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Need Montreal recommendations - researched!!

Hi all,

I along with 3 of my friends are planning to come to Montreal the last week of November. I've gone through few of the posts on the site and am looking for some advice/recommendations, etc. The criteria for restaurants in the order of preference is, 1. Delicious food, 2. Uniquely Montreal, 3. Avoid repetetions of flavors and tastes, 4. Close to our hotel (Maritime Plaza Hotel, 1155 Guy Street, Montreal, QC H3H 2K5)

Here is what I am planning:

Wednesday (really) late night - I was thinking of Milos but am pretty sure we won't be able to make it in time. Any recommendations for places open past 12:00AM?

Thursday - Viateur bagels (158 St. Viateur), grazing through Jean Talon, Poutine (Patati Patata, Pho Lien ,Smth else??), Dinner at APDC

Friday - Lunch at DNA, Dinner - (Help decide between Joe Beef/Au Cinquieme Peche/Le Club Chasse et Peche)

Saturday - Lunch at Milos ( I was thinking about Le Club Chasse et Peche but from the site it seems like they are not serving lunch??), Dinner at Ferreira (How's the cheaper F Bar)

Sunday - Need a recommendation for something around 10:00 - 11:00 AM. Really am not interested in brunch with egg based dishes but not sure what else to get. Byblos looks OK... Sparrow??

Also, I know that APDC is probably going to be crazy expensive but what about the others? Will love to save a few bucks :) Also, none of us speak French, if that is a factor that would affect the above.

Thanks a lot everyone!!

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  1. since you are arriving late and thinking of milos, i assume you are staying nearby - might I recommend jaunting over to st-viateur bagel or (better in my opinion) Fairmount bagel (24hours) - late night bagels for a true montreal experience. That way you needn't fill up on bread pre-JT market/poutine.

    As for Friday, all 3 are very good - you should consult the menus for your preference. I really like LCCP. If you go to ACP you will be well positioned for night life type stuff after dinner.

    There is a thread on F-bar that you can search for

    APDC is no more expensive than the other restaurants you've mentioned - perhaps cheaper.

    Check the menus online - prices are often included

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    1. re: celfie

      Thanks celfie! Unfortunately, APC's site seems to be only in French which is a slight problem ;) What would you recommend for Poutine? Also, any must haves in JT?

      1. re: indiefoodie

        Hiya, for poutine, check out this thread:

        Updated info sought: Best Poutine in Montreal?
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/709705

        For Jean-Talon Market, check out:

        Jean-Talon Market area, 2010
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/680682

        For breakfast, if you don't want egg-based dishes, how about Cocktail Hawaii - incredible fruit-and-achta crepes, waffles & juices, reasonably priced in a kitchy, friendly atmosphere, right up the street from your hotel. 1645 Maisonneuve West (near Guy) - 514-933-8887

        Much as I love The Sparrow, if you're trying to avoid egg-based dishes, your choices are limited. You can see this week's brunch menu here: http://www.twitpic.com/327436

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        Jean-Talon Market
        7075 Avenue Casgrain, Montreal, QC H2S, CA

        1. re: kpzoo

          Cocktail hawaii breakfast is mediocre. They use supermarket processed bread, their eggs are always over cooked and their potatoes suck. Can't speak to their waffles but their fruit isn't so great either. Plus they are guilty of a montreal breakfast cardinal sin --- -NO FREE COFFEE and certainly no free coffee refill.

          I saw a new breakfast place around your hotel (st catherine maybe???) cannot for the life of me remember. A number of places on Crescent offer brunch - Pino has decent breakfast (http://www.pinorestaurant.com/website... --- sorry for directing you to a godawful music playing restaurant website)... If you want a more wholesome montreal breakfast experience, there are a few places on Fairmount that do breakfast well. I've recently rediscovered Beauty's on Mont-Royal - while it is on the pricier side, everything is always fresh and well made-they also have good bread options including challah (which is A+ in my books)

          1. re: celfie

            > They use supermarket processed bread, their eggs are always over cooked and their potatoes suck

            I specifically *wasn't* recommending their egg-based breakfasts to the OP. They only offer about 2-3 egg/potato/toast-type breakfasts as you describe out of dozens options pictured on their menu, with good reason - it's not their specialty and I don't recommend them to anyone. What they do well is the crepes/waffles/fruit stuff. I've been there many times and the fruit is always fresh and the crepes with achta cream lovely.

