74002 Wed Oct 05 13:58:04 -0700 2005 3 2 Los Angeles Area 0 406448 Okay, I'm trying to track down a restaurant, bar, or shop in the greater Los Angeles or Orange County area that stocks, lists, or serves: Smuttynose Pumpkin Ale or Dogfish Head Punkin' Ale So far I've either looked in, or called: Lucky Baldwins Father's Office Goat Hill Tavern Barney's Beanery Library Alehouse Naja's Place Yard House Galco's Wally's Liquors Wine Expo BevMo HiTime Whole Foods Vincente Market Gelson's and Bristol Farms All recollect having stocked Dogfish Head and Smuttynose products at some time in the past, but none have any on shelf presently. Any tips about where to turn? Wed Oct 05 13:58:04 -0700 2005 0 Homer 1 406453 Trader Joe's? Also Woodland Hills Wine and Spirits? Wed Oct 05 14:13:38 -0700 2005 406448 0 compumom 1 406460 Dogfish does not distribute in California. Their customer service suggests you go to Arizona if you really want the beer, as anything you find in California will be at least 3 years old and not good anymore. Wed Oct 05 14:54:28 -0700 2005 406448 0 WestsideLisa 1 406483 Try calling Hollingsheads. I understand they carry a wide variety of beers. Hollingsheads Delicatessen 368 South Main Street, Orange, CA 92868 (714) 978-9467 Wed Oct 05 16:06:34 -0700 2005 406448 0 ammoniasmith