Rivet or Rivetless Cookware - What's you fancy....
Love the notion of Riverless cookware. My Demeyre Atlantis is just fine...
Has a 8Qt Sitram handle break on me though.
Just curious what one is the norm for ya'll
Rivetless. I have one riveted all-clad 8" frypan, which I very rarely use. I *really* dislike rivets.
I've owned Lagostina (the classic stuff that was sold 20 years ago), Paderno (10+ years old) and a couple of Berndes non-stick frypans.
In those 20+ years, I've had one welded handle fail -- on the Lagostina steamer insert, which had been dropped one time too many.
also in the welded camp. rivets don't bother me as much in certain applications like stock pots, but for just about everything else it's welded. recently got a vollrath and update international fry and saute pan respectively, both handles welded and i couldn't be happier. my saucier i specifically made sure had welded handles, the last thing i wanted was the spoon catching on rivets to throw off my rhythm when making risotto.
one thing i never understood is stainless rivets in non-stick cookware.
I hate rivets but sometimes it comes down to a choice between Rivets/Comfortable Handle and Rivetless/Handle That I Don't Like. In that case the handle becomes the deciding factor and I put up with the rivets. I'm a major fusspot when it comes to my saucepan and skillet handles.
My cookware is a mix of Scanpan Steel (why oh why did they discontinue that line????!!!), 15-yr-old Scanpan, and believe it or not several pieces of good old 18/10 Farberware Classic. I much prefer stainless, in fact I won't use nonstick except for the Scanpans and to be honest I use those the least. None of them have rivets, although I like the Farberware saucepan handles the least of the three types, I have only 2 of those. The rest of the F-wares are stockpots of various sizes. The F-ware handles weren't deal-killers but I do like the Scanpan handles better.
The only riveted pan I bought is an 8" Belgique skillet (not the copper bottom) because I really liked the size, weight, and loved the handle. So I put up with the rivets on that one. I hate 99% of the handles on the popular brands (AllClad, Circulon, Cuisinart etc) of skillets and saucepans AND they all seem to have rivets as well. Phooey.
LOL. I LOVE rivets. The more the better. The 12-inch saucepan pictured here has 31 around the bottom, and had another three for the handle. That wasn't enough, so I had a helper handle added, so now there is a total of 38.
I have a very expensive set of skillets that are welded and have discovered the following:
1. The reason most high-end pans are riveted is because they are stronger.
2. The handles on the welded pans get hot quickly, even though the pans themselves (being multiple ply) require very low heat.
3. It is apparently not possible to have a strong welded handle. The handles on these pans are so cheap compared to the handles on my riveted pans that I've decided not to ever get anything that's welded again. I haven't dropped one yet or had one fail, but have been burned enough to not use them much.
My "set" is made up of All Clad, Marcus, Calphalon, and Sur La Table, all tri-ply, all with riveted handles, and all pretty stellar performers. A toothbrush and Bar Keeper's friend keeps everything clean.
Functionally, either should be satisfactory. Personally, I'm more of a plastic handle hatter. Unfortunately, all of our pots and pans, with the exception of cast iron, have plastic handles and are welded. The minimum age here is about 40 years, so the welds hold up well, but the plastic gets hot enough even on the stove top to dull and look shabby over time. Any of them that have made their way into the oven have had the handles replaced more than once.
My take is that welds can hold up well, and rivits shouldn't be a cleaning issue as pointed out above.
I'm just fine with rivets. I like their appearance, they don't get in my way, I don't find it difficult to clean around them, and I've never had a riveted handle fail on me (yet). That being said, I'm also very fond of my rivetless Sitram. Go figure.
RIvets. I have never had any trouble cleaning them and they are stronger. I have only had one welded handled failure as well but did have some that got a bit loose and rickety over time. All of my cookware is CI or riveted multi-ply and I would not ever again choose a rivetless pan
There's something to be said for riveted wings of airplanes remaining attached to it's fuselage flight after flight...
I know this is an old thread that has been resurrected, but I'll chime in. I don't trust welds, so give me rivets, If a weld breaks on a strainer, it's unfortunate, but if they break on a handle attached to a pan filled with very hot food, it could be a disaster. I've beard of rivets loosening, but I've never heard of them breaking catastrophically. The only way I'd pick rivet-less is if we are talking about a molded or cast unit like this:
Hi, Jeremy: "I know this is an old thread that has been resurrected..."
There are several old threads on this topic, some of which got downright nasty. There are those who dispute strength, and then there are those sani-kooks who can't brook riveted pans because they (allegedly) "can't be cleaned".
Welding thin SS is an advanced process fraught with potential problems. There have been serious injuries and resultant product safety recalls of welded pans. Like you, I can find no instances where a riveted handle failed catastrophically. But if things get loose, they can leak.
jljohn and kaleokahu
AMEN,give me rivets.
The nonsense about "clean" is just that,nonsense.The governing rule is we are cooking at TEMPERATURE.Looks around rivets is a different subject.If there is CRUD,learn how to clean it and or with what.Or better yet cook enough,long enough to prevent 99% of the crud.