            1. re: kpzoo

              well they're also stingy with the syrup! they portion it out, and if you find that you need more, you have to go up and ask (which might take a while) - and they always give me a look like i am committing a faux pas
              i'm not a fan

              1. re: celfie

                You are right, their egg breakfasts are not good at all. However, their achta combinations -especially the crepes- are extreemly good and they fit the bill for being something that you would not find in many places outside Montreal. Yes it's not a great place for many things, however, you cannot go wrong if you get kpzoo's recommendations.

    2. > Any recommendations for places open past 12:00AM?

      Your choices are rather limited. If you want decent deli food within walking distance from your hotel - including a very good matzoh ball soup & club sandwich - Dunn's on Metcalfe just off Ste-Catherine W. could fit the bill. (Skip the smoked meat, though - if you're interested in that, there are better places.) Not gourmet fare, but a wide range of options and open 24 hours:

      1249 Metcalfe St.
      http://maps.google.com/places/ca/mont...

      Here are some other threads on late-night eats to check out: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6262...

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      1. re: kpzoo

        Another idea - if you wanted to take a cab to Chinatown I (or a bit of a hike) some of the restos there are open quite late, like VIP (1077 Clark) open til 5 am, I believe.

      2. > Any recommendations for places open past 12:00AM?

        If you need to stay in downtown after midnight, go to Al Taib (on Guy); better yet is Boustan (on Bishop) - their chicken or veggie pitas are awesome.

        If you don't mind the short travel, head to The Main (St-Laurent, north of Pine). Their matzoh ball soup undoubtedly beats Dunn's, their smoked meat is peppery and arguably better than Schwartz's, coleslaw's got a nice garlic kick; they've got borscht, blintzes, the list keeps going....

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        Al Taib
        2125 Rue Guy, Montreal, QC H3H2L9, CA

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        1. re: kwy_li

          Mechant Boeuf in Old Montreal's kitchen is open until 1am on wednesdays - i've been after midnight before .here is their late night menu http://www.experienceoldmontreal.com/...

          1. re: celfie

            actually, their menu says wednesdays kitchen serves until 11 but their website proper says 1am (2am on weekends)
            better to call ahead
            their burgers are goood

        2. You realize that none of your own suggestions are near your hotel...

          Your hotel is very close to Chinatown 2/Guy-Concordia area. My personal recommendations are Cuisine Schezwan, Qing Hua Dumpling, and Avesta for Turkish food. The Curry House on Bishop is the best Indian downtown. Also Kazu (Japanese Izakaya) on Ste-Catherine gets raves on this board but i haven't been myself...yet!

          Why are you interested in Pho Lien? It's very mediocre. For poutine the places to go are La Banquise or Ma'am M Bolduc. I love Patati too.

          The most uniquely Montreal place isn't on your list: Schwartz's!!

          Bagels, Poutine and APDC all on the same day? Crazy! I hope your stomach can handle it.

          As others have said, APDC isn't more expensive then most of the other restaurants you've listed. They're all pricey.

          For good non-egg breakfasts, try to find crepes or waffles. My personal fave is the place on the southwest corner of St-Viateur and St-Urbain. I can't think of any good places downtown...If you're okay with pastries, you can walk up to Premiere Moisson on Sherbrooke....good croissants. Have you had Dim Sum before? Kam Fung in Chinatown is a great option for a non-egg, non-pastry Sunday breakfast.

          Finally, you won't have a problem by not speaking French.

