny shorts?

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                        JRSD Nov 6, 2010 12:25 PM

                        Dont be stupid, everyone knows glitter is only for weddings and funerals

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                          globocity Nov 6, 2010 12:47 PM

                          You forgot body glitter on SDSU girl coeds. When going to class. Totally appropriate.

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                            stevewag23 Nov 8, 2010 08:52 AM

                            And exotic dancers.

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                              RB Hound Nov 8, 2010 12:12 PM

                              Exotic dancers? They still do that glitter thing? That was big 20 years ago, but I thought it mostly went out with the influx of tattoos and piercings.

                              Does anybody still do one of those yummy lunch buffets?

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                    cstr Nov 3, 2010 09:36 AM

                    OMG, where do us ugly uncool older than dirt people go?

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                      Fake Name Nov 3, 2010 10:24 AM

                      Super Sergios.

                      But it's a drive thru (mostly) and the OP has no car in which to enjoy his/her repast.

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                      Super Sergio's
                      4125 Convoy St, San Diego, CA 92111

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                        Island Nov 3, 2010 07:13 PM

                        Ok I'm starting to crave carne asada from here or are you faking that it's really good; another Berlin- like inside joke perhaps?
                        Can't help but think of a recent Sergio SNL skit.

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                          DiningDiva Nov 3, 2010 08:24 PM

                          Super Sergio is the real deal

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                          Super Sergio's
                          4125 Convoy St, San Diego, CA 92111

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                            Fake Name Nov 3, 2010 10:10 PM

                            I LOVE their burritos- had one yesterday. This is not high-quality fancy-schmancy stuff. It's car food clear and simple, but quintessential San Diego.

                            Get it with sour cream. Possible enough calories for three meals rolled up into one delicious package.

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                              Island Nov 4, 2010 11:17 AM

                              Who wants a fancy-schmancy burrito anyway; not me! Ok now please tell me this delicious package does NOT include refried beans; that's a deal breaker.

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                                Fake Name Nov 4, 2010 12:22 PM

                                You better edit that right away- we don't appreciate blasphemy on these boards, and a carne asada burrito with beans would certainly fall into that category.

                                Chef Sergio, if you're reading this, please forgive my erstwhile interwebmessagebordaquaintence.

                                Or at least don't throw me into the same league. I don't want to be banned from the Super Sergios Chef Table Event list.

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                                Super Sergio's
                                4125 Convoy St, San Diego, CA 92111

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                                  Island Nov 4, 2010 12:36 PM

                                  Oh good to hear. I recently tried Rudy's, struggled with my choice to forgo the c a burrito in favor of the recommended c a torta and Ahhhhh the horror!!!! Precious carne asada sandwiched between a slathering of guacamole and refried beans!!! Blasphmous and sacriligious made worse by Mr Island gleefuly eating his c a burrito with an I told you so smirk. He did share though, but by then Rudy's crime was unforgivable.

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                                    DiningDiva Nov 4, 2010 01:13 PM

                                    Ummm....but torta's typically DO come with beans. Not a slathering, but a thin schmear for sure

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                                      Cathy Nov 4, 2010 01:38 PM

                                      Yes. Even the Ham & Cheese torta...

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                                        Fake Name Nov 4, 2010 01:41 PM

                                        Torta?

                                        Yeah, that's like ordering the salmon at a steakhouse.

                                        Besides, those are endangered and I find their shells very tough, even after a long braising.

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                                          DiningDiva Nov 4, 2010 04:37 PM

                                          Yes, carne asada in a torta is something of an oxymoron...no?

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                                          Island Nov 4, 2010 02:59 PM

                                          I didn't know that, havent had one since Robertos Mission Bay circa 1983 when I moved here and there were no beans...or maybe I just don't remember them after the bars. :>)
                                          Cgfan told me Rudy's had great carne asada and recommended their plate or torta instead of a burrito so I thought I'd give it a whirl and forgot to ask my usual are their beans in that?

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                        cstr Nov 3, 2010 07:43 AM

                        If you want great Mex seafood take the trolly, (blue line I believe but ,verify) to the Palomar stop and walk one block to Marisco's Godoy. Well worth the ride.

                        1. Fake Name Nov 3, 2010 05:43 AM

                          You're actually better located than you think. As mentioned, you're within walking distance of Cafe Chloe and Cowboy Star- both great dining options.

                          Searsucker is a place many Chowhounds love to hate, but has been given decent reviews and it's a clubby atmosphere. Was I so inclined to go to a loud, crowded, posh, popular fun bar crowd (theres that crowded word again) that's where I'd try.

                          Most of the Gaslamp is entirely missable, but the Hilton Bayfront may be pretty good. Rooftop bars at Jsix and Ivy (is it something else now?)

                          If it's a burger you're after, hop on the trolley to Little Italy and go to Burger Lounge. Yes, there ae better burgers in town, but not many, and few are grass-fed, thus earning the Josh seal of approval- and that's important!

                          Have fun, and let us know how/where you go, OK?

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                          Cafe Chloe
                          721 9th Ave, San Diego, CA 92101

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                            stevewag23 Nov 3, 2010 10:37 AM

                            "Ivy (is it something else now?)"

                            Andaz.

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                            jturtle Nov 2, 2010 10:50 PM

                            So for you first night I think maybe either Cowboy Star or Cucina Urbana (need a cab) or my friends and I have really been enjoying Bice. But you might also like Searsucker (have not been but may fit your "fun" requirement.)

                            Second night Cafe Chloe or Cowboy Star. Both within walking distance.
                            Also, your hotel is actually getting moderately decent reviews (see SDreader.com)

                            I am no help for burger or mexican within walking distance.

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                            Cafe Chloe
                            721 9th Ave, San Diego, CA 92101

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                              Gypsy Jan Nov 3, 2010 07:32 PM

                              The "S Dreader?" Is this related to Dread Pirate Robert? Is this the pirate ship in the harbour? (Sorry, my inner sixth grader took control of the keyboard.)

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                                mikey Nov 5, 2010 12:05 PM

                                Hey! Thanks everyone. What great replies. This gives me all KINDS of ideas and just what I wanted; cool bars, good dinner food, a good burger place, and something Mexican. I will certainly report back. Okay, one more possible thing I forgot to mention. Is there a breakfast place nearby? I am sure ANYTHING beats some standard Hilton buffet. All I want is a scrambled egg and not pay 20 dollars for it. The other suggestions are fantastic. Will let you all know how it goes. Thanks!
                                Mikey

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                                  Fake Name Nov 5, 2010 02:15 PM

                                  On Sunday, head to Cafe Chloe. Cafe 222 is pretty good- standard fare except the Pumpkin Waffle, which is reportedly very good. As others will testify, I'd avoid Richard Walkers. Only thing worse is actually standing on/in line for a place like that. I try to avoid negative reviews- if I don't like a place, I post about those I do. But you'll hear lots of folks endorse Walkers, most of them from out of town, or working at the hotels. CHs generally (with some exceptions) will steer you elsewhere. Berlin, maybe. Or maybe Garmisch-Partenkirchen if one is in an alpine mood.

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                                  Cafe Chloe
                                  721 9th Ave, San Diego, CA 92101

                                  Cafe 222
                                  222 Island Ave, San Diego, CA 92101

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                                    daantaat Nov 5, 2010 09:52 PM

                                    2nd Fakey's post. I've had Cafe 222's pumpkin waffle which is quite good. Won't blow you away kind of food like Chloe but a nice, moist, not overly sweet pumpkin-y waffle.

                                    Definitely avoid Richard Walker's.

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                                    Cafe 222
                                    222 Island Ave, San Diego, CA 92101

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