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Vegetables so robust you need a steak-knife

ipsedixit Nov 1, 2010 11:18 AM

When the weather turns a bit chilly, I tend to want -- or really, crave -- hearty robust vegetables.

You know, the kind that when properly prepared requires a steak knife to handle and eat.

For example, cauliflower simply cut in half and roasted (or broccoli) is a good example. You get this slightly charred outer layer (from time under the broiler), and this meaty center that is a bit gooey but still firm. In no way is it "fork-tender" ... it is, as I like to call it, roasted to a "steak-knife ready" doneness.

But I am at loss for other good candidates.

Any ideas?

  1. Barbara76137 Nov 1, 2010 04:41 PM

    I just heard yesterday that pumpkin is actually a berry, not a vegetable!

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    1. re: Barbara76137
      chowser Nov 2, 2010 01:40 PM

      It's a fruit.

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      Harters Nov 1, 2010 04:38 PM

      I always worry when restaurants provide a special knife to cut steak - always makes me think they aren't going to have cooked it properly and I'm rarely wrong.

      1. blue room Nov 1, 2010 12:53 PM

        You know, lettuce might seem like the wimpiest and least hearty of vegetables, but you can't eat a good rough-torn wilted lettuce salad (with hot bacon & bacon grease) without a knife and fork.

        http://www.grouprecipes.com/55207/nan...

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        1. re: blue room
          ipsedixit Nov 1, 2010 03:22 PM

          Yes, lettuce indeed would be a good choice. Or maybe even cabbage.

          And, yeah, as far as I am concerned a proper Caesar salad really does require some sort of sharp object to properly eat.

          1. re: ipsedixit
            chowser Nov 1, 2010 03:28 PM

            Along those lines, brussel sprouts, kale, swiss chard.

            And, along the broccoli lines, broccolini, broccoflower, broccoli rabe. So are green beans.

            1. re: chowser
              ipsedixit Nov 1, 2010 03:35 PM

              And, along the broccoli lines, broccolini, broccoflower, broccoli rabe. So are green beans.

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              Really? A steak-knife to eat brocollini? And rabe as well? They're both so tender, even raw, that a slight steam bath and they become fork tender.

              1. re: ipsedixit
                chowser Nov 1, 2010 04:04 PM

                Really? Not for me. But, maybe I tend to undercook my vegetables. Or, maybe my cutting hand needs a good workout.

                1. re: chowser
                  ipsedixit Nov 1, 2010 04:14 PM

                  Or maybe your buying old (i.e. not young) brocollini and rabe?

        2. biondanonima Nov 1, 2010 11:43 AM

          Portobello mushrooms are always good and meaty - porcinis too, if you can find them.

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          1. re: biondanonima
            ipsedixit Nov 1, 2010 11:52 AM

            Some would argue that mushrooms are not vegetables ...

            :-)

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              cheesecake17 Nov 1, 2010 11:55 AM

              I was going to say portobello mushrooms as well!
              But hey, if you're not considering them veggies, more for me!!

              Not sure if this is going to fall under super robust.. but a whole roasted beet drizzled with a decadent sauce. I love the idea of cutting into a beet that's allll mine and I don't have to share.

              1. re: ipsedixit
                Cherylptw Nov 1, 2010 12:25 PM

                Interesting....if not vegetables then what?

                1. re: Cherylptw
                  blue room Nov 1, 2010 12:31 PM

                  They're fungi, aren't they? But of course on a dinner plate, they're vegetables.

                  I've never tried plantains--would they qualify as robust?

                  1. re: Cherylptw
                    ipsedixit Nov 1, 2010 12:38 PM

                    I think it's debatable whether mushrooms are vegetables or not. There certainly is no "scientific" definition of "vegetable".

                    Mushrooms are not plants; they are fungus.

                    While we all can agree that mushrooms are fungus, the debatable question becomes, "are fungi vegetables?" Who knows.

                    1. re: ipsedixit
                      Cherylptw Nov 1, 2010 12:52 PM

                      Sure, everyone knows they're fungi but as far I know they're considered veggies. I thought you were going to direct me to some other new informtion (lol)

                      1. re: Cherylptw
                        ipsedixit Nov 1, 2010 03:21 PM

                        Well, here's one link: http://www.onlinegardenertips.com/vegetable-gardening/mushroom/Are-Mushrooms-Considered-Vegetables.html and another: http://www.allaboutmushrooms.com/clas...

                        Mushrooms are classified in their own Kingdom -- i.e., Fungi -- and not part of the Plant Kingdom.

                        In light of that, it would be kind of odd to consider mushrooms a "vegetable".

                        Maybe in culinary terms, one may consider mushrooms to be vegetables in the same way people consider a tomato to be a vegetable (even though botanically they are a fruit).

                        Just food for thought ...

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                        lacunacoil Nov 1, 2010 03:59 PM

                        "I think it's debatable whether mushrooms are vegetables or not. There certainly is no 'scientific' definition of 'vegetable'. "

                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biologic...

                        1. re: lacunacoil
                          ipsedixit Nov 1, 2010 04:02 PM

                          Come again? I'm too dense ... not sure I understand.

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                            lacunacoil Nov 1, 2010 04:06 PM

                            kingdom: vegetable, per science:)

                            1. re: lacunacoil
                              ipsedixit Nov 1, 2010 04:14 PM

                              That's a classification, not a definition.

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                                lacunacoil Nov 1, 2010 04:43 PM

                                well then, enjoy: http://www.biology-online.org/diction...

                                1. re: lacunacoil
                                  ipsedixit Nov 1, 2010 04:45 PM

                                  By that definition, then, mushrooms are not vegetables.

                                  [shrug]

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                                    lacunacoil Nov 1, 2010 04:51 PM

                                    "By that definition, then, mushrooms are not vegetables.

                                    [shrug]"

                                    "A plant used or cultivated for food for man or domestic animals,"

                                    ::shrug::

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