          1. Le Meac has a menu that starts at 10:00 pm. It's a great value and good, although far from where you are - nothing a quick cab can't fix. The latest I ate there was 11:30 pm so it might be worth a call to see if they are open past midnight.

            If you're up at St. Viateur/Fairmont, stop by Cafe Olimpico - it's a Montreal institution. P.S. I hope you try the mini burgers while you're at Patiti Patati for poutine.

            APDC is actually quite expensive - it's one of those restaurants that adds up (like Garde Manger and TuckShop) - even though price per dish is not high.

            It doesn't matter if none of you speak French - Montrealers are bilingual for the rest of us.

            There is a new brunch spot that is getting rave reviews: Faberge :) And if you don't want your usual egg dishes, try Beautys' mac n cheese.

            Have fun...I'm surprise Schwartz is not on your list? Regardless of what people say - it is the BEST smoked meat in Montreal.

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            1. re: anabelgg

              Fabergé is getting rave reviews? I think BlueSteak may disagree with you.

              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7421...

              1. re: wattacetti

                Rave reviews meaning the Montrealers I know are loving it...but wow, poor BlueSteak...

                I that as long as the MAJORITY of patrons are happy, it's worth a try...if you nix every restaurant someone complained about, you should just eat at home. You can't please everybody - some people just LOVE to post bad reviews.

                1. re: goodfoodlover1

                  How to lose all credibility: post the exact same negative review in 3 different threads.

                2. re: anabelgg

                  cafe olympico hasnt been so good lately
                  club social is better but gamba is better than both

                  1. re: celfie

                    If you want good coffee (OR tea!) and don't want to leave downtown, go to Cafe Myriade. I think the owner placed second in the International Barista competition last year, and the velvety texture of their latte says it all.

                    1. re: kwy_li

                      i go there sometimes 3 or 4 times a day

                    2. re: celfie

                      Celfie, I'm curious to hear more details about your experiences at Olympico.

                      1. re: anachemia

                        the young guys who work there sling burnt espresso and inappropriate comments
                        club social is definitely the place with the old world vibe - olympico not so much anymore

                        1. re: celfie

                          Inappropriate comments? Now I'm really curious :-) Can you elaborate?

                          1. re: anachemia

                            there's no point-i just don't like the vibe in there anymore. in fact, i actually don't like st viateur street much either

                          2. re: celfie

                            I have no problem dishing the dirt on an overrated establishment.

                            I've been to Olympico a few times. Seemed okay although an oddly jocky, virtually all-male clientele for a coffee place - I'm sure this is what celfie hints at (wasn't my idea, btw, just visiting a friend in the hood, who, silly bastard, doesn't drink).

                            The last time another friend (who was there for the 1st time) asked for a glass of water and the guy was so pissed about it (his 1st reaction: yelling "Water?!" in my friend's face), I turned to my bud after and said "It's a good thing the sink is right there [over the counter], otherwise he woulda spat in it." Would've left, but 4 of us already were set up with drinks, some on our second round - which makes his reaction even less excusable.

                            And yeah, St-Viateur is the epicentre of smug, overprivileged, overpriced hipster /smelly hippie douchebaggery (to be even more precise, ground zero is Cagibi on the corner).

                    3. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7369...

                      Here's a breakdown of where I went last month on my first trip to Montreal. Just a warning, I hated Au Pied Du Cochon. The service was horrible and the food was just "good". It's definitely not worth the money, for what it's worth.

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                      1. re: reiflame

                        APDC website has always been bilingual, you must have missed the "English" link.

                        http://www.restaurantaupieddecochon.c...

                        I enjoyed the food immensely last year when I went.

