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TCallen Oct 25, 2010 06:07 PM

I would appreciate reco's for kosher restaurants in LA. The only one I know of is Milk & Honey. The food needs to be good and the place needs to be clean (one very popular sandwich place on Pico has good food but for whatever reason the tables/floors arent kept clean). Can be formal or not so formal.
Thanks.

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    paprkutr Oct 25, 2010 06:31 PM

    There was just a post in the last 2 weeks about this, you might want to look it up.

    1. weinstein5 Oct 26, 2010 04:41 AM

      Here is a link to the recent thread- http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7385...

      My favorites are Jeffs Kosher Sausage and Pat's

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        mamaleh Oct 26, 2010 11:12 AM

        I know to which restaurant you are referring, and I have no idea why they can't keep it clean either.

        In my opinion, your cleanest restaurant options in the Pico Robertson area are:
        Delice Bistro
        Pat's
        SushiKo
        Shanghai Diamond
        Nana
        Nagilla (usually)

        Further out:
        Bocca and Mocca
        Sassi
        Brami's
        Le Sushi
        Tierra Sur

        All others are hit or miss.

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          cheesecake17 Oct 26, 2010 12:12 PM

          Coffee Bean locations are usually kept pretty spotless as well. We went to one near UCLA and could not believe how immaculate the whole place was.

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            TCallen Oct 26, 2010 06:47 PM

            Thank you all.
            Is Tierra Sur the restaurant in the winery in Oxnard?
            If anyone is ever up the coast near Stanford there is a very good kosher restaurant in Mountain View, The Kitchen Table.

            After standing on line in the "sandwich place on Pico with good food" a number of times I think the reason it's not clean is a combo of staff not being vigilant and patrons who are self-centered and used to others waiting on them hand and foot. I was especially annoyed when an elderly couple came in looking to sit down (very few tables) and 2 teens who had already finished eating sat, never once thinking to offer their seats. So much for community consideration and respect for elders...

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              mamaleh Oct 26, 2010 09:04 PM

              Yes, Tierra Sur is the restaurant at the Herzog winery in Oxnard.

              I can't stand eating at the "sandwich place on Pico" despite some of the food being good. Besides the cleanliness factor, there is always a line for tables and nowhere to wait comfortably without hovering or being in the way of the wait staff. My husband loves the cabbage soup, so sometimes it is necessary to stop in to satisfy a craving. I usually just watch him eat.

              A friend who is a microbiologist for a public health agency once gave me great advice. If the areas of the restaurant that the customer can see (like the eating area and the restrooms) are not clean, you can be pretty sure that the areas that you can't see (like the kitchen) are equally not clean or worse. Always check out the restroom of a new restaurant first before you eat there.

              1. re: mamaleh
                weinstein5 Oct 26, 2010 11:00 PM

                For those of us not from LA - what restaurant is the "Sandwich Place on Pico" that has been referred to in this thread -or is that its name ?

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                  queenscook Oct 26, 2010 11:03 PM

                  I think people are very specifically avoiding mentioning the name . . . for loshon hara or legal (?) reasons.

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                    mamaleh Oct 26, 2010 11:35 PM

                    I don't usually like badmouthing kosher restaurants because I think the owners usually make pretty big financial sacrifices to stay afloat. Also, one man's treasure is another man's trash. The only time I consciously break the rule is if I feel that a person's health is seriously at stake or if the criticism would be taken constructively. Neither is the case in this situation. The place is just not cleaned well, and has never been cleaned well despite many complaints over many years. I don't think it is necessary to mention the name of the restaurant - it will be quite evident as soon as you walk through the door and look at the floor or you sit down and stick to the table or the booth. If you don't mind that level of dirt, you'll probably enjoy your meal.

                    1. re: mamaleh
                      weinstein5 Oct 27, 2010 10:19 AM

                      I agree Loshen Hora is bad news- but cleanliness of restaurant is rather important for those of who are from out of town planning our meals - there are ways of providing negative feedback without resorting to gossip especially if you are talking from personal experience

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                        mamaleh Oct 27, 2010 11:29 AM

                        Hmmm. I see your point. I'll run it by my Rav.

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                          mamaleh Oct 28, 2010 01:29 PM

                          My Rav says no go. I can answer you directly and in person but not post the name of the restaurant on the internet. His concern is that posting can cause irreversible damage to the restaurant long after the situation has been rectified. Sorry.

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                            weinstein5 Oct 28, 2010 02:01 PM

                            makes sense -

                            1. re: mamaleh
                              Arthur Oct 31, 2010 10:27 AM

                              If you have these concerns, mamaleh, you shouldn't have said anything in the first place. Instead of being forthright with your opinion, you've created a guessing game here, i.e., generating the worst kind of gossip/loshen hora by innuendo. It is entirely plausible that you have done irreversible damage to DIFFERENT restaurants than the one you meant.

                              For the record, it couldn't be more obvious that the "sandwich place on Pico" with booths and cabbage soup to which mamaleh is referring is Pico Deli. I've been going there regularly for at least 15 years, and the unbearably filthy environment she describes there has NOT been my experience at all.

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                                mamaleh Oct 31, 2010 10:01 PM

                                Ouch, but you are right. I should have held my tongue. Thank you for calling me on it.

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                  cheesecake17 Oct 27, 2010 08:22 AM

                  Tierra Sur is in the Herzog winery. Definitely worth the trip, in my opinion.

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                elmoz Oct 27, 2010 09:14 PM

                I think Delice Bistro has closed except for private events. The bakery/cafe remains open.

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                RalphCT Oct 27, 2010 02:59 PM

                I'll second Jeff's and Delice. I've had excellent meals at La Gondola on Wilshire.

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