                        1. re: ios94

                          personally i like ambience and less rundown surroundings and certainly when i come to a new city so not impressed with st viateur, fairmont strips would prefer more chic french places like patisserie gascogne or La Croissanterie Figaro in same area and certainly would avoid any of those popular weekend brunch places in plateau with longlineups. I also like peoplewatching so even though not highly rated here the bernard street strip is a pleasant way to enjoy coffee and munchies on a terrace. As for PDC it is personal taste, i have only gone there for vibe found meals way too rich and heavy for my personal preference and my family who are not big on meat found the menu and dishes passing by totally unappealing. Just goes to show the individual variation with preferences on board. Although i must admit i do have a soft spot for that hole in the wall Patati and couldnt believe the prices for breakfast, etc last time i ordered a hamburger although mini it was $2 and my tip was equivalent to my meal We only discovered it a few years ago when driving on st. laurent my daughter said what is that eyesore with garish paint and it has become a favourite for quick snacking. If you like poutine it is easier to get to than other places recommended.
                          http://www.montrealfood.com/restos/pa...

                      2. Thanks a lot everyone!! Based on the suggestions, I've made reservations at APDC, DNA, Ferreira and Au Cinquieme Peche. Will try and go to one the bagel places, poutine, Schwartz's and JT.

                        A quick question for the locals, I usually use sites like Yelp to figure out Bars, Clubs, etc. in the U.S. For Montreal, yelp did not seem to have a lot of reviews. Is there a different site that I could use for that? It seems like Montreal is known for its beer places. Any recommendations?

                        Thanks!!

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                        Au Cinquieme Peche
                        4475 St-Denis, Montreal, QC H2J 2K8, CA

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                        1. re: indiefoodie

                          If you like beer then Dieu du Ciel is a place you must visit - some of the best beer I've ever had anywhere. My second favourite is L'Amère à Boire. Benelux is worth a stop if you happen to be walking by.

                          I just took a peak at Yelp and it seemed fairly extensive to me...around 60 bars reviewed...

                          Check out http://www.montrealmirror.com if you're looking for specific arts and entertainment listings for the period of your visit.

                          Also, IMHO, I'd turn the "will try" the bagels to "must try!" And, to see how tastes can vary so widely, personally I think St. Viateur is one of the prettiest streets in the city.

                          1. re: indiefoodie

                            for beer I personally like Bily Kun (354 ave du Mont-Royal est) cause it has good local beers and is no longer trendy with the after work yuppie shirt and tie crowd (thank god they've moved onto Plan B across the street). They're sister bar Cheval Blanc (809 rue Ontario est) brews on site IIRC and has more seasonal choices but becomes quite the student hang out on many nights.
                            I don't really like Dieu du ciel, although alot of other people do (I also find the crowd there annoying in general). I find their beers a bit gimmicky (had a smoked stout once that was undrinkable after 3 sips).
                            Vices & Versa (6631 St. Laurent Boulevard) is good for Quebecois beers. They usually have a selection of 30 or so microbeers from Quebec... I think they still have sample trays so you can figure out which ones you like cause depending on your taste they can be pretty hit or miss. They also have a great terrasse which is moot at this time of year.

                          2. Thanks a lot guys. With 2 days to go, any recommendations for dishes at APDC, DNA, Ferreira and Au Cinquieme Peche? Also, what are some good places for crepes (Cocktail hawaii?) and pastries?

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                            Au Cinquieme Peche
                            4475 St-Denis, Montreal, QC H2J 2K8, CA

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                            1. re: indiefoodie

                              For pastries I'd recommend the newly opened Pâtisserie Rhubarbe. It's already one of the best in the city. While in the neighbourhood, you can also try Le Fromentier for good bread.

                              The best desserts in town however can be found at a restaurant called Les 400 Coups. You will probably not find reviews as it opened only a month ago... but it's fantastic (and not only the desserts).

                            2. In terms of late night eats two great locations that haven't been mentioned are L'Express on St Denis, and Le Chien Fumant on De Lanaudiere.
                              Also, although you're not going to find much in the way of crepes and pastries there, Reservoir has an excellent brunch. I had a confited rabbit leg there that blew my mind

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                              L'Express Restaurant
                              3927 Rue Saint-Denis, Montreal, QC H2W2M4, CA